kraftdinner
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:17:58 PM new
Do you think Prostitution should be legalized? Do you think it ever will be? 
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uaru
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:26:38 PM new
Kind of a ugly and demeaning way to make a living isn't it? I realize it happens all over the world throughout history but wouldn't legalizing it be viewed as a bit of an endorsement. Would anyone be proud if their daughter came home bragging she was her pimps #1 moneymaker?
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:29:09 PM new
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uaru
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:35:32 PM new
It's legal in Nevada..."Chicken Ranch" anyone?
I think it is legal in a few counties in Nevada, Clark County (Las Vegas) not being one of them. The Mustang Ranch would be the most famous, I believe they filed for bankrupcy sometime back and the original owners went to jail for some illegal activities. The Chicken Ranch of fame would be in Texas, during the depression Johns would pay in any means they could including live chickens, thus the name.
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:37:36 PM new
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uaru
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:40:55 PM new
At least that proves I've never been
Nonsense. That only proves you were clever enough to put up information that would look like you had never been. Takes more than that to fool some of us.
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zilvy
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:42:26 PM new
I thought he was talkin' take out!!!
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 29, 2001 03:54:02 PM new
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uaru
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posted on August 29, 2001 04:02:06 PM new
I asked my workmate just now after I posted and he said the chicken ranch was there too! Showz how much we both know...
Yes, there is a Chicken Ranch in Nevada but it got it's name because of the one in Texas. The one in Texas had a long history. The musical "Best Little Whorehouse in Texas" was based on the Chicken Ranch and some real events. I was in Texas when it came to a boil over the Chicken Ranch. A nutty reporter named Marvin Zinler is the guy that had it shut down. Many that live in Texas knows who Marvin Zinler, he's officially loony, but it brings in ratings.
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sadie999
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posted on August 29, 2001 04:02:47 PM new
I would like to see prostitution legalized primarily so that the people in that business could be regulated - taxes, health check-ups, etc.
I hope I don't get jumped on for this, but I really think that the reason for making prostitution illegal is that it's a hell of a way for a woman to make a lot of money fast and get some economic freedom. Back in da good old days economic freedom for women wasn't thought to be a good thing.
Most of the dreariness and demeaning nature of it now is that it's black market, so none of the women/men are protected by society, and neither are their customers. I don't really see anything demeaning in a straight up exchange of money for sex.
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 29, 2001 04:08:47 PM new
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bunnicula
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posted on August 29, 2001 04:31:14 PM new
It was a question that I had to think about--never have thought about it all that much.
I would have to say that I believe prostitution *should* be legalized. Because it sure as shooting isn't going to go away. Legalizing it could, as Sadie999 says, mean health checks & protections for the women. And mean that the crime surrounding it would be vastly reduced.
As for "will it ever be legalized"... It already has been in some countries, but I think that in the US it won't be for some time to come. Not with the rise of "moral majority" mentality we are currently experiencing.
About your reference to Conforte...well, since I know less than nothing about the Mustang Ranch, there was nothing for me to take you up on.
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jumpinjacko
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posted on August 29, 2001 05:02:38 PM new
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Femme
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posted on August 29, 2001 05:02:54 PM new
Not that I think it will ever happen beyond where it is legal now, but, if it would keep the women who choose this lifestyle safer, then I would be for legalization.
It would probably help to get rid of some of the scum (pimps) who live all of these women too.
The police could be put to better use instead of wasting their time rounding up the prostitues just to have them back on the street a short time later.
And, the men who pay for these services, for whatever reason, wouldn't have to be subjected to shame and humiliation as a result of a sting.
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spazmodeus
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posted on August 29, 2001 05:45:46 PM new
I would agree to legalized prostitution only if there were government standards to ensure that all prostitutes were as good- looking as the ones in movies and television dramas and that they all had hearts of gold.
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flynn
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posted on August 29, 2001 06:39:28 PM new
At the age of 33 I must be the oldest fuddy dud ever who walked the face of the earth.
Sex to me is meant to be enjoyed between a MARRIED man and woman. Period!
So, to answer your question, no I don't think it should be and I certainly hope it never is.
edited to actually answer the question.
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antiquary
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posted on August 29, 2001 06:43:52 PM new
...that they all had hearts of gold.
LOL, Spaz.
I think the gold is likely in another part of their anatomy.
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Meya
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posted on August 29, 2001 06:55:13 PM new
Legalizing immorality doesn't make it moral. It just makes it legal.
