rosiebud
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:26:42 PM new
[edited to take care of a posting problem I'm having today]
[ edited by rosiebud on Oct 25, 2001 04:27 PM ]
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RainyBear
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:27:31 PM new
spazmodeus - is my positive spin showing? 
I understand why the idea isn't palatable to many, but I'm looking at it from a business perspective. If I were in AW's shoes I'd probably do the same thing. The way I look at it CC verification is like an unloaded gun; it doesn't have a real bite but it may be intimidating enough to deter at least some of the bad guys.
And sure, I do want people to stick around, but if they don't I'll know where to find them. I'm just posting my honest feelings about it. I'm sure nobody listens to me anyway.
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pocono
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:31:14 PM new
I have a question Diana...
Will our usernames be protected if we do not give in to this horrible and unethical request for CC numbers?
I would like to be sure that no others post under our names, which each carry a reputation, be it good, OR bad.
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toke
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:32:46 PM new
My info shows I've been here since March 22, 1999. It was actually before that.
If AW doesn't know me by now, then when? It's a little late to be asking me for proof of my existence...and to what purpose, anyway?  Same old IP address guys.
[ edited by toke on Oct 25, 2001 04:33 PM ]
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Shadowcat
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:33:07 PM new
Come to think of it, what about those who don't have CCs? Surely I'm not the only one!
For the record: I think this decision sucks. Big time sucks.
But when has AW ever listened to us, the lowly board users?
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uaru
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:35:44 PM new
Having a CC on file that isn't charged isn't a big deal to me. I think it will make it difficult for those with multiple IDs sway argments against policies, companies, etc. via 'shill' posts.
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julesy
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:36:26 PM new
Ditto to what Pocono said.
I'd hate to see anyone sully my reputation as a meanie by being all nice and stuff...
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DianaAW
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:37:33 PM new
Hi pocono,
No other user will be able to register under your username should you decide to leave. We hope you will decide to stick around.
Diana
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RainyBear
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:37:59 PM new
Perhaps AW would consider "grandfathering" in established users, allowing them to continue posting without CC verification, upon their request, and by a certain deadline? Any new users (or those who hadn't requested being grandfathered in by the deadline) would require CC verification.
Any chance of that, AW?
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julesy
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:38:45 PM new
Dear Diana! --
I think you missed my question on the last page.
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toke
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:40:05 PM new
Are you leaving, Jules?
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pocono
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:40:24 PM new
Thank you Diana...
Julesy: No need to fear dear, that is IMPOSSIBLE! ...lol
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julesy
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:44:21 PM new
Pokey 
I dunno, Toke. Lately, I lurk way more than I post, though I'd hate not being able to jump in when inspired.
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DianaAW
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:45:15 PM new
Hi julesy,
Posters who have been banned from this message board will not be able to reactivate their accounts as the accounts have been permanently closed.
Diana
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pocono
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:45:38 PM new
toke: yes, back in 99' if you remember (i think bobmills was still moderator then) the system puked and everyone got their original "joined" date messed up, and some got a March 99', some got a Jan. 99', etc.
It also "cleared" our number of posts at that time.
They never DID fix that, but then again, I guess it wasn't worth the effort either.
.
[ edited by pocono on Oct 25, 2001 04:55 PM ]
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gravid
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:48:14 PM new
It is a very well established business method usually called good faith money.
Now I'm going to share this bag of money with you 'cause I know ya saw me find it here but I wnat you to go back in the bank there and get a couple thousand good faith money so I know I can trust you - and i will be sitting here counting your half out in this other bag here. OK?
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krs
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:53:48 PM new
Uh, that'd be BOBmills?
Spaz, can you possibly believe that your having been offended at a 'gut' level by this has sway considering the number of times that you've been 'deeply' offended in the past?
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joice
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:56:02 PM new
julesy,
Please choose a ficticious example for your question.
Thanks!
Joice
[email protected]
**or you could choose a ficticious name for your example, even.
[ edited by joice on Oct 25, 2001 04:57 PM ]
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julesy
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:56:46 PM new
LOLOLO!
ohmygoddess...you zapped my question!
[ edited by julesy on Oct 25, 2001 04:57 PM ]
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Meya
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:57:01 PM new
Will that change the answer?
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pocono
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:58:24 PM new
That wasn't ficticious? ...LMAO
Yea Julesy, stop beating around the bush and come out with it !
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Muriel
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posted on October 25, 2001 04:58:56 PM new
Breinhold: Sorry you had to come into this mess when you did. I'll definitely miss you.
I'll never be able to list everyone and everything that I love about this place. I just hope you'll all pull up a bar stool with Barry and the gang.
Here's something to remember me by: 
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julesy
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:01:38 PM new
OK, Joice, fair enough. I saw your post before you zapped the question and thought you were being coy.
For instance, bannedposterXY could not reactivate his old account, but could he activate a new id like bannedposterXX, as long as he put a cc on file?
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hepburn
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:03:07 PM new
This whole thread kinda reminds me of the good old days of the mod corner.
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toke
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:11:53 PM new
ROFL@666...
edited to say: The joint was never the same without my favorite devil...
[ edited by toke on Oct 25, 2001 05:14 PM ]
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Triggerfish
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:12:07 PM new
I agree with RB that AW should grandfather in the presently 'in good standing' members.
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twinsoft
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:13:33 PM new
???
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:19:56 PM new
With a CC on file, and an unmoderated board, does this mean, you could say things that were moderated before? Does putting a CC on file allow you to do all those things that were not within the community guidelines?
hmmm, do you take Discover?
[email protected]
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spazmodeus
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:37:31 PM new
I have no illusions that my posts have any sway here.
That said ...
I think the idea about grandfathering members in good standing would have been a fair and decent way to make this transition. Some of us have been here for years. Surely we have proven ourselves capable of "responsible posting" by now.
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Shadowcat
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posted on October 25, 2001 05:39:49 PM new
Since I haven't seen an answer to my question yet, I guess I'm gonna have to yell...
*waving paws in air*
Hey! Over here!
WHAT ABOUT THOSE WHO DON'T HAVE CC'S???
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