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 antiquary
 
posted on February 28, 2003 01:44:02 PM new

Bush's approach to fiscal responsibility is like watching comedy central, if you can just forget for a few minutes how harmful it is.

He's appointed an economist, to replace the sudden flight of Hubbard, whose reputation has been based upon repudiating exactly the type of economic package that he will be required to try to sell.

LOL!


A Salesman for Bush's Tax Plan Who Has Belittled Similar Ideas

By EDMUND L. ANDREWS


WASHINGTON, Feb. 27 — In nominating a respected Harvard economist as one of his top advisers, President Bush has now replaced nearly everyone from his original economic team with people who at one time spoke out against the kinds of policies Mr. Bush is prescribing.

N. Gregory Mankiw, whom Mr. Bush nominated on Wednesday to lead his Council of Economic Advisers, wrote a popular economics textbook in which he ridiculed the supply-side tax cuts of President Ronald Reagan as "fad economics" conceived by "charlatans and cranks."

http://www.nytimes.com/2003/02/28/business/28ECON.html



 
 Borillar
 
posted on February 28, 2003 03:10:46 PM new
Well, in his favor, at least he's gotten rid of all of the Yes Men. Now they won't favor his tax breaks or any other ridiculous Republican cockamaie schemes to destroy the economy. The question now is, will Bush do as they advise or will he go back to decimating our economny?



 
 antiquary
 
posted on February 28, 2003 05:52:02 PM new
I'm not sure what the strategy here is yet. He could be sabotaging his own economic plans without admiting it. Especially if he's had to negotiate with some of the dissenting groups within the party.

Or maybe he really is too confused to know what he's doing. Who would have thought Iraq could have been so badly handled.

 
 colin
 
posted on February 28, 2003 06:05:55 PM new
BILL CLINTON'S KNOWN LIES
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/RANCHO/POLITICS/LIES.html

Gore lies
http://www.nationalreview.com/gorelies/gorelies3.shtml

Carter lied:
http://www.lies.com/blog/archives/000500.html

I could have added Nixon, George Sr. and a host of others, but what's the point?
They all lie. It's part of the job discription,

Amen,
I'm 8 foot tall,
Reverend Colin

 
 antiquary
 
posted on February 28, 2003 06:34:22 PM new
Well, Colin, if the practice is so widely accepted as you believe, then documenting Bush's lies, should be a harmless pastime.

 
 colin
 
posted on February 28, 2003 06:41:31 PM new
Well, Colin, if the practice is so widely accepted as you believe, then documenting Bush's lies, should be a harmless pastime

I agree. If it makes you happy do it. It's harmless and you know what they say about an idle mind.

Amen,
It was't me officer!,
Reverend Colin

 
 antiquary
 
posted on February 28, 2003 06:43:24 PM new
Well, it does seem to bother you just a tiny bit, doesn't it.

 
 colin
 
posted on February 28, 2003 06:53:01 PM new
No, it really doesn't bother me at all.

I can see the warts on Bush as I could on Clinton and all the other leaders of our great nation, I've grown up with.

It's not a perfect world.

I'll stand behind the president on this Iraq thing. War or no war. I can understand what he's doing and why.

I've yet to met a perfect individual. I don't suspect I ever will. If I do I'll beat them to death with a golf club. You would have to read Kurt Vonnegut to understand that one.

Amen,
Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil:
Reverend Colin

 
 antiquary
 
posted on February 28, 2003 07:00:44 PM new
Well, that's nice to know.
It's always good to state how you feel.

