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 tomyou
 
posted on July 3, 2003 10:46:38 AM new
Osama is hiding with Cheny. They both have health issues and with healthcare in the shape it is in they save money by sharing a physician and rent on the hide away bunker. Both have concerns about their job security so they are pinching pennies.
and it's in halliburtons. closets and they are using worldcom technology for communications

I think I need to toss some trash in on another candidate. Off to the search.
[ edited by tomyou on Jul 3, 2003 10:56 AM ]
 
 austbounty
 
posted on July 3, 2003 11:00:29 AM new
REY:“Bush lied about Iraq ? No more than the protesters live a lie every day as they drive in their cars, fly in their planes, live in an air condition home, learn at air conditioned schools, or even ride bikes that were shipped by ships, boats, and planes to them, and ride them on streets paved with petro-chemicals. “

The difference is that ‘we’ act in ‘self interest’ and he is meant to be acting in the American interest.

“REY:“As alternative energy source must not only be as effective as oil, it must be cheaper than oil. “
And why not consider health or sustainability.??????????????????????

“Money isn't everything. If it were, what would we buy with it?” unknown author.


REY:“The break through “”””””will come”””” via a mixture of newer technologies, such as a genetically altered bacteria that cheaply converts sea water to hydrogen gas and oxygen.”
Now he’s a biochemist.

Just consider that any school kid can make hydrogen and oxygen from water, with electricity that can be got from the sun, wind, and tidal flow.

More assertions just like the star wars defence shield, which still can’t pick the difference between a bomb and a balloon shaped like a bomb.

What on earth is wrong with smaller cars.
Why go for a complex costly solution when the “””immediate”””” answer is so simple.
Is it a hangin’ offence in Texas to drive a mini.

Tomy
“They remembered Mr. Kerry as the antiwar activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals.”
Bush will never let you find out if it’s true because he is currently in the process of destroying the ICC (International Criminal Court) by “BLACKMAILING” any signatories to it by threatening to remove aid to any countries that sign up to it.
The simple reason America doesn’t have war criminals is because no one has ever been tried.

Australia has been exempt from such threats, even though we are signatories to the ICC, obviously because our little Johny H. has proven that he will tow the line.

“Hell hath no fury like a vested interest masquerading as a moral principle. “
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 Helenjw
 
posted on July 4, 2003 06:56:52 AM new
U.S. May Face Fight in Liberia, Even if Taylor Quits

Taylor has three choices...

1. Abandon power and return to his role as a warlord in the bush.

2. Stay in the capital and fight, risking capture or death. Capture would mean standing trial in a U.N. backed court, which indicted him June 4 for crimes against humanity.

3. Find asylum in another country...(Any such country would be harboring an international fugitive.)

~

Taylor is known as a fighter, and diplomatic sources monitoring events in Liberia said he will likely fight until the end to avoid facing the humiliation of a trial. The sources said that if Taylor is convinced a U.S.-led peacekeeping force will arrest him or end his rule, he will probably return to the bush.

"Taylor has no choice but to fight to the end," said one source who worked with Taylor for years. "He cannot go to the court. He cannot. So he will fight, and if he has to burn down all of Liberia to save himself, he will burn down all of Liberia."

But if Taylor resigns, opening the way for peacekeeping troops, the United States and other countries contributing the troops for such a force face an even more daunting problem: The rebel force that has taken control of most of the country is led by men who are no more palatable than Taylor.



 
 colin
 
posted on July 5, 2003 05:11:42 AM new
eviltom,
I caught your SCI fi pieces on another thread. How about a good essay or short on today's politics'

amen,
Reverend Colin

 
 Twelvepole
 
posted on July 5, 2003 05:45:18 AM new
Tomyou, I think you have pegged some good points...

Kerry, in all likely hood will not be the Democratic candidate against Bush, that would almost guarantee a President Bush victory.

oh we can only hope the dems to make him the candidate....



AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
 
 austbounty
 
posted on July 5, 2003 10:34:59 AM new
Aside for a moment:-
WHICH REGULAR POSTER IS NARU ON EBAY??????

Science Fact
bigcitycollectables suggested that you all read this site, well I did,
and it’s shows how Bush’s ‘rise’ mirrors that of Hitler’s.
Starting with: Hitler’s low election numbers but still “Hitler is appointed Chancellor by Hindenburg”.
& “Bush is appointed President by the Supreme Court”

