posted on February 19, 2003 05:33:31 PM new"Republican presidential candidate Gary Bauer criticized Gov. George W. Bush for making fun of an executed Texas woman in an interview Bush gave to Talk magazine. "I think it is nothing short of unbelievable that the governor of a major state running for president thought it was acceptable to mock a woman he decided to put to death." Just before her execution date, Tucker appealed for clemency on the grounds that she had become a born-again Christian. Bush's reply: " `Please,' Bush whimpers, his lips pursed in mock desperation, `don't kill me,' " http://www.texecutions.com/
I don't think that I'll ever be able to say the name 'Bush' again without saying what a sickco bastrd that I think that he is. He shows Psychopathic traits in all that he does.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language: Fourth Edition. 2000. psychopath
SYLLABICATION: psy·cho·path PRONUNCIATION: sk-pth NOUN: A person with an antisocial personality disorder, manifested in aggressive, perverted, criminal, or amoral behavior without empathy or remorse.
Thanks rawbunzel for your efforts. I can find it now or point to it when I show this to other people. I know that many stauch supporters will be aghast.
posted on February 19, 2003 06:54:34 PM new
Borilla, on the snickering Governor,
Here's a couple excerpt from the poor departed Karla Faye Tucker Brown case.
," Tucker and Dean wrestled, and then Garrett intervened, hitting Dean over the head repeatedly with a hammer.
Tucker found and turned on the lights to see Dean lying face down on the mattress, his body "gurgling." Wanting to "stop him from making that noise," Tucker took a nearby pickax and hit him in the back with it four or five times
Tucker then discovered that someone was "underneath some covers laying up against the wall by the door." She swung the pickax and hit Deborah Thornton in the shoulder
I would have danced at this psychopaths execution. I hope the families of the murdered victims felt a little justice was done.
Execution isn't such a bad thing. Some people really deserve it. John Wayne Gacy, Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer and this piece of work to name a few.
How many of you pious liberals put your hands together in prayer for this poor soul? I didn't think so.
BTW I used your new word, psychopath in a sentence. Not new to me. I had several people call me that in my younger days. (where's that smiley face when you need it)
posted on February 19, 2003 07:15:31 PM new
Colin - while I agree with the death penalty (remember- I'm the screaming liberal that is a staunch supporter) and this case. However, I disagree with Bush making it into some kind of sick joke. This is he ultimate punishment sanctioned by the state he governed at the time and not appropriate fodder for giggle time.
posted on February 19, 2003 07:45:51 PM new
I don't believe in the death penalty for several reasons. It's excruciatingly barbaric to make jokes about it.
posted on February 19, 2003 09:47:31 PM new
>I would have danced at this psychopaths execution.
Then you should never be allowed in a position of public trust. Killing someone - anyone for any reason is a serious act and the State killing a citizen is the ultimate act of judicial authority levying punishment. It should never do so eagarly or with thoughtless care. So when a public official gets their jollies from a prisoner's plea for clemency before execution, that means that the public official is sick in the head, remoseless and uncaring, incapable of feeling for others in their plight, deserved or not, and a danger to everyone. Bush is that sort of person and I intend to pas this information around as much as possible to get people against him.
posted on February 20, 2003 04:50:57 AM new
"Killing someone - anyone for any reason is a serious act and the State killing a citizen is the ultimate act of judicial authority levying punishment. It should never do so eagarly or with thoughtless care."
I agree.
"So when a public official gets their jollies from a prisoner's plea for clemency before execution,"
That's your opinion.
"that means that the public official is sick in the head, remoseless and uncaring, incapable of feeling for others in their plight, deserved or not, and a danger to everyone"
Again Your opinion.
You take this BS essay from an Anti Death Penalty web site.
You take a quote from a magazine that no longer exists and probably only existed to bash Bush and promote a Liberal agenda. ( an educated guess on my part)
"We're sorry, but Talk magazine has suspended publication effective with the February 2002 issue."
From a man that was running against Bush for the presidential nomination. You take this as FACT?