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Borillar
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posted on August 29, 2001 07:08:55 PM new
I am all for it. Too many women are forced into the life, or when they discover how nasty it can be, try to leave the life and can't until its too late. By making it legal, it would be the same as any other business with regular tax-paying employees.
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jamesoblivion
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posted on August 29, 2001 07:13:57 PM new
Borillar, the stigma isn't there because it's illegal.
But essentially I agree with everyone that legalizing (or decriminalizing) it for the purpose of aiding these women, most of whom are totally being exploited by pimps, is a good idea. In fact, I wonder why it's illegal in the first place.
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Femme
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posted on August 29, 2001 07:22:04 PM new
There's gold in them thar....hills? 
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snowyegret
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posted on August 29, 2001 07:43:10 PM new
Femme, LOL
I don't think it will happen in the US, at least during the Bush term, as the government would then be the main pimp.
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lswanson
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posted on August 30, 2001 09:07:14 AM new
It's legal in Britain and the working girls have to undergo regular health inspections. It does provide a higher level of safety for all involved. At least in practice.
As far as it putting the woman back in control and cutting out pimps, is their any factual data for that or is it an assumption on our part?
This is one of those issues that sounds good in theory but not actually be so pleasant put into practice. I'd like to hear some input from those who've seen legalized prostitution at work. After all, the legalized drug and free needle plan in the Netherlands sounded really good at first until all the addicts in Europe descended on Amsterdam.
Ultimately I don't foresee its widespread (oops) acceptance in the US anytime soon, if ever. Even though bordellos were a common part of our early history, and even though America and Britain were the frontline leaders of the sexual revolution of the 60s and 70s, at our core we're very prudish and ashamed to admit that human beings are sexual creatures.
While I can appreciate Flynn's take on the subject, it does not address the problem. Prostitution happens and we spends tons of money to restrict it that would be better spent in staving off far worse criminal activities.
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 30, 2001 09:26:58 AM new
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 30, 2001 09:47:37 AM new
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kraftdinner
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posted on August 30, 2001 10:31:45 AM new
The reason why I asked arttsupplies, is I notice that men are usually the ones against prostitution becoming legal, yet they are the ones that use this 'service'. Women tend to be for legalization to get rid of pimps and the unhealthy aspects of this lifestyle. I was just wondering why that is??
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toke
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posted on August 30, 2001 10:42:56 AM new
James...
In fact, I wonder why it's illegal in the first place.
Multiple choice:
a) It's a SIN.
b) Men prefer it free.
c) Creates employment - law enforcement, pimps, etc.
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gravid
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posted on August 30, 2001 11:06:52 AM new
I am 54 years old and as much a fuddy - duddy as flynn.
I have never bought the services of a prostitute and just can't imaigine such a casual attitude for such an intimate act.
Seeing what women will accept from a man to have a normal free relationship with them it should make you wonder what a person is like who can't have a normal relationship with a woman but has to pay for it.
I shudder to think the physically dirty, brain dead unsocialized sort of low class people that they have to deal with.
Can anyone pretend it is other than a desperate act? The antibodies that show the presence of a number of diseases don't show up for months. Meanwhile an infected person may expose hundreds to the disease.
The glamourous young hooker who jetsets about making a thousand bucks a night and enjoying the good life while piling up a big wad of money is such a bunch of TV fiction crap.
Instead the reality is a middle aged woman with one foot in the grave who looks stressed out and has all sorts of abuse habits to help her forget what she has to do for the pigs who do business with her. When she is too old and course looking to attract any trade she will probably end up working as a waitress or some other minimum wage with the health consequenses of her trade hanging over her head.
Like anything else if the government makes it legal they will tax it to death and the money that flows to police bribes and pimps will be spread to cover taxes and licensing.
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arttsupplies
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posted on August 30, 2001 11:23:37 AM new
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uaru
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posted on August 30, 2001 11:42:13 AM new
Maybe they should look at the legalized gambling that now exists in many states. Here in Biloxi it brought in a lot of business. Now there is a steady stream of stories about gamblers that can't stop. The casinos make money, the state makes a bit of money, and it isn't a crime. If some women want to have a job that reduces them to a biological function then maybe the states governments and corporations should cash in on these people. They could have state run whorehouses and advertise.
I've had more than a fair share of affairs (all before I was married.) I've never paid for sex unless you count dinner, dancing, and drinks as payment. For some reason licensing whores seems like a sad business, and for the state to get involved seems like a really sad business.
I don't believe it should be the highest priority in stopping crime, but I just can't see how legalizing it doesn't condone it to some degree.
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