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 Helenjw
 
posted on April 10, 2003 05:45:13 PM new

TheLoneHaranguer states,

"The distinguished psychologist Robin Dawes (1994) recently surveyed the empirical evidence concerning the effectiveness of psychotherapy. He determined that therapy does help people,"
See helenjw, there's still time for you to get help. Even your own article says so. Maybe then you can see the need to put others down is just a manifestation of your lack of adequate upbringing & the inferiority you feel to most well educated people.




I'm in awe of your obvious erudition, LoneHaranguer. Your good humor, combined with your exceedingly thoughtful and informative posts will leave us all with a warm and cozy feeling and make our visit to the RoundTable an extraordinary experience!

Helen





[ edited by Helenjw on Apr 10, 2003 05:50 PM ]
 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on April 10, 2003 06:32:30 PM new
Awww Helen you flirting again...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 10, 2003 06:35:42 PM new

Naa..LOL! It's called something else. HaHaHa

Helen

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 10, 2003 09:24:24 PM new
Yes you were flirting, we all caught you, hittin on the first new guy to come in here




Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 11, 2003 01:16:12 PM new

NearTheSea,

I've been busy lately and missed your comment above. I just want to let you know that what seemed like "flirting" to you, was really a left handed compliment (a remark that seems to say something pleasant about a person (which is obviously untrue) and is intended as an insult.

If you read the new guy's comments to me, made without any provocation. on the previous page, you will see why I responded as I did.



Helen



 
 colin
 
posted on April 11, 2003 07:06:22 PM new
Helen,
Your so witty.

amen,
Reverend colin

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 11, 2003 07:58:46 PM new

colin,
You're so endearingly delightful.

Helen

 
 hibbertst
 
posted on April 11, 2003 08:12:46 PM new
"Someday, just as we did with post-World War II Germany and Japan, you'll be able to add "WE LEFT": ferncrestmotel

US MILITARY BASES IN GERMANY 2003

ETEP AAF Armstrong Army Heliport
EOD AAF Coleman
ETEU AAF Giebelstadt
ETIC AAF Grafenwoehr
ETID AAF Hanau
(Fliegerhorst Kaserne)
ETEE AAF Heidelberg
(Patton Barracks)
ETIH AAF Hohenfels (CMTC)
ETEB AAF Katterbach Barracks
ETIK AAF Storck Barracks
EDDS AAF Stuttgart
WIE AAF Wiesbaden
EDFS AHP Schweinfurt
(Conn Barracks)
FRF AB Rhein-Main
GKE AB Geilenkirchen
(NATO Base)
RMS AB Ramstein
SEX AB Sembach
SPM AB Spangdahlem
ESH AS Einsiedlerhof
..................................

US MILITARY BASES IN JAPAN 2003

Last Updates
Camp Butler
Camp Zama
Kadena AB
Misawa AB
MCAS Iwakuni
NAF Atsugi
Sasebo
Torii Station
Yokosuka
Yokota
 
 colin
 
posted on April 12, 2003 03:16:36 AM new
hibbertst,
And your point is?

I'm hoping against all odds we have a Huge base or three in Iraq.

It would be a calming effect on the troubles of the Middle East.

On the other hand,
Now that these people will have a Democracy, I'll trying the get the Baghdad Harley Davidson franchise.

Iraq will be a very rich country and as a Capitalist I want to help these people spend that money on the important things of life, Motorcycle's and are you ready? BEER, I may have to do some palm greasing with the local Moolah's but what ever it takes.

Here's a link for our anti-capitalist, This should make them see red:
"Halliburton gets $7-B contract in Iraq oil well fires"
[url]http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/abs_news_body.asp?section=Business&oid=20497[/ur]

I was thinking one of those Palaces would make a hell of a Harley Dealership. Could be the biggest in the world. Have a nice night club on one site. Rooms available too.

Capitalism is great. Socialism is moronic and as 12 says "AIN'T LIFE GRAND"

Amen,
"Free at last, free at last",
Reverend Colin

 
 hibbertst
 
posted on April 12, 2003 07:02:56 AM new
"Free at last, free at last":
Colin

WASHINGTON, April 10 (UPI) -- The Pentagon late Wednesday identified six more deaths associated with the war in Iraq.