Again the only word that comes to mind is Pompous.
What's your agenda? Do you just hate the man?
You can second guess his decisions all you want. Some may be mistakes other right on the mark. Who knows? You can disagree with him and dislike him.
This is the kind of thing you jump all over the Savage's and Limbaugh's for.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
posted on February 20, 2003 12:00:44 PM new
>This is the kind of thing you jump all over the Savage's and Limbaugh's for.
Realize that Savage and Limbaugh often make up their own facts and use outright, bald-faced lies. What I have to go on is a whole lot more crediable than those two, along with FoxNews, and the GOP combined.
posted on February 20, 2003 04:02:49 PM new
I don't know about Talk magazine. I SAW bush's sick comment(s) as it occurred on the television - I think it was "Meet the Press" and it was during the campaign.
The sick comment by bush happened; he was in an 'uncoached' status with no one nearby to keep his outbursts away from public view. That display was as clear an indication of a person's underlying perversity as I've ever seen or read of and I hold two undergraduate degrees in such study.
The awfulness of the convicted person's crime is irrelevent to this. He was the responsible official and was not sitting in some barroom making jokes about it with his drinking buddies.
Neither does it deny the characteristic of the person to attack the source of information about the fact. Who cares where someone finds reference to it? It happened before the entire viewing country on national television.
Keep in mind that this is a person who evidently liked to blow up cats with firecrackers when he was a kid. Alcoholism arrests emotional growth. It's likely that the person who killed those cats and made that comment has not come far from such perversion today.
posted on February 20, 2003 05:07:10 PM new
"person's underlying perversity,"
Get off your high horse. You must prance around in flowing white robes. Please let me know the next time the blood flows from the wounds in your hands and feet.
"and I hold two undergraduate degrees in such study."
Basket weaving and crafts are not undergrad degrees in my state. I'd say I was joking but I'm not sure.
Colin, you are a frivolous person.
1, bird-witted, dizzy, empty-headed, featherbrained, flighty, harebrained, rattlebrained, scatterbrained, silly
I'll admit I can be a little silly at times.
That okay by me as long as you don't think I'm a narrow minded, prude looking for acceptance.
And, good lord please don't let anyone think I really believe I'm the exalted ruler of computerdom or one of his/her servants. Beware of anyone that offers you a new pair of sneakers and asks you to wait for Hail Bob.
Amen,
You've hurt my feelings,
Reverend Colin
[ edited by colin on Feb 20, 2003 05:42 PM ]
posted on February 20, 2003 09:55:59 PM newIt's likely that the person who killed those cats and made that comment has not come far from such perversion today.
As they say, "That boy's not quite right in the head."
Falknerian really...the Snopes of West Texas.
I wonder if he thought Pulp Fiction was a documentary.
posted on February 21, 2003 01:11:07 AM new
If you think about all that has come to pass since he was appointed the Presidency in the light that Bush is a psychopath, it all makes much more sense.
First Bush foregoes any honor and actually accepts the Presidency under those conditions. He couldn't care less what other people thought about it.
Next he has used the White House soely for his own gain and those of his buddies.
He has failed to make use of diplomacy -- expected by a President, but has instead chosen to be an international bully.
He couldn't care less what happens to Americans here at home, so he isn't spending a moment worrying about the economy. He's set for life, so why should he care about the rest of us who aren't?
And so forth. Do you see what I mean? All of his actions and the courses that he has chosen all demostrate how sick he is and how dangerously psychopathic. He has to go, and soon! The American people have to demand that he step down from office and pressure the GOP to force him to resign for the good of the nation.
From ...When U.S. Foreign Policy Meets Biblical Phophecy
Academics do need to pay more attention to the role of religious belief in American public life, not only in the past, but also today. Without close attention to the prophetic scenario embraced by millions of American citizens, the current political climate in the United States cannot be fully understood.