 
 Borillar
 
posted on February 28, 2003 09:46:31 PM new
Come on now, Colin. You weren't in a coma the last four years of the Clinton Adminstration. You remember how all of the Republicans sang like little children on the playgound, "Cin-ton told a Lie-EYE! Cin-ton told a Lie-EYE! Cin-ton told a Lie-EYE!" Yes, that self-righteous smug behavior ~ especially when it came to elcting the President. "Oh, I only voted for Bush because I wanted someone MORAL in the White House - you know, someone who will put DIGNITY and HONESTY back there!," Republicans lied. Ah, yes! The High Road! Wasn't it soooo wonderful all of those years, wagging your finger at Clinton for telling a half-truth and saying just hom immoral that he was for it? Oh, yes you did! And now, now when the shoe is on the other foot, now its', "They all lie. It's part of the job discription"! Right!



 
 colin
 
posted on March 1, 2003 03:54:54 AM new
Borilla,
You disappoint me. If your not spouting your liberal agenda, quoting Conspiracy theories or calling everyone ignorant morons you take it upon yourself to be a mind reader.

I voted for Clinton. I still like the man. Never did call him names. Enjoyed his indiscretions with a chuckle. Stood behind him. He was the President of the United States of America.

Here's a site especially for you. Maybe it will keep you out of trouble for a while.
http://www.earthfiles.com/

It's about aliens and cover ups and on and on and on.

It seems you have one goal in life, to discredit, belittle or just make fun of the President.

Some of your posts have credibility, most are just you ranting.

You talk about others being narrow minded. You and a couple others are the ones that never admit when proven wrong.

Amen,
We live in changing times.
Reverend Colin

 
 antiquary
 
posted on March 1, 2003 10:23:21 AM new
This is also one of the reasons for our difficulty in securing allies..........

Tough Lessons for Afghan Leader in U.S.



By SONYA ROSS
Associated Press Writer

March 1, 2003, 12:31 PM EST


WASHINGTON -- By the time Afghan President Hamid Karzai finished his stroll down the corridors of American power last week, he had learned a few harsh lessons in the fickle ways of Washington.

Karzai got the red-carpet treatment and had lunch with President Bush. But he also got a stern lecture from senators about the hazards of sugarcoating the problems of his devastated land -- criticism that seemed to offend him.

He was the toast of Washington a year ago. Now reality is setting in, as the West's attention turns elsewhere and Karzai must cope with a country struggling to reconcile its past and build a future.

Karzai spent a good deal of time pressing U.S. officials not to let the war being fought on his territory now become eclipsed by one not yet under way. He saw that no matter how good the Bush administration's promises sounded, Afghanistan is destined to fade if the United States takes on Iraq.

"Afghanistan has been destroyed, completely, devastated almost to ground zero. A lot more needs to be done in order to enable us to stand on our own feet," Karzai said. "And a lot more needs to be done for a consistent period of time, in a systematic, sustained way.

...................

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationworld/wire/sns-ap-karzais-woes0301mar01,0,5974385.story?coll=sns%2Dap%2Dnationworld%2Dheadlines

 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 1, 2003 04:22:40 PM new
If there is any Muslim country that we ought to ingratiate ourselves with, it would have to be Afghanistan, in my opinion. Afghanistan, the Crossroads to The World, lies strategically not just for Oil pipelines, but has high military value, considering how hostile the world is. It also had a pro-Western government before the communists took over by force and the Taliban by force after that. Control Afghanistan and you control that region of the world.

Karzai has a difficult job. A Western puppet, in my opinion, he is barely able to hold onto the main city of Kabul. The rest are fiefdoms of despot warlords who may or may not harbor the Taliban. Our job is certainly unfinished there.

While many places in the world need all of our help and assistance, when you chalk up every asset that Afghanistan has to offer us - as sure and cretin a foothold in that part of the world as Israel is in the middle east and Japan is in the northern Pacific. We'd be very sorry indeed not to make a strong investment in the rebuilding of Afghanistan and to NOT take its people for granted!

What I suggest is a policy shift. If we can prove to the Afghani people that we are there for them, not for the Oil pipeline, that we are their True friend in need, not just dumping surplus cheese on them, then we will have as strong an ally as any that we could ever wish for - ones willing to die for us to protect us and our interests there. Seriously.




 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 1, 2003 04:37:07 PM new
>Some of your posts have credibility, most are just you ranting.

