Hepburn
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:24:42 PM new
Bin laden and the taliban have been doing a damn good job of killing off their own women and children, BEFORE we decided to drop some NON surprises on them. Least they had warning. Then again, they are probably using those same women and children as shields to protect their own sorry selves.
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:29:37 PM new
So true. And we should respect this Taliban? And 'negotiated' with them? HELL NO
Did they negotiate with the people killed in NY? NO
F*cking bomb the #*!@ out of them.
This makes my blood pressure rise too when people think this is wrong.
Just please remember : September 11, 2001
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Meya
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:30:35 PM new
On November 15, 1969, more than 250,000 gathered in DC to protest the Vietnam war.
Not even a close comparison.
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Hjw
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:33:48 PM new
jlsmith
The Rodriguez family felt that the war was being waged on their behalf and for the other families involved in the WTC tragedy. They felt guilty about the suffering caused by the war.
My point is that the was was not being waged on their behalf and therefore they had no reason to feel guilty.
Next question...What is the real motive of this war.
Is it retaliation?
Is it to find one major terrorist...bin Laden?
Is it to advance our political agenda in the mid east?
That is my interpretation of this thread.
Of course, I may be wrong. It may be just a discussion of two or three families and their perception of war.
Helen
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tiggressoflove
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:41:32 PM new
Me thinks that anti-war people never think war is justified and that a country should always turn the other cheek when they're being attacked.
My guess is that if we didn't fight back and the Taliban took over America and women have to wear those hoods all the time and lose what little freedom we have then that would be ok with them too. Either that or they'll be saying, "gee, I never thought that would happen."
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:41:49 PM new
Helen, the article was clearly meant to portray a picture of dissent (about the war) among those people most affected by the events of September 11 -- because *their* feelings would certainly hold more sway than those of anyone not directly impacted. That is called deceptive reporting, because the premise put forth -- that there is a "growing" number of them who feel this way -- was not at all borne out in the article. What we were given was an editorial, disguised as sympathy-generating news...
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Hjw
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:45:34 PM new
plsmith
That sounds like a very reasonable analysis of the article.
I was trying to make it worthy of discussion in some way. 
Helen
sp ed.
[ edited by Hjw on Oct 14, 2001 01:50 PM ]
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:47:04 PM new
It isn't...
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KatyD
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:49:08 PM new
Pl, Helen. It's PEElsmith. Sheesh. No wonder you're confused about what you're reading.
KatyD
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Hjw
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:53:59 PM new
KatyD
Why are you always so mean and sarcastic?
I've seen you make spelling errors.
Helen
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Meya
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:56:18 PM new
If you lean to far to the left, the "p" key is hard to reach.
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spazmodeus
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posted on October 14, 2001 01:57:44 PM new
I believe that when the second plane hit the WTC that the war hawks were thinking...Now we can get Iran.
See now, I would have guessed they were thinking Holy S-H-I-T!
[ edited by spazmodeus on Oct 14, 2001 01:58 PM ]
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Hjw
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:01:11 PM new
Spaz
That was an exaggeration... an obvious exaggeration and I'm sure that you recognized it as such.
Helen
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Hepburn
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:01:11 PM new
tigressoflove, yes, I agree with you. I wonder how many of those who are marching in protest would do the same if they were digging along with those firemen and pulling up parts of bodies...especially if one of those parts had a familiar watch on the wrist (for example). They would change their tune if it hit closer to home for themselves. What if terrorists hit Germany soon...and 6000 of their people are buried in rubble? THink some of those same people will be marching? I think not.
BTW..I would never live long under the taliban. Im too feisty and like my freedoms too much to grovel.
[ edited by Hepburn on Oct 14, 2001 02:02 PM ]
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KatyD
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:04:50 PM new
 @ Meya.
Helen, I'm not "mean and sarcastic". I'm sweetness and light. I'm also an excellent speller and rarely make mistakes.
Spaz. Howdja get that by the aw censor?
KatyD
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:07:41 PM new
LOL@Meya...
KatyD, I just might have to change my username -- I kinda like PEElsmith. Would give me license to be pissy...
Hepburn, go make us a fluff thread.
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Hepburn
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:08:29 PM new
katyd, yes, you are sweetness and light
Now let me put on my shades...the glare is killing my eyes
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Hepburn
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:09:50 PM new
PEElsmith, I dont do fluff anymore. Hep is my dark side, Remember? I havent for 7 months and I dont plan on doing it again anytime soon. YOU go start one
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jamesoblivion
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:10:25 PM new
What is the real motive of this war
What part of We the People of the United States, in Order to...insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America is so bloody difficult to understand?!
[ edited by jamesoblivion on Oct 14, 2001 02:11 PM ]
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Meya
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:10:55 PM new
Fluff thread on the way...
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Hepburn
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:12:26 PM new
Meya caught my old fluff
heh
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:12:57 PM new
"Hep is my dark side, Remember?"
I'll take that under advisement, heh...
Bless you, Meya!
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Hepburn
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:17:32 PM new
Back on topic...I dont understand what it is peace keepers expect us to do. We were minding out business, going to work, flying to visit relatives or vacation or whatever, and terrorists decided to steal our planes and kill our civilians. It was not a military hit, it was against innocent people. What is the REAL reason for this war? It is because we got sucker punched, thats why. And Americans dont take b!tchslapping very well.
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tiggressoflove
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:29:37 PM new
Hepburn,
I live by the vindictive #*!@ philosophy of "get even."
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uaru
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:37:20 PM new
I haven't seen any good arguments toward turning the other cheek. I will admit that this web page does make me think that diplomacy through peace could work, but only with cooperation from Bin Laden. We can only hope.
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tiggressoflove
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posted on October 14, 2001 02:39:26 PM new
Yes, I'm sure bin Laden will have a change of heart and become a peacemaker.
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gravid
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posted on October 14, 2001 03:00:18 PM new
Helen - I would suggest that you open a discussion of some sort with the terrorists to see what would appease them but being a woman they would never speak with you. Perhaps you have a male relative who could act for you?
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dman3
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posted on October 14, 2001 03:06:48 PM new
Actually Hjw's being women may not be as large a problem as you would think.
I have heard a few Reports on TV and other places in resent days that bin laden has brith defects and is actually only partly male and partly female.
He has the bat but no nards Truth I kid you not !!!!!!!
the only part of him that resembles a man is his beard which is the effect of takeing hormones..
http://www.Dman-N-Company.com
Email [email protected]
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plsmith
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posted on October 14, 2001 03:11:13 PM new
Congratulations, Dman, you win the award for utterly derailing this thread with drivel...
http://www.snopes.com/rumors/osama.htm
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Meya
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posted on October 14, 2001 03:12:21 PM new
Worst load of flutt I've ever seen. 20 lashes with a wet noodle for posting it.
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