Staff Sgt. Robert A Stever, 36, of Pendleton, Ore., was killed in action by enemy fire April 8. He was assigned the Headquarters Company, 3rd Battalion, 15th Infantry Regiment, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Pfc. Jason M. Meyer, 23, of Swartz Creek, Mich., was killed in action on April 8 in Iraq. Meyer was assigned to B Company, 11th Engineer Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga. The circumstances surrounding his death are under investigation.

Pvt. Kelley S. Prewitt, 24, of Alabama, was killed in action by enemy fire on April 6. Prewitt was assigned to Headquarters Company, 2nd Battalion, 69th Armor Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.

Two Army soldiers died of wounds received in an enemy rocket attack south of Baghdad April 7.

Spc. George A. Mitchell, 35, of Rawlings, Md., was assigned to Headquarters Company, 3rd Infantry Division, 2nd Brigade Combat Team, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Cpl. Henry L. Brown, 22, of Natchez, Miss., died April 8. He was assigned to Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 64th Field Artillery Regiment, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Air Force Staff Sgt. Scott D. Sather, 29, of Clio, Mich., was killed in action April 8. Sather was assigned to the 24th Special Tactics Squadron, Pope Air Force Base, N.C.

Also Wednesday, the Pentagon released the identity of another Marine killed and one declared missing-in-action in the U.S.-led war on Iraq.

Pfc. Juan Guadalupe Garza Jr., 20, of Temperance, Mich., was killed in action on April 8 in central Iraq. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Sgt. Brendon C. Reiss, 23, of Natrona, Wyo., has been listed as missing in action. He is assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade. Reiss was last seen when his unit was engaged in combat operations on March 23 in the vicinity of An Nasiriyah, Iraq. A search of the area is continuing.

The Pentagon said Thursday 105 American service members have died in the war, at least 15 of them from non-hostile actions like accidents. Not all of the families of the dead have been notified so some names have yet to be released.

Eight remain missing in action and seven are still considered prisoners of war.

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Previously announced deaths:

Navy Lt. Thomas Mullen Adams, 27, of La Mesa, Calif., was killed when two Royal Navy Sea King helicopters collided over international waters March 22.

Capt. James F. Adamouski, 29, of Springfield, Va., was killed when his UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in central Iraq April 2. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.

Spc. Jamaal R. Addison, 22, of Roswell, Ga. He was killed in an ambush of the 507th maintenance company on March 23.

Capt. Tristan N. Aitken, 31, of State College, Pa., was killed in action Friday in Iraq. Aitken was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 41st Field Artillery, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Lance Cpl. Brian E. Anderson, 26, of Durham, N.C., was killed April 2 in a non-hostile accident west of An Nasiriyah, Iraq. Anderson was manning a .50 caliber rifle on top of a 7-ton truck when the vehicle passed under and apparently snagged low-hanging power lines.

Maj. Jay Thomas Aubin, 36, of Waterville, Maine. Aubin was assigned to the Marine Aviation Weapons and Tactics Squadron 1, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, Marine Corps Air Station Yuma, Ariz. Aubin died in a CH-46E helicopter crash on March 20 in Kuwait.

Pfc. Chad E. Bales, 20, of Coahoma, Texas, was killed on April 3 in a non-hostile vehicle accident during convoy operations east of Ash Shahin, Iraq. He was assigned to 1st Transportation Support Battalion, 1st Force Service Support Group, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Capt. Ryan Anthony Beaupre, 30, of Bloomington, Ill., who was assigned to the Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 268, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton, Calif. Beaupre died in a CH-46E helicopter crash on March 20 in Kuwait.

Pfc. Wilfred D. Bellard, 20, of Lake Charles, La., died when his vehicle fell into a ravine April 4. He was a member of the 41st Artillery Regiment, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Sgt. Michael E. Bitz, 31, Ventura, Calif. He was assigned to the 2nd Assault Amphibious Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, N.C. He was killed in action March 23 near An Nasiriyah, Iraq.

Lance Cpl. Thomas A. Blair, 24, of Wagoner, Okla. He was assigned to the 2nd Low Altitude Air Defense Battalion, Marine Air Control Group-28, 2nd Marine Aircraft Wing, Cherry Point, N.C. His unit was engaged in operations on March 24 on the outskirts of An Nasiriyah in Iraq. His remains were recovered on March 28.

