chococake
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posted on November 3, 2002 01:27:44 PM new
What excuse will Bush use not to be in Washington? No more running from state to state campaigning, and having an audience every day.
Any guesses?
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Helenjw
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posted on November 3, 2002 04:06:57 PM new
Well, he always has that kindergarten audience in Florida. Maybe he can read "Curious George Learns the Alphabet" this time or perhaps "Curious George and the Hot Air Balloon."
After than he can relax on the sofa with a very large pretzel.
Helen
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Borillar
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posted on November 3, 2002 06:02:20 PM new
Unfortunately, Bush will be very busy overseeing the new, sweeping changes to America, due to the Republican Sweep of the Senate. Once the Republicans have fully regained control of the entire government, their agenda will proceed like sh*t through a goose. This will come about because voters are so disillusioned about the voting process, that less than 30% of Americans are predicted to even place a vote. When it's low, it is not representative of the mainstream and that means wacko groups get to put their far-right wacko leadership into office. Along with that, there are already reports of massive voter fraud with absentee ballots being forged and stuffing the ballot boxes -- how else do Republicans win an election? And since it took Congress and the Executive Brach so damned long to pass a bill to update and to modernize elections and to prevent voting fraud, you'll see at least a few races end up in court. Remember, Bush doesn't have a chance in Hell of being re-appointed to the White House and he can't win an honest set of votes, so there is every urgency for the Republicans to cheat and to commit as much voter fraud as is possible to make Republicans win these elections.
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yellowstone
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posted on November 3, 2002 06:28:29 PM new
What exactly is wrong with Bush campaigning all around the country? Every single one of, at least, the past modern Presidents has done this.
At least Bush is in the USA, Pres. Clinton spent alot of his Preseidency traveling around the world. He was the most worldly travelled president of all time.
Borillar
Along with that, there are already reports of massive voter fraud with absentee ballots being forged and stuffing the ballot boxes -- how else do Republicans win an election?
Would you care to share with us all your sources of information on this. I haven't seen or read anything of the like.
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chococake
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posted on November 3, 2002 07:57:58 PM new
yellowstone, I don't remember any president doing this much campaigning as much as this one. He's been to several states three and four times.
Yes, indeed Clinton traveled around the world. Of course, he had already gotten this country back on track after Bush Sr. screwed it up. Also, Clinton had good relations with other countries, not everyone in world hated us like they do now. Clinton was respected by world leaders not like Bush who in the beginning was laughed at because he's so dumb. Now, they don't laugh, but call him a terrorist and warmonger. That jerk hadn't even left the United States until he was appointed president.
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Helenjw
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posted on November 3, 2002 08:19:48 PM new
yellowstone
If you go to Google Headlines and type in the search box, election fraud or absentee ballots you will find several pages of links to stories realted to election irregularities and fraud.
It's really a sad state of affairs when the FBI is involved in the election process already.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Nov 3, 2002 08:21 PM ]
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yellowstone
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posted on November 3, 2002 08:26:55 PM new
chococake
So you are saying then that there should be a limit on how much a current President should and can be able to campaign. I honestly don't get it, can you explain this to me?
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Helenjw
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posted on November 3, 2002 08:50:59 PM new
Well, I agree with Chococake. It just seems indecent right after politicizing the Iraq war vote and taking advantage of the election schedule leaving no time to consider domestic issues to then fly off to support his Republican buddies and his little brother.
It appears that he is more interested in the state of politics than he is about the problems facing this country right now.
[ edited by Helenjw on Nov 4, 2002 09:12 AM ]
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yellowstone
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posted on November 3, 2002 09:03:00 PM new
Hey, family allways sticks together. Don't you support your family in their endeavors, I do for mine.
Appearances can be deceiving but I am sure he is getting daily if not hourly updates from his people about the state of affairs. That being, for the sake of this discussion what is happening with Iraq and other problems facing this country right now.
ed. to clarify
[ edited by yellowstone on Nov 3, 2002 09:06 PM ]
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Helenjw
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posted on November 3, 2002 09:41:10 PM new
You are right, Yellowstone. What must I have been thinking? Of course he isn't really needed in Washington, DC. Crazy me, I keep thinking that we have a real President with real responsibilities - And when has he ever really cared about appearances either?
Helen
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yellowstone
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posted on November 3, 2002 09:52:43 PM new
Helenjw
Still playing your word games I see.
Play with this. What makes you think he has to be in Washington, DC in order to run the country and no you weren't thinking.
You keep thinking that we have a real President with real responsibilities boy that's a real hoot!
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chococake
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posted on November 3, 2002 10:20:46 PM new
Yellowstone, you mean you actually believe he is running the country? Maybe the gang in Washington decided if he is on the campaign trail it keeps him busy and out of their hair. Update him, what a joke!
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Helenjw
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posted on November 4, 2002 05:20:52 AM new
"Hey, family always sticks together.
Speaking of family allegiance, yellowstone, Jebb, the little baby brother needs a LOT of help.
http://members.tripod.com/~reno4governor/index-NEWSII.html
Then there is Neil....
O, Brother! Where Art Thou?
And George senior and all the others.
Gee, I thouhgt there was only one in every family.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Nov 4, 2002 05:28 AM ]
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yellowstone
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posted on November 4, 2002 09:01:55 AM new
So chococake this is how you answer a direct question from a fellow poster. You wait for someone like Helen to come and fight your battles, get it all heated up for you and then you ride in on her skirt tails with derisive and bs remarks that make no sense.
