posted on October 8, 2001 10:42:15 AM new
I got rid of the cookie the day they gave it to me. I do not use that site at all, to many nasty people over there. I think justjoan is just using aw to get people to look at her items. If that is not self promotion I do not know what is.
[ edited by wlaschin on Oct 8, 2001 10:43 AM ]
posted on October 8, 2001 07:38:07 PM new
[wlaschin
I got rid of the cookie the day they gave it to me. I do not use that site at all, to many nasty people over there. I think justjoan is just using aw to get people to look at her items. If that is not self promotion I do not know what is. ]
You know I really take exception to your additude. Being as you never go to the site then why are you downing it.The people are not nasty over there, and if you think the are then how do you knoow being as you never go there.
And where do I show that I'm trying to PROMOTE MY ITEMS, I have never listed them , and don't, but I do show my profile which is my web page.I find 90% of the posters here hide behind names, and give no info. I don't ask you to look, I have been nicely trying to comment on How I do Like Bidville, but it seems the people that come to the AW boards have one idea in their minds, and that's to be nasty about any site or PERSON that comes to these boards to say a NICE something.
I've had it with this kind of negativity....
posted on October 9, 2001 06:46:29 AM new
justjoan >
The people are not nasty over there,
I wonder why the Bidville PREZ felt it necessary, then, to issue the "Time to Clean the Boards" directive.
When driving through the community I *still* roll up the windows and lock the doors.
bearmom >
There IS life over there! Another sale-that makes 3 sales and 1 bidder so far.
As they say, one week is not a trend. Please keep us up-to-date on your personal sell-through rate in weeks two, three, four, etc. How many relists are you working with, if I may ask?
posted on October 9, 2001 02:47:10 PM new
RichHillbilly >
I do have a lot of friends at Bidville and of course I have a few enemies. As most already know I used to spend a lot of time looking for shill bidders and scam artists at Bidville. When I found them I turned them in. Bidville would suspend them. That is great! I have presently retired from my late night early morning shill patrolling. Why? They made me mad by jerking my posts from the boards.
Shill bidders? Thought that the new vertification system closed that loophole.
I wonder what fraction of "closed auctions with bids" are kaput from the get go?
edited to add my "signature":
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http://go.to/dimview (coming soon!)
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[ edited by dimview on Oct 9, 2001 03:00 PM ]
posted on October 9, 2001 03:39:29 PM new
Dim, good move on the 'coming soon' webpage. The go.to domain names are great because they send visitors to your site through the go.to site and it is untraceable.
posted on October 9, 2001 06:35:38 PM new
"wlaschin why did you get suspended at bidville? I have been thinking about registering there."
I have no idea why I was suspended. They never emailed me. It was a while ago so I would say I was banished. If you sell one cent cards or garage sale items that cost less than a dollar you may have some luck. I would try half.com (while they are still half). They have a high fvf but no listing fees AND they have the traffic and advertising. Just the facts.....
posted on October 9, 2001 07:17:25 PM new
There are a lot of ads on that site without any bids, not unlike many other dotcoms. Yet I feel that there is some potential for the
site to continue to grow.
posted on October 10, 2001 05:19:55 AM new
dimview, I know I'm not going to get rich on bidville. Those things sold for the same reason that items sell when you first list them on Yahoo. And now on Ebay.
They are something new.. I have been browsing the same categories on bidville since it's inception, and it's amazing how many items are still there that have been there for months. Yahoo is the same way, Ebay is getting that way. So when something new does show up, the lookers look.
I don't know about anyone else, but if something doesn't sell fairly soon, I don't keep relisting it. Goodwill loves me! After 3 months I take the write-off and list something else. And my customers know that when they look at my auctions, there will be something fresh!
posted on October 10, 2001 08:08:08 AM new
Bearmom, a good customer base and items they like are very important and you are in that group. Most of the successful sellers on all auction sites have that winning combination of great items, prices, service, and selection and that keeps the customers returning with friends that they tell about your auctions.
posted on October 11, 2001 01:24:39 AM new
dimview, I scanned many User ID'S and thousands of feedbacks. I used to do this nightly. The percentage of felons was small. It would not be enough to dampen your statistics. Personally I probably helped to get rid of 5 or 6. Of course this did hurt Bidvilles numbers because one guy that left had 2,500 auctions. I don't look for it anymore but if I were to stumble up on it. I still would not bring it to anybodys attention. The way I look at it get out and find them theirselves. I can probably add to your stats a little. Is the country struggling through a recession since the terrorist attacks? Darn tootin it is. I keep track of the Hillbilly stats like you do Bidville's. When the Hillbilly ain't making no money. Nobody is at Bidville, nor Yahoo. I just became a member at E-Bay give me a couple of months and I will give you my impression of that place. See ya'll, Hillbilly
posted on October 11, 2001 06:38:14 AM new
RichHillbilly >
Is the country struggling through a recession since the terrorist attacks? Darn tootin it is.
According to news sources:
... auctioneer eBay Inc. (Nasdaq:EBAY - news) and online retailer Amazon.com Inc. (Nasdaq:AMZN - news) both saw sharp dips in traffic following the Sept. 11 jetliner attacks, but traffic recovered through the month. In the final week it was close to the levels reached before the attacks, ...
I must therefore conclude that the problem of no pageviewers, no bidding and no sales at Bidville is not online auctions in general, rather the problem *is* Bidville and the apparent lack of plans to develop name recognition.
WHERZ THE PAGEVIEWERZ?
WHERZ THE BIDDERZ?
WHERZ THE SALEZ?
