bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:20:40 AM new
Ok we got the point.
Ladys and gentlemen I rest my case.
The pic that Helen just posted says it all.
This post has ended as far as Im concerned.
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:22:11 AM new
Why? Blondie... Am I a christian in the sense of the word that I go to church every Sunday just to be seen? No... please don't tell me you think of yourself as a christian...well maybe you would it would fit...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:23:48 AM new
This post has ended as far as Im concerned.
This thread was over after the title... just ranting by people that want a socialist society and aren't willing to work...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:30:59 AM new
No its been about corrupt goverment.
Nobody said anything about people who dont want to work except you. I agree that people should not expect hand outs. You are just to close minded to what weve been saying
In your mind Bush can do no wrong and he is perfect.Well I got news for you buddy..
HE SUCKS WHEN IT COMES TO TAKING CARE OF HIS OWN COUNTRY.
HE SUCKS WHEN IT COMES TO THE ECONOMY
HE SUCKS WHEN IT COMES TO FOREIGN POLICY
AND THAT IS FACT
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:36:05 AM new
No I am not, you are placing the blame on others instead of taking responsibilty yourself... sure people have lost jobs... that is a fact... sure the economy is in a slump and fat wages are few and far between, but my point... lets make this simple so you can understand... PEOPLE can WORK if they want and it would start to bring the ECONOMY around... but they would rather sit and try to sponge off the government...
Only reason I say it is because that is the only TRUE fact holding back the economy...
But I do get one thing, when I proved you wrong about Republican presidents you couldn't answer so now want stop this post... that is the biggest laugh of all
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
[ edited by Twelvepole on Apr 15, 2003 10:38 AM ]
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:40:31 AM new
Yes thats part of it. But come on man you know Bush has done a terrible job. You cant deny it. Now he wants to start trouble with Syria. He doesnt seem to understand if the money is not there you cant spend it. We are already in a huge defesit due to this war and now he wants to fight another one.
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REAMOND
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:43:02 AM new
As more of the truth comes out about Clinton, it shows that the problems Bush faces were caused by Clinton.
It was the height of cowardice by Clinton to pay N Korea blck mail money, and the height of courage for Bush to end it.
The "great" economy under Clinton was a facade of corruption and speculation - it collapsed in Bush's lap.
The foreign policy of Clinton looked good at the time but look what it yielded - it too proved to be a facade of cowardice and putting off what needed to be done.
The middle class that is falling out is due to their unwillingness to retrain and re-educate. The days of earning $20,000 - $45,000 a year on an assembly line or in a manufacturing plant are over. Unless you acquire higher level skills, you will be competing for jobs with Mexicans and Chinese.
But the best FACT that shows that Bush is proving to be the better president is that Clinton was booed at a Willy Nelson concert in New York.
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sweetees
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:50:53 AM new
12,
If you could post something in a clear, consise manner without insults, maybe someone would answer you.
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sweetees
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:52:31 AM new
Is it Anti-American to not agree with Bush's policies?
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colin
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posted on April 15, 2003 10:55:27 AM new
bigcitypeabrain,
Sorry to hear your Moms so poor. Why don't you get off your a** and help her out? That's what family is all about.
I hate it when people jump on someone's spelling or grammar but in your case I must. If your wondering why no one answers your questions. It's because it can't be understood the way it's written and or spelled. Just constructive criticism.
By your posts I'd say your Mom was doing okay. She must have a computer in the house or how else would you get on line?
At least you proven one of my points about the socialist being below the intellectual quota.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 11:00:59 AM new
Shes not poor. Shes middle class. And this is my computer jerky
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 11:04:09 AM new
Theyve answered everything else Ive said ya fu@$in punk.
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neonmania
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posted on April 15, 2003 11:20:13 AM new
""But the best FACT that shows that Bush is proving to be the better president is that Clinton was booed at a Willy Nelson concert in New York.""
Willy Nelson fans are the measuring stick of America? I think you may be giving just a tad too much credence to this act.
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desquirrel
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posted on April 15, 2003 11:30:28 AM new
"We are already in a huge defesit due to this war"
Wait a minute, I thought we invaded Iraq to grab all their oil and turn a profit. LOL.
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REAMOND
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posted on April 15, 2003 12:24:54 PM new
Were the willy concert not in New York city, I might agree that the sample was suspect.
But if Bubba Clinton gets booed at a Willy concert in NYC, his popularity is definitely eroding.
In any event, the left and the dems have sealed their political fate by again debasing patriotism and refusing to acknowledge and act in defence of America.
We are witnessing the collapse of the left in America.
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neonmania
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posted on April 15, 2003 01:02:45 PM new
::In any event, the left and the dems have sealed their political fate by again debasing patriotism and refusing to acknowledge and act in defence of America.
We are witnessing the collapse of the left in America. ::
Wishful thinking or heartfelt sentiment?
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REAMOND
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posted on April 15, 2003 01:36:00 PM new
Neither. Just the facts lead me to that conclusion.
The left is falling like Saddam Hussein. There may be a few lefty liars and dweebs here and there just like Baghdad Bob, but the party is over.
The lefties have cried wolf throughout the actions in Afghanistan and Iraq. They paid black mail money to N Korea, and tax payers are fed up with the socialist agenda.
The federal courts will soon be stacked with conservatives.
The only wishful "thinking" would be that the left is gaining relevance.