Spc. Mathew G. Boule, 22, of Dracut, Mass., was killed when his UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in central Iraq April 2. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.

Spc. Larry K. Brown, 22, of Jackson, Miss., was killed in action on April 5, 2003, in Iraq. Brown was assigned to C Company, 1st Battalion, 41st Infantry Regiment, Fort Riley, Kan.

Lance Cpl. Brian Rory Buesing, 20, Cedar Key, Fla. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Sgt. George E. Buggs, 31, of Barnwell, S.C., was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. Buggs was with the 3rd Division Support Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga., the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Sgt. Jacob L. Butler, 24, of Wellsville, Kan., was killed in action April 1, in As Samawah, Iraq, when a rocket-propelled grenade hit his vehicle. Butler was assigned to Headquarters Company, 1st Battalion, 41st Infantry Regiment, Fort Riley, Kan.

Staff Sgt. James W. Cawley, 41, of Roy, Utah, was killed on March 29 during a firefight with enemy forces. He was hit by a U.S. humvee. He was assigned to F Company, 2nd Battalion, 23rd Marine Regiment, 4th Marine Division, in Salt Lake City, Utah.

2nd Lt. Therrel S. Childers, 30, Harrison County, Miss., killed in action on March 21 in a firefight in the oil field in southern Iraq. Childers was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 5th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Marine Capt. Aaron J. Contreras, 31, of Sherwood, Ore., was killed on March 30 in a UH-1N Huey helicopter crash in southern Iraq. He was assigned to Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron-169, Marine Aircraft Group-39, Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Spc. Daniel Francis J. Cunningham, 33, Lewiston, Maine, died when his vehicle fell into a ravine April 4. He was a member of the 41st Artillery Regiment, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Spc. Michael Edward Curtin, 23, of South Plains, N.J. He was assigned to the 2-7th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga. Curtin was killed at a checkpoint by a car bomb on March 29.

Staff Sgt Wilbert Davis, 40, of Alaska, died April 3 when his vehicle ran off the road into a canal in Iraq. Davis was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 69th Armor, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Lance Cpl. Jesus A. Suarez Del Solar, 20, of Escondido, Calif. He was assigned to the 1st Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Camp Pendleton, Calif. He was killed when a car bomb exploded at a checkpoint near An Najaf March 29.

Master Sgt. Robert J. Dowdy, 38, of Cleveland, Ohio. Dowdy was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. He was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Pvt. Ruben Estrella-Soto, 18, of El Paso, Texas. Estrella-Soto was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. He was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Cpl. Mark A. Evnin, 21, Burlington, Vt., was killed in action April 3 during a firefight in central Iraq. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 4th Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

Master Sgt. George A. Fernandez, 36, El Paso, Texas, was killed in action April 2. He was assigned to Headquarters, U.S. Army Special Operations Command, Fort Bragg, N.C.

Lance Cpl. David K. Fribley, 26, Lee, Fla. He was one of nine Marines killed when a group of Iraqis pretended to surrender but then opened fire on Marines near An Nasiriyah. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Cpl. Jose A. Garibay, 21, Orange, Calif. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. He was killed on March 23 in An Nasiriyah firefight.

Cpl. Jorge A. Gonzalez, 20, Los Angeles. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. He was one of nine Marines killed March 23 near An Nasiriyah when Iraqi troops faked surrender but then opened fire on the Americans.

Cpl. Bernard G. Gooden, 22, of Mt. Vernon, N.Y., was killed April 4 during a firefight in central Iraq. He was assigned to the 2nd Tank Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, based at Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Pfc. Christian D. Gurtner, 19, of Ohio City, Ohio, died April 2 from a non-combat weapons discharge in southern Iraq. He was assigned to the 3rd Light Armored Reconnaissance Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

Lance Cpl. Jose Gutierrez, 22, Los Angeles, killed in action March 21 in southern Iraq. Gutierrez was assigned to the 2nd Battalion, 1st Marine Regiment, 1st Marine Division, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Chief Warrant Officer Erik A. Halvorsen, 40, of Bennington, Vt., was killed when his UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in central Iraq April 2. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.