You are a shrewd observer, Colin, and I mean that sincerely. My posts are always thought out in advance and the content as it comes across is usually calculated. I do it for a number of reasons, mostly to get a response. And if you can't rant on here, then where can you?

>You talk about others being narrow-minded. You and a couple others are the ones that never admit when proven wrong.

Not so, Colin. When someone shows me the facts or reasoning or logic and it is reliable enough, I always admit when I'm wrong. Sometimes, a post does not come across as intended for any number of errors. I am and have always been extremely dyslexic and even if a word looks correctly spelled to me, it may not be, even though I really do know the spelling just fine. The post above I really did not mean to twist what Republicans did to Clinton and attach it to you -- it came out that way unintentionally. Yet, as often as I have corrected others, you'd think that any one of them would drop in and say, "Borillar! You are So right and I was SO wrong. Sorry!" I get that one time in twenty and I give it out at least as rare as that.

As far as the quality of the posts that I make, let me replay some things for those that missed it:

+ I am not an Entertainer - I am not here to Entertain you! I am here to Entertain MYSELF! If you don't like the quality of my posts, realize that I'm not being paid for any of this and you can't expect to be floored with every post of mine. In fact, I make screwed up posts on purpose to push this very point. Take it as you find it.

+ IF I am giving out my OPINION, I sometimes will not prove what I have said. To demand proof of my opinions is to demand that EVERYONE provide Proof of their opinions! If everyone else is not required to do it, I won't be either. Sorry if that makes you run out and say, ["Boy, that Bor -- what a Load of @#@#%!" Fine with me.

+ I am not here to educate you or to try to change your mind in any way whatsoever. It's a lost cause, so I don't bother to try. I am here to be with those who think like me, share information that we find interesting, and to rally the troops. Sorry if I don't engage you in arguments or debates or attempt to correct where you are wrong.

+ My other purpose is to discover where what I believe to be true is false. I believe in myself and what I think is right. However, I also am an adult enough to realize that I can be wrong (ohhh -- so VERY often in my life!) Therefore, when I receive REAL FACTS, Intelligent Reasoning, or Solid Logic -- Demagoguery, I HAVE and I DO Change my mind and my stance. My desire is to be CORRECT.

Does this help you, anyone? Not just Colin?


See what I mean? Dyslexic to the MAX!
[ edited by Borillar on Mar 1, 2003 04:39 PM ]
 
 Borillar
 
posted on March 1, 2003 05:15:08 PM new
>You disappoint me. If your not spouting your liberal agenda,

I'm *ASHAMED* of you, Colin! For someone your age to have the opinions that you hold and hold the attitude that you do is inexcusable!

This remark of yours stems from the FACT that you refuse to learn where your ideological labels really apply. If you would educate yourself, you'd stop insulting everyone on here and you might get a bit more respect from people. As it is, you reveal in being stupid. Being uneducated is only ignorance and that can be cured with education. But to KNOW that you are ignorant AND you refuse to educate yourself, that is just plain stupidity!

As a primer, I am only going to give you this just ONCE! It is NOT my job to teach you anything!

A nation is NOT defined by lines drawn upon a map or a piece of dyed cloth waving in the breeze. Its PEOPLE define Nations. "Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just Powers from the Consent of the Governed" which means that the PEOPLE are the Nation and that the government exists to ensure that their RIGHTS are maintained!

Therefore, when REAL Conservatives preserve and defend the United States Constitution, they recognize that it is being done for the PEOPLE, not for the government or for Corporations! To put PEOPLE FIRST is the RIGHT THING TO DO. We elect our REPRESENTATIVES to government to act in OUR behalf, not in their own or in Special Interests. When given a Choice between the Best Interests of the American People, a duly elected representative is REQUIRED to ALWAYS -- not sometimes, ALWAYS vote in Favor of the PEOPLE!

Damn it, Colin! Why don't you just take some time to educate yourself on the Constitution and the principles that lay behind our country? That you'd rather stick to your stupid definitions of labels and tht you have the NERVE to complain when others don't match YOUR ignorant interpretations is stupidity of the highest order!

'nuff said!


 
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