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 15, 2003 02:05:11 PM new
Let's look at the facts. Bill Clinton promised 200,000 additional jobs because of NAFTA "by 1995 alone". In fact, over 200,000 jobs have been lost because of NAFTA. The Global Trade Watch project of Public Citizen reviewed the job creation promises of dozens of corporations and found that every one of those companies has already "laid off workers because of NAFTA". In 1993 a vice president of Mattel Corporation assured a Congressional subcommittee that NAFTA would have "a very positive effect" on that company's 2,000 U.S. employees. Two years later 520 workers in Mattel's Medina, New York plant were laid off. Why? Because of "increased company imports from Mexico" that resulted from NAFTA
Here is an excerpt from an article on NAFTA, which btw President Clinton signed and wanted... Here is your answer to why so few jobs now... not just when President Bush came into office...NAFTA=EVIL
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 15, 2003 02:06:40 PM new
Sweetees, I could write in the "Dick sees Jane" style and doubtful you would understand even then... don't you have some baking or cleaning to do?
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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donny
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posted on April 15, 2003 02:11:29 PM new
Colin says:
"I hate it when people jump on someone's spelling or grammar but in your case I must."
and then Colin continues his own post with numerous spelling and grammatical errors of his own.
Dope.
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 02:28:45 PM new
Heres what I dont understand. We were just having a friendly debate and people had to get personal and tried to insult people they disigreed with.
Thats pretty immature. Just like boycotting French products just to get even for disigreeing with Bush to go to war.
Freedom Fries....
Thats just sad and pathetic.
That also hurts our economy.
By the way. People wouldnt have lost their jobs if our economy wasnt falling apart. Clintons plan would of never caved.
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Linda_K
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posted on April 15, 2003 02:46:44 PM new
Just like boycotting French products just to get even for disigreeing with Bush to go to war. Ummmm....Chirac didn't just disagree with Bush....he actively pursued other leaders/nations to go against the US. AND some reports have stated the French actively BACKED Saddam. We'll read even more about that later I suspect.
People wouldnt have lost their jobs if our economy wasnt falling apart. Clintons plan would of never caved. I believe you are very misinformed. If you do some research you will find the economy started it's downward fall about 8-9 months BEFORE Clinton left office. Of course, you also don't appear to recognize that 9-11 had anything to do with further hurting our economy. But, I have no doubt that 9-11 wouldn't have done anything to our economy under a clinton administration.....right.....
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
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colin
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posted on April 15, 2003 03:15:27 PM new
People lose their jobs everyday. It could be the economy, bad management or just a fickle public.
Anyway. What I want to say is. I doubt Bigcity or donny ever had a job to begin with.
Sorry that your only 15 minutes of fame will be on the Reverend's A-List.
Amen,
Reverend Colin
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sweetees
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posted on April 15, 2003 03:39:44 PM new
LOL 12....I love that! I do so look forward to reading your posts...they are so witty and humorous.
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Twelvepole
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posted on April 15, 2003 04:35:27 PM new
Bush (Darth Vader) continuing his imperialism
Nothing friendly about the title...
Your very title is insulting and personal...
Couldn't go anywhere else...
Sweetees... glad you like a good laugh...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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MAH645
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posted on April 15, 2003 05:18:09 PM new
Bush is the BEST President we have had in a long time.Clinton was the worst we had ever had in history.
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 05:22:40 PM new
Anyway. What I want to say is. I doubt Bigcity or donny ever had a job to begin with.
I dont have time for this bul@$t?
You guys protect George Bush like hes family or something. You take everything so personal when it comes to GWB.
Your to busy suckin his di@%# to have a decent conversation.
Later.. lol
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Linda_K
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posted on April 15, 2003 05:32:35 PM new
bigcitycollectibles - I personally support Bush's actions/decisions in regards to this war. I also side with my country...I'm not one who sides with countries who would love nothing better than to see my way of life destroyed.
And even a recent New York Times poll shows 61% of the democrats support his actions on Iraq. That says something coming from any New York Times poll. And having the backing of 73% of American's is a strong percentage. To me that makes a statement about how most American's feel about both terrorists and ANY nation see as a threat to our country.
You democrats better find a canidate who appears to the American public to be aggressive on fighting terrorists or you're going to see another 4 years or more of a Republican president.
I believe so far, Kerry is the only one running who supports war....but then even he keeps changing his mind. Although I believe Sharpton and the woman canidate also supported the war....but on those two I'm not positive.
The question is not what a man can scorn, or disparage, or find fault with, but what he can love, and value, and appreciate. J. Ruskin
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bigcitycollectables
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posted on April 15, 2003 05:39:00 PM new
Finnally someone with a decent comment.
Yes I do support the war on Terror.
My point this whole time has ben not that this war is wrong but that freeing Iraque and WMD are not the main reasons why we went to war.
I was never against this war with Iraque.
I just know that there is a catch 22 that goes along with it.
This thing with Syria is total bul#@t but it is apart of the goverments plan and has been for a long time.
Come on now. Something doesnt smell funny to you about this?
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wgm
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posted on April 15, 2003 05:48:43 PM new
Heres what I dont understand. We were just having a friendly debate and people had to get personal and tried to insult people they disigreed with.
bigcity - from what I have read, you are being the most disrepectful to EVERYONE on this thread. Your use of profanity is appalling, but you blame others for being insulting...
the pot calling the kettle black 
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle."  - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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