WHERZ THE WEEKLY SALEZ REPORTZ?
WHERZ THE PLANZ?
fixed UBB.
[ edited by dimview on Oct 11, 2001 06:40 AM ]
posted on October 11, 2001 08:23:00 AM new
I hope nobody tries to tie the September 11th tragedy to the recession. That tragic event may have just been the straw that broke the camel's back. The economy was in very bad shape well before September 11th. I think Bidville is doing just as good or just as bad, depending on your viewpoint, as the other free or near-free auctions.
posted on October 11, 2001 08:37:27 AM new
bidsbids,
At last check, the sell-through rate at ePier had increased to 1.5% while the category-by-category look at Bidville thus far shows extensive weakness and I would not be surprised to see sell-through rate well below 1%, well below that of ePier.
typo.
[ edited by dimview on Oct 11, 2001 08:38 AM ]
posted on October 11, 2001 09:24:40 AM new
I'm sure you're correct on the 1% figure but if the number is 1% or 1.5% or 2% it's all close to be the same, very low.
I feel the reason the BV CEO stopped posting the weekly stats was the gallery and featured items numbers is that those numbers must be very low compared to when the numbers were started.
The free auction sites were never the picture of health and with the rapidly weakening economy they should continue to get worse and worse. I can easily visualize more than a few of the free site owners getting disheartened to the point of thrown in the towel or surgical mask or whatever.
posted on October 11, 2001 09:37:03 AM new
bidsbids >
I'm sure you're correct on the 1% figure but if the number is 1% or 1.5% or 2% it's all close to be the same, very low.
Oh, okay, I see what the point you're making. It will be interesting to see if ePier can manage further sell-through rate increases since the modest FVF could well be worth it for frustrated and depressed sellers at the Internet's Largest Inventory Warehouse.
I feel the reason the BV CEO stopped posting the weekly stats was the gallery and featured items numbers is that those numbers must be very low compared to when the numbers were started.
Seems likely that Bidville has their own internal reports, but the results ain't too pretty and certainly not something the PREZ wants to see posted on the "View Sales Information" page.
I think the PREZ should just delete the old table of data and delete the link.
The free auction sites were never the picture of health and with the rapidly weakening economy they should continue to get worse and worse. I can easily visualize more than a few of the free site owners getting disheartened to the point of thrown in the towel or surgical mask or whatever.
Didn't the Bidville PREZ comment in a news story sometime last year that there were sufficient funds on hand for three years of operation? If so, there's two years remaining.
posted on October 11, 2001 10:10:07 PM new Didn't the Bidville PREZ comment in a news story sometime last year that there were sufficient funds on hand for three years of operation? If so, there's two years remaining.
He did make that statement but that was before he decide to sue a huge company like PayPal. His legal expenses must be very high.
posted on October 12, 2001 10:59:29 AM new
This subject is all over the place. Bidville will never have success. That is a guarantee. Some people will say that they have success, but their idea of success is most peoples idea of a flop. I expect at least a 90% sell through rate. I am in the sports card market, and realize that it is different for every one, but 3 auctions selling out of 350??? Come on, how can that be success in anyones eyes.
I am suspended from the Bidville site (I think I called the Prez a Nazi or something), but have 4 different names on there. They cant find me, and they dont know. I just deleted my Cache and was able to access the site again. I never buy nor sell on there anymore. I just go to their website, and see what "success" is...lol. There are some good people on there (Hillbilly, FullCount and a few others), but the majority of the people on there are in denial about the site. Some day they will catch on. But if a .5% to a 1% sell through rate doesnt make them catch on, I dont know what will, so maybe they never will. That is until they are roaming the internet looking for the "Newest and Best Free auction site" out there when bidville hits the dirt. Take care all...T.J.
posted on October 12, 2001 12:36:40 PM new
Tjkitchens,
I also sell sports cards. Unless you are selling hot cards exclusively or willing to sell many at give-away prices, aren’t you being a little idealistic to require 90% sell-through rate as a measure of success? That would be nice, but unrealistic in most cases. Even Ebay’s sell-through rate is only about 60%.
I think you (and some others) must recognize that the definition of success varies greatly from seller to seller. Also one’s definition of success on one site may differ greatly from another site. I will use my own selling as an example. I sell almost exclusively football cards, and most of my listings are inserts that book from $5-$20, and bulk regular card lots. I would define very little of what I sell as hot. I sell primarily on Yahoo and Bidville. I consider Yahoo as my main site. On Yahoo, I consider my 40-50% sell-through rate as a success. At that rate, I achieve a profit level that both pays for my bulk purchases and provides some decent additional income. My expectations for Bidville are much different. Since I have paid for all of my purchases with my Yahoo sales, I consider any sales on Bidville as almost pure profit. I would estimate my normal sell-through rate at 2-3% weekly which I would not term a success, but is still profitable. I would consider 5% weekly sell-through as successful and would be very pleased at a 10% rate.
Now my % may not be considered successful by some and very successful by some. Each seller has a unique profit margin and expectation level. In the end, each seller must decide on whether a site is successful for them.
posted on October 12, 2001 01:11:34 PM new
Dimview,
Without some significant changes, I would not anticipate sitewide averages in that range in the near term. However I believe that I can achieve personal rates in that range with completion of some of the personal organization steps that I am taking.
On a totally different subject, have you ever posted sell-through rates on Bargain & Haggle? There have been several posts from sellers there who state that their personal B&H rate exceeds their Ebay rate. I would be interested in knowing the overall site rate.
Here's hoping for a new agenda! Yippee