Sgt. Nicolas M. Hodson, 22, of Smithville, Mo., who died in a vehicle accident in Iraq. Hodson was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Chief Warrant Officer Scott Jamar, 32, of Granbury, Texas. He was killed when his UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in central Iraq April 2. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.

Marine Cpl. Evan T. James, 20, of Hancock, Ill. James had been declared missing in action on March 24, near Saddam Canal; his remains were recovered on March 25.

Army Spc. William A. Jeffries, 39, died in a hospital in Spain March 26 from a sudden illness that came on when he was in Kuwait. He was assigned to D Company, 1st Battalion, 152nd Infantry Regiment of the Illinois Army National Guard.

Pfc. Howard Johnson II, 21, of Mobile, Ala. He was killed March 23 when his 507th Ordnance Maintenance Company was ambushed.

Hospital Corpsman 3rd Class (Fleet Marine Force) Michael Vann Johnson Jr., 25, of Little Rock, Ark. Johnson was killed in action March 25 in Iraq. He was assigned to Naval Medical Center San Diego, 3rd Marine Division Detachment, San Diego.

Pvt. Devon D. Jones, 19, of San Diego, Calif., died when his vehicle fell into a ravine April 4. He was a member of the 41st Artillery Regiment, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Staff Sgt. Phillip A. Jordan, 42, Brazoria, Texas. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. He was killed March 23 near An Nasiriyah. He was among the nine Marines killed in Iraq Sunday when enemy troops pretending to surrender opened fire.

2nd Lt. Jeffrey J. Kaylor, 24, of Clifton, Va., who was killed in action in Iraq on April 7. Kaylor was assigned to C Battery, 39th Field Artillery Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Spc. James M. Kiehl, 22, of Comfort, Texas. Kiehl was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. He was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Capt. Edward J. Korn, 31, of Savannah, Ga., was killed while he investigated the wreckage of a T-72 tank destroyed by his unit in central Iraq. Korn was assigned to the 64th Armor, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Sgt. Brad Korthaus, 28, Davenport, Iowa, drowned in canal March 24. He was assigned to Engineering Company C, 6th Engineer Support Battalion, 4th Force Service Support Group, based in Peoria, Ill. His remains were found on March 25.

Cpl. Brian Matthew Kennedy, 25, of Houston, was assigned to the Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 268, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton, Calif. Kennedy died in a CH-46E helicopter crash on March 20 in Kuwait.

Sgt. Michael V. Lalush, 23, of Troutville, Va., was killed on March 30 in a UH-1N Huey helicopter crash in southern Iraq. He was assigned to Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron-169, Marine Air Craft Group-39, Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Staff Sgt. Nino D. Livaudais, 23, of Utah, died April 3 from injuries sustained in combat. He was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.

Spc. Ryan P. Long, 21, died April 3 from injuries sustained in combat. He was assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga.

Marine Lance Cpl. Joseph B. Maglione, 22, of Lansdale, Pa., died from a non-combat weapons discharge April 1 in Kuwait. Maglione was assigned to Bridge Company B, 6th Engineer Support Battalion, 4th Force Service Support Group, based in Folsom, Pa.

Chief Warrant Officer Johnny Villareal Mata, 35, of Amarillo, Texas. Villareal Mata was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. He was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Staff Sgt. Donald C. May, Jr., 31, of Richmond, Va., of the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

Pfc. Francisco A. Martinez-Flores, 21, of Los Angeles. Martinez-Florez was assigned to the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

Marine Sgt. Brian D. McGinnis, 23, of St. George, Del., died March 30 in a UH-1N Huey helicopter crash in southern Iraq. He was assigned to Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron-169, Marine Air Craft Group-39, Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton, Calif.

1st Lt. Brian M. McPhillips, 25, of Pembroke, Mass., was killed April 4 during a firefight in central Iraq. He was assigned to the 2nd Tank Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, based at Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Gunnery Sgt. Joseph Menusa, 33, of San Jose, Calif. He was assigned to the 1st Combat Engineer Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Pfc. Anthony S. Miller, 19, of San Antonio, Texas, who was killed April 7 by enemy indirect fire in Iraq. Miller was assigned to Headquarters and Headquarters Company, 3rd Infantry Division, 2nd Brigade, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Marine Lance Cpl. Patrick R. Nixon, 21, of Nashville, has been reclassified as killed in action from missing. Nixon was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. His unit was engaged in operations March 23 on the outskirts of An Nasiriyah in Iraq. His remains were recovered March 30.