Leaders have always invoked God's blessing on their wars, and, in this respect, the Bush administration is simply carrying on a familiar tradition. But when our born-again president describes the nation's foreign-policy objective in theological terms as a global struggle against "evildoers," and when, in his recent State of the Union address, he casts Saddam Hussein as a demonic, quasi-supernatural figure who could unleash "a day of horror like none we have ever known," he is not only playing upon our still-raw memories of 9/11. He is also invoking a powerful and ancient apocalyptic vocabulary that for millions of prophecy believers conveys a specific and thrilling message of an approaching end – not just of Saddam, but of human history as we know it.
Paul S. Boyer, a professor emeritus of history at the University of Wisconsin at Madison and currently a visiting professor of history at the College of William and Mary, is the author of "When Time Shall Be No More: Prophecy Belief in Modern American Culture" (Harvard University Press, 1992).
posted on February 21, 2003 09:27:49 PM new
Do you believe in the Revelations (Called the Apocaylpse in the Catholic Bible) and the prophecies that are in there?
You said Wow this is scary stuff.
If you do believe in the prophecies, then you do know that only God knows when and where these end times will happen. That a man cannot break any 'seals'. They just will be.
Amen, and God Bless America
Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
posted on February 21, 2003 09:53:29 PM new
Regardless whether I believe in the book of Revelations or not, Apocalypse or not, I DO believe that there are those that do believe in it.....and that they believe in it enough to try to bring it on thinking they are doing Gods will.
I'm just wishing that the Rapture would hurry up and happen and get those folks out of here so the rest of us can be left in peace.
Amen
The Most Reverend Bunz
KRS, I have never heard about Bush blowing up cats before....got link? I can't find it.
posted on February 21, 2003 10:00:41 PM new
Well shoot Nearthesea! Don't you know that's called picking and choosing what you believe out of the bible? LOL!!!
I knew that the "OK" was not directed at me. I snuck in on you.
Dang it...forgot this and had to edit:
AMEN
The Most Reverend Bunz
[ edited by rawbunzel on Feb 21, 2003 10:02 PM ]
posted on February 21, 2003 10:07:25 PM new
Well, there are those that believe in this rapture... but thats their belief... like those that can take Revelations and show what and where and how. I don't believe most of that. I don't think we'll know, it might be in our lifetime, but then every century since.. the people thought it was happening in their time.
BUT with that said... I do believe that most all countries on this earth can be identified in that book.... the one country that can't be? the U.S. And there is no way I could explain that, except that we either won't be here, or we will be a part of some other country.... like the United States of Europe or something..and this could be tommorow or 4000 years from now, no one knows.
Boy what nice thoughts for a friday night
Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
posted on February 21, 2003 10:13:03 PM new
Ah! But did we as humans create those countries BECAUSE they are in the book? Like Israel for instance? Created by humans because God gave the land to them . A lot of what has been done in the world has been done because of what people believe thier particular book [bible, koran etc] tells them should be there. So like the chicken and the egg...which came first?
posted on February 21, 2003 10:18:37 PM newLeaders have always invoked God's blessing on their wars, and, in this respect, the Bush administration is simply carrying on a familiar tradition. But when our born-again president describes the nation's foreign-policy objective in theological terms as a global struggle against "evildoers," and when, in his recent State of the Union address, he casts Saddam Hussein as a demonic, quasi-supernatural figure who could unleash "a day of horror like none we have ever known," he is not only playing upon our still-raw memories of 9/11. He is also invoking a powerful and ancient apocalyptic vocabulary that for millions of prophecy believers conveys a specific and thrilling message of an approaching end – not just of Saddam, but of human history as we know it.
They're ALL a bunch of nut cases! If God WANTED us to know what was going to happen, He would have spelled it out plainly! Trying to second-guess God is a bad thing: God has been known to change His Mind when people try to gleen prophsey out of the Bible (see end of millinium 1 for reference.) INstead of concentrating on Death, we ought to be concentrating on Life. What a waste of time it is with this government of ours.
posted on February 21, 2003 10:23:27 PM new
>Ah! But did we as humans create those countries BECAUSE they are in the book? Like Israel for instance? Created by humans because God gave the land to them .
