toke
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:15:19 PM new
But, Femme...did I say you couldn't?
You seem to be speechifying just fine...
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mybiddness
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:16:55 PM new
Just because he happens to like blue m&m's doesn't mean he's bitching... geeeeez
Not paranoid anywhere else but here!
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:20:17 PM new
What I think DoctorBeetle was really trying to say was..............
had you all going for a second there, eh? 
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Femme
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:23:34 PM new
Darn, Toke,
I was trying to change to a more appropriate smiley before you saw my post.
LOL
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toke
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:24:13 PM new
kraft
There you go again...
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:26:58 PM new
What do you mean toke?
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:29:03 PM new
Could you maybe go derail somebody else's thread, please?
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toke
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:29:26 PM new
Interpreting other peoples posts...
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:35:19 PM new
toke, I was only kidding!!
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toke
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:37:34 PM new
Of course you were!
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kraftdinner
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:42:03 PM new
{{{{toke}}}}
spaz, if you meant me, I'm not trying to derail anything. I'm feeling kind of uneasy about the situation at hand and maybe saying things just for the cathartic value.
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hepburn
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:53:56 PM new
Well hell, if we gotta b!tch, may as well do it the best we can, eh? Cant say Im lacking in that department
Kraft
Shosh, yes, I do want to sit with you. And if I was where you are right now, I would go with you too. Sorry to hear you are going thru that, and no, you dont get flowers because you arent going anywhere for a long time. Instead, how about some M&M's?
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hepburn
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posted on September 13, 2001 03:58:58 PM new
Sorry Spaz.
I have just had it hit me, this whole thing. Guess I have been sorta numb. I couldve stumped my toe and burst into tears and it went off because I havent let loose. But what did it for me, of all things, was the changing of the guard in England...them playing our national anthem instead of their own. Opened up the faucets so to speak.
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hepburn
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posted on September 13, 2001 04:03:11 PM new
BTW mybidd, Im presuming that I can come out of my time out now? Shosh did. So I can. Right? Right
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Antiquary
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posted on September 13, 2001 04:47:29 PM new
Hi donny,
Thanks for that link. Hadn't checked the Times today but the editorial expressed very compellingly the concerns of so many of us.
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Shadowcat
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posted on September 13, 2001 05:10:33 PM new
Spaz: In a further derailing of your thread, I apologize for fluffing my tail at you yesterday. I don't know why I took your words so personally, but I did, and I'm sorry.
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 13, 2001 05:27:17 PM new
Don't worry, Shadowcat, no offense taken. But thanks.
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donny
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posted on September 13, 2001 08:02:42 PM new
Hi Antiquary, glad you found the linked article worth reading.
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 13, 2001 08:07:57 PM new
Time to get this thread back on track:
I'm watching CNN and they just showed footage of a somber-faced President Clinton down by the Armory in New York City today supporting the distraught people who are wandering around carrying pictures of their lost loved ones. He hugged them, he consoled them, he tried to give them hope. The footage was only two minutes long, but in that two minutes, IMHO, President Clinton seemed more in touch with what has really happened than the man sitting in the Oval Office today.
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shoshanah
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posted on September 13, 2001 08:19:34 PM new
Thank you for the great description, Spaz...Mr. Clinton was always capable of great empathy, a beautiful quality, I feel.
I missed it, but will make it a point to catch the late PBS News.
********
Gosh Shosh!
My "About Me" Page
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 13, 2001 08:28:02 PM new
Shosh,
They showed a couple of distraught women asking him, "Is there anything you can do to help me? Anything?" as they described their loved one and then they broke down sobbing against his chest. He just held them. His silence said so much more than any of the meaningless cliches coming out of Washington.
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hjw
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posted on September 13, 2001 08:51:02 PM new
Spaz,
Bill Clinton is a wonderful human being and we may not see another President like him in our lifetime. As you said, in those very brief news bits, he expressed so much sincerity, understanding and at the same time addressed the problem of Muslims living in our country who may be victims of angry Americans. What a great man!
Helen
Hi Shosh!
ed.sp.
[ edited by hjw on Sep 13, 2001 08:54 PM ]
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MAH645
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:02:06 PM new
I never liked Bill Clinton, but I do not see where he did anything that would have caused this tragedy.I doesn't seem like it could have been stopped no matter what either President did.We do need to be behind this President in all the decisions he makes and support our Country.I'm sure Bill Clinton will do all he can to help with this tragedy.
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hepburn
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:10:08 PM new
I didnt see Clinton, but I havent been watching tv either...at least not for the past few hours. Been reading. But I always liked him, so it doesnt surprise me he did that.
If I had a choice of presidents for right now, this minute, it would be Kennedy. Second to him would be Clinton.
Not to derail, but Im having a helluva time getting in to AW. Whats with the slow loading lately?
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hjw
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:20:18 PM new
This is a quote from the New York Times article provided earlier by Donny suggesting that Bush needs to be seen.
"The best way he can earn the country's confidence is by appearing frequently in public, and by not being afraid to answer questions. In the last two days, Mayor Rudolph Giuliani and Gov. George Pataki of New York have tirelessly made themselves available to an uneasy public that needed reassurance. Often it was enough to see them acknowledge that they did not know all the answers."
http://www.nytimes.com/2001/09/13/opinion/13THU1.html
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NearTheSea
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:25:18 PM new
I have seen him on TV, in press conferences
today a couple times.
I am not sure what people need? for him to be on every hour? every 2 hours? I'm sure he has to be doing other things, like in meetings on what is going to happen next.
He is going to be in NY tommorow, to be with the Mayor and Gov. there, after a prayer service in D.C.
[email protected]
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spazmodeus
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:27:29 PM new
Photo op.
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krs
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:32:53 PM new
Rumsfeld on Larry King. He's changing the tone for the administration, sounds like. Would hardly entertain a discussion of whether a concerted strike designed to kill the guy, as might be done by a small clandestine team, could work. Instead it sounded like he is paving the way for a long term encampment in Afganistan or a nieghboring country with the aim of eventual elimination of all threat. I hope that he was putting up a smokescreen to take attention from what is really being planned because
I didn't like the sound of it. Such a thing may never work but it would place a heavy drain on resources and become something akin to a perpetual money machine for defence contractors, very like the nearby situation in Saudi Arabia.
To kill a snake you cut off it's head. I don't know why that wasn't done with Saddam, and I don't think it would be impossible to locate this guy and take him out, not with bombs and missiles but with a few good men.
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hjw
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:34:15 PM new
Right! Spaz...photo op
Could he possibly learn something?
Helen
[ edited by hjw on Sep 13, 2001 09:35 PM ]
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NearTheSea
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posted on September 13, 2001 09:36:55 PM new
I don't think it was a 'photo op' and I don't know what you guys mean when you say that.
Anyway, do you really think he is going to announce to the media and world what exactly the U.S. is going to do?
[email protected]
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