Spc. Donald S. Oaks Jr., 20, of Erie, Pa., was killed in action in Iraq on April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple-Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla.

Lance Cpl. Patrick T. O'Day, 20, of Sonoma, Calif., of the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

Lance Cpl. Eric J. Orlowski, 26, of Buffalo, N.Y., who was killed by an accidental discharge of a .50 caliber machine gun in Iraq. He was assigned to the 2nd Tank Battalion, 2nd Marine Division, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Sgt. Michael F. Pedersen, 26, of Flint, Mich. He was killed when his UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in central Iraq April 2. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.

Pfc. Lori Ann Piestewa, 23, Tuba City, Ariz. Piestewa was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. She was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

2nd Lt. Frederick E. Pokorney Jr., 31, Nye, Nev. He was assigned to the Headquarters Battery, 1st Battalion, 10th Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C.

Sgt. 1st Class Randall S. Rehn, 36, Longmont, Colo., was killed in action April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple-Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla.

Pfc. Diego Fernando Rincon, 19, of Conyers, Ga. He was assigned to the 2-7th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga. Rincon killed at a checkpoint by a car bomb on March 29.

Sgt. Duane R. Rios, 25, of Hammond, Ind., was killed April 4 during a firefight in central Iraq. He was assigned to the 1st Combat Engineer Battalion, 1st Marine Division, based at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Capt. Russell B. Rippetoe, 27, died April 3 from injuries sustained in combat. He was assigned to A Company, 3rd Battalion, 75th Ranger Regiment, Fort Benning, Ga. He was from Colorado.

Sgt. Todd J. Robbins, 33, Pentwater, Mich., was killed in action April 3. He was assigned to C Battery, 3rd Battalion, 13th Field Artillery Regiment (Multiple-Launch Rocket System), Fort Sill, Okla.

Marine Cpl. Robert M. Rodriguez, 21, of Queens, N.Y., was killed in action March 27 when the tank he was riding in fell into the Euphrates River during combat operations northwest of An Nasiriyah. His remains were recovered March 30. He was assigned to the 1st Tank Battalion, 1st Marine Division, Marine Corps Air-Ground Combat Center, Twentynine Palms, Calif.

Cpl. Randal Kent Rosacker, 21, San Diego, Calif. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. He was killed March 23 near An Nasiriyah.

Spc. Brandon J. Rowe, 20, of Roscoe, Ill., was killed in action March 31 in Ayyub, Iraq, by enemy artillery. He was assigned to the C Company, 1st Battalion, 502nd Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne Division (Air Assault), Fort Campbell, Ky.

Capt. Benjamin W. Sammis, 29, of Rehobeth, Mass., was killed in action April 4 when his AH-1W Super Cobra helicopter crashed during combat operations near Ali Aziziyal, Iraq. He was assigned to the Marine Light Attack Helicopter Squadron-267, Marine Aircraft Group 39, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Army Spc. Gregory P. Sanders, 19, of Indiana. He was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 69th Armore, Fort Stewart, Ga. He died March 24.

Army Capt. Christopher Scott Seifert, 27, who was killed by a grenade when he was sleeping in a tent at Camp Pennsylvania, Kuwait, March 22. Seifert was assigned to the 101st Airborne Division, Fort Campbell, Ky.

Cpl. Erik H. Silva, 22, of Chula Vista, Calif., was killed in action in Iraq April 3. Silva was assigned to the 3rd Battalion, 5th Marines, 1st Marine Division, based at Camp Pendleton, Calif.

Pvt. Brandon U. Sloan, 19, of Cleveland, Ohio. Sloan was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. He was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Lance Cpl. Thomas J. Slocum, age unknown, Adams, Colo. Slocum was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. He was killed near An Nasiriyah.

Chief Warrant Officer Eric A. Smith, 41, of Calif. He was killed when his UH-60 Black Hawk helicopter crashed in central Iraq April 2. He was a member of the 2nd Battalion, 3rd Aviation Regiment, Hunter Army Airfield, Ga.

Sgt. 1st Class Paul R. Smith, 33, of Tampa, Fl., was killed in action April 4. Smith was assigned to the 11th Engineer Battalion, Fort Stewart, Ga.