Are you Trying out for the position of Helens mini-me?
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chococake
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posted on November 4, 2002 09:41:48 AM new
Yellowstone, Helen and I have always agreed on who is running the government, and it isn't Bush baby. I'm so sorry I'm not here to respond to your posts immediately but I do have other things to do. Just happened that Helen got here before me. 
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mlecher
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posted on November 4, 2002 09:46:16 AM new
My question is...
Why is MY tax money going to pay for campaigning for a party and party philosophy that I despise? Air Force One costs ME money, his little appearances at these functions cost ME money. All for candidates that I DO NOT SUPPORT!!! For every candidate Bush campaigns for, the expenses should be calculated and a EXACT amount delivered to the OPPOSING CANDIDATES...
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I live in my own little world, but it is Okay...They know me here.
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yellowstone
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posted on November 4, 2002 10:06:34 AM new
chococake
And yet you still can't respond to my direct question. Instead you regurgitate more innuendo.
The reason mlecher is because you live in your own little world and you have no sense of fair play. I reiterate that, every single one of, at least, the past modern Presidents has done this.
Why is this supposed to be different with this President?
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Borillar
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posted on November 4, 2002 10:57:16 AM new
Actually, Mlecher, if I recall correctly, the private use of Air Force One is acceptable so long as the person using it pays the bills. It was, I think, back in the 1980's when Ronnie was stumping for the Repugs and the Demos tried to put a stop to the outrage. But bottom line is, is that Bush will have to reimburse the treasury for the use of the plane and everything else. If he doesn't, that could be interpreted as any number of criminal acts and he could be Impeached or even removed from office.
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Borillar
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posted on November 4, 2002 10:59:48 AM new
Yellowstone, I notice that you ask a lot of questions, but you don't provide much content yourself. Why is that? Afriad to give your own opinion or make an arguement for your beliefs? It's easier to attack others, isn't it, than to risk your own?
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:13:21 AM new
Hi yellowstone! I'm neither liberal or conservative... just so you know, but can you honestly say that you're better off since Bush became President? Can you think of anything he's done that's bettered the U.S.? A GOOD President would be trying to fix things and forego the limelight imo... especially now. The only thing he's taught me, is I should be investing in oil - that seems to be where all the money is and that's what really matters with this presidency.
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:30:15 AM new
Ya know what kraftdinner? I think you should worry more about your own country and the direction it's going. In fact, it would behoove you to worry more about who your next prime minister is going to be and quit worrying about who our president is.
Your constant harping on our president is annoying, being that you don't even live in America. Why don't you worry about Canada's problems instead? No doubt since you live there, you could actually do something about them.
edited to add...I mean this in a nice way of course....LoL!
KatyD
[ edited by KatyD on Nov 4, 2002 11:31 AM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:48:43 AM new
Sorry to annoy everyone Katy, but I was born American. I own property in South Carolina and Florida that I have to pay taxes on, so I feel I have the right to say what I want regarding the U.S. at any given time. I'd like to return before I croak but at this point, Canada looks better right now. Hope that helps explain things a bit.
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Borillar
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:49:27 AM new
Tsk, tsk - such flag waving in KD's face! Nice of you to drown her voice out in our First Amendment Right-driven Open, Public Message Board! I'll be that all Americans can be proud of that!
I agree with what KD said: I'm an Ultra Consrvative - a REAL Conservative, the kind that wants to protect this nation by protecting our United States Constitution. Not that silly-ass nonsense that they call Conservatism today that's more worried about the interests of the Rich and Powerful than about America and Americans in general.
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:51:08 AM new
Do you vote, kraftdinner? Why not?
KatyD
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:52:19 AM new
Are you a Canadian citizen, kraftdinner?
KatyD
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:53:01 AM new
Why do you live in Canada, kraftdinner? For the "free" medical care?
KatyD
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:54:52 AM new
Canada looks better to you, kraftdinner? So why don't you do something about Canada's problems. There are myriad. Why do you whine so much about U.S. problems if you don't care to live here or contribute?
KatyD
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 11:59:30 AM new
I'm an Ultra Consrvative - a REAL Conservative,
You're a nut. Homegrown, at least but still a nut.
I'm surprised that you would "agree" so much with kraftdinner, after your last thread lectures about the responsibilities and obligations of citizenship. Remember that? According to YOUR definitions, kraftdinner most certainly isn't fulfilling her citizenship obligations. Must be too much trouble for her. Canada is so much better right now. Bah!
KatyD
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2002 12:01:50 PM new
Thanks for your understanding Borillar.
I would probably question it too Katy if there was some American on a Canadian chat board making a bunch of comments about the Canadian government all the time, so I understand your point.
As far as voting, I can't vote here in Canada unless I want to give up my right to ever vote in the U.S., regardless of which country I'm living in. I guess it's one of the rules of dual citizenship. I don't want to loose this right, so I've never voted here.
And just so you know, I came to Canada when my parents divorced, not by choice.
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KatyD
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posted on November 4, 2002 12:06:06 PM new
You're old enough to come back, kraftdinner. Don't like our country? Don't agree with the way it's run or the direction it's going? THEN COME BACK AND WORK TO CHANGE IT! Don't sit there in Canada and b*tch and moan about all the things you don't like about the U.S. and who's running it. You don't have the right.
Election day is tomorrow. If you hurry, you can put your two cents in and maybe change some of the things you complain about. Otherwise, you have no say in our politics.
KatyD
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