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 REAMOND
 
posted on September 13, 2001 07:44:29 PM new
I never respected or trusted this guy. Now I have even less respect for him. Apparently because we do not worship god in the right way or enough, we are killed by terrorists.

If there is a Hell, Robertson has a seat reserved there for him. But I bet in private Robertson doesn't even believe in god, unless he could gain money and power from it.

I think what he is doing is no worse than selling WTC objects on eBay.

http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20010913_1881.html

If you want to call and let him know how you feel about this 1-800-759-0700
[ edited by REAMOND on Sep 13, 2001 07:55 PM ]
 
 sadie999
 
posted on September 13, 2001 07:59:07 PM new
He is an evil little puke, isn't he?

I've sometimes wondered if those floppy ears of his were cropped horns.


 
 snowyegret
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:15:57 PM new
In America, the right to blather idiotically is protected in our Bill of Rights.

 
 MrsSantaClaus
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:16:12 PM new
Maybe he and some of the others (who shall remain nameless here) are left holding some dried food from y2k that they need to sell ... and they finally found a way to hype it so they can make profits again.

A friend of mine spent $7000 on dried food for Y2K. It came from the same TV preacher who convinced them that the world would end then and we were all going to have a number branded onto our foreheads.

Of course, they were only selling the food to be helpful.

I found it amazing that by mid December they were selling tickets for a mid-summer 2001 trip to the Holy Land.

Wait ... how can you sell tickets if the world will end?

Hmmm ....
 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:19:56 PM new
Wait ... how can you sell tickets if the world will end?

Why would one need $7000 worth of dried food if the world was going to end? Were they planning on backpacking to wherever they thought they were going?
 
 DoctorBeetle
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:22:54 PM new
Wait ... how can you sell tickets if the world will end?

It would be pure profit, no chance that you would actually have to deliver on what you sold.

Dr. Beetle

Edited to add: You would have to spend those profits fairly fast with such an unnegotiable deadline approaching.
[ edited by DoctorBeetle on Sep 13, 2001 08:24 PM ]
 
 REAMOND
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:25:42 PM new
But don't you all feel just horrible and guilty that because you don't believe in Robertson's god that all these people died ?

I hope no one who lost a family member hears what he has said.

 
 amy
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:41:39 PM new
Hmmm...let me see if I have this right...

God has allowed the terrorists attacks because we have "insulted him" and don't worship him as we should. It is our "punishment"

The middle easteners (Palestinians, bin ladin, etc) feel they have GOD on their side. A number of terrorists who certainly SEEM to be middle eastern religious/political fanatics have just successfully struck us a serious blow.

God is punishing us for our lack of religious ferver...does that mean God is rewarding the "religious ferver" of the terrorists?

That seems the logical conclusion of Robertson's statement.

Pat Robertson...are you going to change the name of your TV station from Christian Broadcasting Network to Islamic Braodcasting Network? After all, God is obviously happy with them and unhappy with us since he punished us and rewarded them

 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:48:09 PM new
God has allowed the terrorists attacks because we have "insulted him" and don't worship him as we should.

I think he meant it more like this...

God has allowed the terrorists attacks because we have "insulted him" and don't worship him as Pat Robetrson thinks we should.

That seems the logical conclusion of Robertson's statement.

"Pat Robertson" and "logical" in the same sentence? Who'd have thought?
 
 amy
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:55:45 PM new
Ah, but MrPH, if Robertson is right, we have been worshipping the wrong god all along!!

In case it wasn't obvious...I was being very tongue in cheek

There is no logic to Mr Pat. He is a world class idiot!

 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on September 13, 2001 08:59:44 PM new
It was obvious.

He is a world class idiot!

Do you suppose it is a natural gift or the result of hard work?
 
 hjw
 
posted on September 13, 2001 09:02:40 PM new
Pat Robinson

What a vulture!

Preachers like Pat Robinson will be coming out of the woodwork with their collection plate in hand to take advantage of poor,emotionally scarred people during this tragedy.

As you suggested, Reamond, he believes only in money.

Helen

 
 uaru
 
posted on September 13, 2001 09:07:55 PM new
Pat Robertson is an idiot (apologies to other idiots). He's had brain damage for years.

 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on September 13, 2001 09:09:52 PM new
Preachers like Pat Robinson will be coming out of the woodwork with their collection plate in hand to take advantage of poor,emotionally scarred people during this tragedy.

IMO, there will be a special place in whatever passes for hell in one's belief system for anyone using this tragedy to further their own personal agenda.
 
 hepburn
 
posted on September 13, 2001 09:13:47 PM new
What is mindboggling is the followers that idiot has. People actually believe what he says. Go figure.

 
 tegan
 
posted on September 13, 2001 09:26:03 PM new
I have a theory that Bin Laden is Pat Robinson's illegitemate child... just a theory.

 
 REAMOND
 
posted on September 13, 2001 09:30:55 PM new
Bin Laden and his followers are really not far from Robertson and crew in the way they operate.

One thing I'll say for Robertson, at least he hasn't advocated murder.

Wait a minute..... didn't he say it was alright to kill doctors and bomb clinics that perform abortions ?

 
 outoftheblue
 
posted on September 13, 2001 11:32:42 PM new
Now we are seeing the really ugly side of quasi Christianity. All cheap talk and no substance.