Sgt. Roderic A. Solomon, 32, from Fayetteville, N.C., died March 28 when his Bradley Fighting Vehicle rolled off a cliff in a non-hostile accident in Iraq. Solomon was assigned to the 2-7th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division, out of Fort Stewart, Ga.

Air National Guard Maj. Gregory Stone, 40, of Boise, Idaho, died March 25, from wounds sustained when an American soldier allegedly threw a hand grenade into his tent. Stone was assigned to the 124th Air Support Operations Squadron.

Army Reserve Spc. Brandon S. Tobler, 19. His hometown was not available. Tobler died in a vehicle accident March 22 in Iraq. Tobler was assigned to the 671st Engineer Brigade, Portland, Ore.

Sgt. Donald R. Walters, 33, of Kansas City, Mo. Walters was killed on or about March 23 when the convoy he was traveling in was ambushed in southern Iraq. He was with the 507th Maintenance Company, Fort Bliss, Texas.

Staff Sgt. Kendall Damon Watersbey, 29, of Baltimore, who was assigned to the Marine Medium Helicopter Squadron 268, 3rd Marine Aircraft Wing, Marine Corps Air Station Camp Pendleton, Calif. Watersbey died in a CH-46E helicopter crash March 20 in Kuwait.

Pfc. Michael Russell Creighton Weldon, 20, of Conyers, Ga. He was assigned to the 2-7th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga. Weldon was on of four Americans killed at a checkpoint near An Najaf by a car bomb on March 29.

Sgt. Eugene Williams, 24, of Highland, N.Y. He was assigned to the 2-7th Infantry, 3rd Infantry Division, Fort Stewart, Ga. Williams was killed at a checkpoint by a car bomb on March 29.

Lance Cpl. Michael J. Williams, 31, of Yuma, Ariz. He was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 2nd Marine Regiment, 2nd Marine Expeditionary Brigade, Camp Lejeune, N.C. His unit was engaged in operations March 23 on the outskirts of An Nasiriyah in Iraq. His remains were recovered March 28.

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Previously confirmed as missing in action:

Sgt. Edward J. Anguiano, 24, of Brownsville, Texas;

Pfc. Tamario D. Burkett, 21, of Erie, N.Y.;

Cpl. Kemaphoom A. Chanawongse, 22, of Waterford, Conn.;

Lance Cpl. Donald J. Cline Jr., 21, of Washoe, Nev.;

Pvt. Jonathan L. Gifford, 20, of Macon, Ill.; and

Pvt. Nolen R. Hutchings, 19, of Boiling Springs, S.C.

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Previously confirmed prisoners-of-war:

Chief Warrant Officer David S. Williams, 30, of Florida;

Chief Warrant Officer Ronald D. Young Jr., 26, of Georgia;

Spc. Edgar Adan Hernandez, 21, of Mission, Texas;

Spc. Joseph Neal Hudson, 23, of Alamogordo, N.M.;

Spc. Shoshana Nyree Johnson, 30, of El Paso, Texas;

Pfc. Patrick Wayne Miller, 23, of Walter, Kan.; and

Sgt. James Joseph Riley, 31, of Pennsauken, N.J.

(Source: U.S. Department of Defense.)






 
 colin
 
posted on April 12, 2003 07:57:21 AM new
Freedom has a price. It usually a high price.

Amen,
Reverend Colin

 
 ferncrestmotel
 
posted on April 12, 2003 06:51:08 PM new
hibbertst -
Your listing of U.S. military bases in Germany and Japan hardly presents an intelligent rebuttal to my claim that the U.S. left those countries after we conquered their EVIL and truly "imperialist" regimes.
Our troops are there by mutual agreement, in case you weren't aware of that. Germany was grateful to have us there to protect them from the Cold War-era Soviet Union, and Japan needed our help to protect them from any potential Chinese ambitions.
As to Germany's current attitude to U.S. forces there, some believe the European Union is a precursor to a military unification effort by France, Germany, and others who want to create a new superpower.
Only time will tell if that is true.
 
 hibbertst
 
posted on April 12, 2003 09:20:42 PM new
ferncrestmotel



 
 ferncrestmotel
 
posted on April 13, 2003 05:38:13 AM new
hibbertst -
Thanks! That cartoon sums up the absurdity of your listing military bases in response to my post.
It was quite colorful - I bet you like shiny objects as well . . .
 
 colin
 
posted on April 13, 2003 06:05:29 AM new
Well hib,
You've made the Rev's A-List.
Amen,
Reverend Colin

 
 wgm
 
posted on April 13, 2003 06:33:36 AM new
ferncrest - ROFLMAO!