I've been wondering that myself, rawbunzel. Did the idiots who pushed to make the ancient homeland of Isreal become anew because they were knowingly trying to invoke biblical prophesy? Why didn't someone just go purchase a large area of say, Ethiopia or the artic circle or someplace else where there wouldn't be any friction? Just thin what would it have been like if they HAD located them somewhere else than ancient Isreal? You could forget biblical prophesy then, couldn't you?
posted on February 21, 2003 10:29:02 PM new
NTS, are all the countries of S. America listed somewhere in the book? Brazil? Peru?Columbia?
Are any of the countries on the North American continent listed? Canada? Is Mexico listed somewhere?
What about Costa Rica? Indonesia? Australia? New Zealand?
I've never seen any of them in there.Does that mean that those parts of the world were unknown to man at the time, couldn't that be why some countries aren't in there?
Amen
The Most Reverend Bunz
forgot a word....it's getting late...what can I say?
[ edited by rawbunzel on Feb 21, 2003 10:33 PM ]
posted on February 21, 2003 10:32:01 PM new
Borillar, I have often thought that there are those among us, past and present , that would like nothing better than to bring about the Biblical prophesies.Israel is a very good example of that to my way of thinking.
posted on February 22, 2003 01:31:46 AM new
Bunz, sheesh! First you couldn't find that it was on Larry King live that he mocked the woman about to be executed and now this?
That about the cats was from an interview with some Texas schooldays friend of dumbya that was part of the preelection stuff that I posted two years ago. I didn't keep the link and don't know where it might be found now, or if it could be found. TSK, here I thought that at least you were paying attention (deep pout).
posted on February 22, 2003 03:11:39 AM new
It seems, whenever there's discord in the world or someone's life, a passage pertaining to it can be found in the book of Revelations.
If you check how many times zealots have pointed to someone and call them the Antichrist over the last 20 or so years, you'll be amazed.
How many have wrote their interruptions of this chapter of the bible in the last thousand years? I'm sure someone is doing so as I type.
I think the book of Revelations talks about the rise and fall of the Dot. Com's, Napster in particular.
posted on February 22, 2003 11:58:35 AM new
I watched one good historical program on the History Channel about the lives of the writers of the books of Revelations and it was a real eye-opener. NOw I am no expert on the subject, so don't quiz me and I didn't record the program, but what I do recall was that James (St. James?) was driven to an island in the Med where he wrote his book. He was referring to the Emporer of Rome when he wrote about "the Whore of Babylon", and the evidence for that was both factual and with good circumstancial evidence. In my opinion then, Revelations refers mainly to biblical days, not modern or future times.
In the meantime, we don't need a psychopathic President trying to bring about Arrmegeddon!
posted on February 22, 2003 04:39:31 PM new
KRS, You KNOW how I hang on your every word.I'll always be a floozie for you.Please don't pout. It really does not become you.
I must have missed the thread where you told about the cat incidents. I know I would remember that as I find animal cruelty to be one of the most perverse things a young person [or older] can do. It has been proven that people who do those things as youths quite often are psycopathic. Serial killers nearly always started out with animal torture. I wish I'd paid more attention when you put that info out here. Woe is me.I must have been ill... that is the only thing I can think of that would have kept me away from something you posted.
*****sigh*****
Maybe I didn't find where it talked about Larry Kings show and the "don't kill me" statement but at least I DID find reference to it. I like to think my Googling is improving.
posted on February 22, 2003 05:10:08 PM new
Yeah, I wish that I had been here as well. I would have screamed and shouted ten times worse than I ever have. That Bush is a real psychopath without compassion or remorse puts all Americans into real danger. As a poor citizen, Bush would be a serial killer. As the President of the United States of America, the most powerful political position that the world has ever known, the whole world is in danger!
Woe is me.I must have been ill... that is the only thing I can think of that would have kept me away from something you posted.