 
 SupraMKIV
 
posted on September 14, 2001 12:11:16 AM new
REAMOND-"

Wait a minute..... didn't he say it was alright to kill doctors and bomb clinics that perform abortions ?" Shame on you.
Can you tell me when Robertson said that or even infered that?

uaru-That one post sounds like it came from a 2year old

 
 SaraAW
 
posted on September 14, 2001 12:22:09 AM new
Everyone,

Please remember to treat your fellow posters with respect.

Thank you,
Sara
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 AWrocks
 
posted on September 14, 2001 02:15:20 AM new
While I cannot (yet) find reference to him supporting the murder of those running abortion clinics, it appears that he has a "stand-off" attitude to the abortion of Chinese babies.

http://www.mcjonline.com/news/01a/20010418a.shtml

I presume Robertson just gets lumped in with the Christian Coalition zealots who oppose abortion (as killing) with more killing. A very Christian attitude.

Uh-huh.


[ edited by AWrocks on Sep 14, 2001 04:07 AM ]
 
 ddicffe
 
posted on September 14, 2001 02:28:29 AM new
Most of you know where I stand on the issue of religion in here. Christians that I know are giving blood, money, time and witnessing. Robertson is a guy that can not be trusted, and is no more then a fasle teacher of Christ. Most Christians believe this is just another birth pain in the comming of the end of the world:

Matthew 24:8
But all these things are the beginning of birth pains.

Mark 13:8
For nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places. There will be famines and troubles. These things are the beginning of birth pains.

1 Thessalonians 5:3
For when they are saying, "Peace and safety," then sudden destruction will come on them, like birth pains on a pregnant woman; and they will in no way escape.

This is how most of us feel: some just think we are further along then others.

I will previde the link later (I must go to work now), but I remember when Robertson and his 700 Club said that it was OK to wipe out abortion doctors. Thats wrong as well.

Rick


In the begining, God created the heavens and the earth.
 
 pharlap
 
posted on September 14, 2001 02:38:04 AM new
Being in Australia I'll admit that I've never heard of this 'Pat Robertson' creature. But I just have to say that the views he expresses in that article are absolutely disgusting. Especially at a time like this. Do some people have no compassion?

 
 gravid
 
posted on September 14, 2001 04:29:28 AM new
I like what Heinlein said that "God is on the side of those with the biggest battalions"

So I guess we should all convert to Islam since they won this round.

 
 figmente
 
posted on September 14, 2001 05:03:27 AM new
"Television evangelists Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, two of the most prominent voices of the religious right, said liberal civil liberties groups, feminists, homosexuals and abortion rights supporters bear partial responsibility for Tuesday's terrorist attacks because their actions have turned God's anger against America."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html



Televangelists are scum. These two echo Saddam Hussein's take on the matter.


 
 sadie999
 
posted on September 14, 2001 05:13:13 AM new
Maybe Pat's gone too far this time? Usually when I rant about him being Satan, my partner, a very devout Christian, just remains quiet.

When I read him Amy's post, he nodded in agreement, and had a look of disgust on his face (toward Pat, not Amy).

I'm not sure all televangelists are scum. I've listened to Joyce Meyer (sp?), and even from an atheist point of view, she has a lot to say. But Pat - ew - if you look in the dictionary under scum, his picture is there.


 
 hjw
 
posted on September 14, 2001 10:22:26 AM new
"What is objectionable, what is dangerous, about extremists is not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. The evil is not what they say about their cause, but what they say about their opponents."

Robert Kennedy



Now Jerry Falwell has joined Pat Robinson in the blame game. In a speech today to the 700 club he blames Americans... ACLU, schools, abortionists, feminists, gays, lesbians and non Christians for the terrorism.

What a miserable human being.

Helen

grammar ed.

[ edited by hjw on Sep 14, 2001 10:24 AM ]
 
 jt-2007
 
posted on September 14, 2001 10:30:21 AM new
I did not read the Pat Robertson thing nor do I watch him.

The Bible, however, illustrates the character of God. God has often removed protection from nations that forget about Him. God is not an evil God that goes around crushing humanity for pleasure, but I do believe he practices the concept that AA describes as "tough love" whereas he lets us fall on our face at times rather than always hold us up.

"I know your deeds, your hard work and your perseverance. I know that you cannot tolerate wicked men, that you have tested those who claim to be apostles but are not, and have found them false. You have persevered and have endured hardships for my name, and have not grown weary. Yet I hold this against you: You have forsaken your first love. Remember the height from which you have fallen! Repent and do the things you did at first. If you do not repent, I will come to you and remove your lampstand from its place. But you have this in your favor: You hate the practices of the Nicolaitans, which I also hate. He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit says to the churches. To him who overcomes, I will give the right to eat from the tree of life, which is in the paradise of God." Rev. 2

America as a nation of people has cast God aside and justifies corruption and evil. He will grow weary of our selfish disobedience.

T
[ edited by jt on Sep 14, 2001 10:35 AM ]
 
 Antiquary
 
posted on September 14, 2001 10:41:37 AM new
No more powerful argument could be made for the necessity of the separation of church and state than that contained in the apparent motives and specific agenda of religious fanatics such as Robertson, Falwell, and a number of others whose desire is to control public policy through their political activism. If their desire for wealth ended only in personal greed, they could be more easily dismissed; but the ability to deliver both money and votes can buy considerable influence in government.

 
 hjw
 
posted on September 14, 2001 11:10:17 AM new

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A28620-2001Sep14.html

I can't believe that anyone can accept this nonsense. It's beyond nonsense. It's cruel and inhuman.

Helen

 
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