"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson

"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
 
 hibbertst
 
posted on April 13, 2003 10:03:12 AM new
"Freedom has a price. It usually a high price." :colon

commonplace

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 colin
 
posted on April 13, 2003 11:38:33 AM new
Is that you Boringrillar?

The way you float on and spew crap it must be you.

Welcome back oh holy one.

Amen,
Reverend Colin

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 21, 2003 08:45:42 PM new
Susan Sontag just published "Regarding the Pain of Others" which follows the discussion of this thread...

From the book cover,

One of the distinguishing features of modern life is that it supplies countless opportunities for regarding (at a distance, through the medium of photography) horrors taking place throughout the world. Images of atrocities have become, via the little screens of the television and the computer, something of a commonplace. But are viewers inured---or incited--to violence by the depiction of cruelty? Is the viewer's perception of reality eroded by the daily barrage of such images? What does it mean to care about the sufferings of people in faraway zones of conflict?

Susan Sontag's now classic book On Photography defined the terms of this debate twenty five years ago. Her new book is a profound rethinking of the intersection of "news," art, and understanding in the contemporary depiction of war and disaster. She makes a fresh appraisal of the arguments about how pictures can inspire dissent, foster violence, or create apathy, evoking a long history of the representation of the pain of others--from Goya's The Disasters of War to photographic documents of the American Civil War, lynchings of blacks in the South, the First World War, the Spanish Civil War, the Nazi death camps and contemporary images from Bosnia, Sierra Leone, Rwanda, Israel and Palestine, and New Your City on September 11, 2001.

This is also a book about how war itself is waged (and understood) in our time, replete with vivid historical examples and a variety of arguments advanced from some unexpected literary sources, Plato, Leonardo da Vinci, Edmund Burke, Wordsworth, Baudelaire, and Virginia Woolf all figure in this passionate reflection on the modern understanding of violence and atrocity. It includes as well a stinging attack on the provincialism of media pundits who denigrate the reality of war, and a political understanding of conflict, with glib talk about a new, worldwide "society of spectacle." Just as On Photography challenged how we understand the very condition of being modern, Regarding the Pain of Others will alter our thinking not only about the uses and meanings of images, gut about the nature of war, the limits of sympathy and the obligations of conscience.

BTW There are no photographs in the book.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 21, 2003 10:01:09 PM new
Helen, your description for the book is done well, have you listed it yet? Do you ship media mail, and do you take PayPal?

hibberst-these people:

Chief Warrant Officer David S. Williams, 30, of Florida;

Chief Warrant Officer Ronald D. Young Jr., 26, of Georgia;

Spc. Edgar Adan Hernandez, 21, of Mission, Texas;

Spc. Joseph Neal Hudson, 23, of Alamogordo, N.M.;

Spc. Shoshana Nyree Johnson, 30, of El Paso, Texas;

Pfc. Patrick Wayne Miller, 23, of Walter, Kan.; and

Sgt. James Joseph Riley, 31, of Pennsauken, N.J.

I swear to God I saw them all come on back to Texas to a huge crowd, was I just seeing things?





Art Bell Retired! George Noory is on late night coasttocoastam.com
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on April 21, 2003 11:22:01 PM new

No, NearTheSea...

I'm not selling it. I just thought somebody here might want to read it.

Helen

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on April 22, 2003 06:39:46 AM new
I swear to God I saw them all come on back to Texas to a huge crowd, was I just seeing things?


LOL - What's the matter with you? Crowd? You should know that's all propaganda by your untrustworthy government.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on April 22, 2003 08:26:35 AM new
Linda, I don't know. I'm getting confused now, I read here, then I see these things, and I'm beginning to think now that They're All Out To Get Us! or TAOTGU for short

Oh sorry Helen, I thought you wanted all of us to critique your description for something for eBay







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