American_Nazification
ush is foisted on the American public through a coup d'etat of the Supreme Court after massive election fraud perpetrated by his brother in Florida.
Thousands of voters were illegally disqualified in the 2000 election in the state of Florida, when Jeb Bush and his Secretary of State compiled a false list of felons who would not be allowed to vote.
The Supreme Court was packed with reactionary right-wingers, several of whom had conflicts of interest because of their ties to the Bush family.
Dubya appoints convicted criminals, racists, and corporate-controlled underlings to his cabinet.
January, 2001
Bush pushes his tax cuts for the wealthy through Congress, begins his assaults on the environment, and commands the FBI to stop investigations concerning the Bin Laden family and other suspected terrorist cells.
When the Word Trade Center and the Pentagon were attacked, Bush was listening to Florida grade school children read. When informed of the attack by his associates, he continued listening. He then flew to a security bunker in Nebraska before finally returning to the White House.
No military aircraft had been scrambled to intercept the four hijacked planes, though there was plenty of time to do so.
The Bush junta's totally cynical appointment of the war criminal Henry Kissinger to create a coverup for the 9/11 terrorist attacks on American citizens arouses additional suspicion that the Bush administration was complicit in the horror. Under pressure, Kissinger was forced to resign.
Hundreds of suspects were immediately jailed after 9/11, without benefit of habeas corpus or other rights. Some of these suspects have already been found guilty of the crime.
The Bush junta forced the Patriot Act bill through Congress, suspending essential civil liberties, excusing oppression as essential to the "war on terrorism," and maintaining that dissent was treason.
The Patriot Act abrogated the following American constitutional protections:
&#61623; Free expression of opinion
&#61623; Freedom of the press
&#61623; Right of assembly and association
&#61623; Right to privacy of postal and electronic communications
&#61623; Protection against unlawful searches and seizures
&#61623; Individual property rights
&#61623; States' right of self-government
Presidential decrees make it possible for military forces to be used to monitor and control the civilian population, in abrogation of the posse comitatus act
In the 2000 and now again in the midterm 2002 elections, electronic voting has meant that our democratic right to have our votes counted fairly and accurately has been taken from us by the Bush junta.
Since we now suffer under the situation where there is no opposition to the criminal Bush regime--most Democrats having effectively become pawns of the Republicans--then none of the state election frauds will be investigated. We can't be sure that key races such as that of Mondale in Minnesota and Carnahan in Missouri were not the result of massive vote fraud. We can be sure that the Florida gubernatorial race was completely fixed.
This sinister phase 3 of the Nazification of America is best understood by reviewing some of the information that Greg Palast has made available. Palast is the investigative reporter for BBC and the Observer who first exposed the 2000 Florida vote crimes.
94,000 people -- over half of them African American --were on a "scrub list" in Florida, resulting in their being blocked from voting in the 2000 election. Did Florida rectify this mistake before the 2002 election? Fuhgeddaboudit! Those voters won't be reinstated in Florida until January 2003--if ever.
Electronic, touch screen voting is the basis for election fraud:
&#61623; votes can easily be lost through "software glitches"
&#61623; Democratic votes can become Republican votes and no one is the wiser
The "touch" screen computers are made by ES&S, the vendor chosen by Katherine Harris, Florida Secretary of State and current congressperson. The lobbyist who sold that company's system to Jeb and Katherine is Sandy Mortham, founder of Women for Jeb and Harris' predecessor as Secretary of State. Mortham was the person who instigated the scam in 1998 to find black voters who could be disqualified.
ES&S machines, not surprisingly, failed to work in black precincts in 2002. And of course with electronic voting there is no paper ballot back-up.
In the "decisive" 2002 mid-term "elections" the Republicans gained control of all branches of government: executive, legislative, and judicial. Just as in Hitler's Enabling Act, so Bush Jr. forced the Homeland Security bill through Congress which gave him complete dictatorial powers:
&#61623; the President is able to make any decision he wishes without judicial or legislative restraint
&#61623; the executive branch can now carry on its meetings in secret, without scrutiny from the press or the people
&#61623; the "homeland security" agents can now intrude in any part of a citizen's life
&#61623; The Cyber Security Enhancement Act slipped into the Homeland Security bill at the last moment:
&#61623; allows police to conduct Internet or telephone eavesdropping willy-nilly with no requirement to ask a court's permission first
&#61623; demands life sentences for hackers that 'recklessly' endanger lives
&#61623; allows Net surveillance to gather telephone numbers, IP addresses, and URLs or e-mail information, where an 'immediate threat to a national security interest' is suspected
&#61623; permits ISPs to hand users' records over to law enforcement authorities, overturning current legislation that outlaws such behavior
&#61623; the Homeland Security Information Awareness Office will be run by a former convicted felon
&#61623; up to 850,000 jobs will be privatized, knocking out union and civil service oversight
On November 14, 2002, as the Senate was being pressured to pass a hastily-prepared homeland security bill, Senator Byrd spoke out vehemently against the bill as Bush's grab for dictatorial power--the worst act of tyranny, Byrd said, in the fifty years he's been in Congress.
Secret US Police Concentration Camps
In a revealing admission in June, 1997, the Director of Resource Management for the U.S. Army confirmed the validity of a memorandum relating to the establishment of a civilian inmate labor program under development by the Department of the Army. The document states, "Enclosed for your review and comment is the draft Army regulation on civilian inmate labor utilization" and the procedure to "establish civilian prison camps on installations."
Amid widespread rumors, Congressman Henry Gonzales clarified the question of the existence of civilian detention camps. In an interview, Gonzalez stated, "The truth is yes--you do have these stand by provisions, and the plans are here . . . whereby you could, in the name of stopping terrorism . . . evoke the military and arrest Americans and put them in detention camps."
Pierre Tristam's 11/26/02 editorial in the Daytona Beach News Journal blew the lid off the Homeland Security Department.
"The New Deal was a 'reorganization' or an 'expansion' of government. The creation of the Homeland Security Department is a coup within the government. What Ollie North once did illegally in a White House basement - free-lancing policy with public money and accountability to no one - a $37 billion department with 170,000 employees will now do legally in what is sure to be a high-rise of basements and metaphorical windows on Washington's Bureaucracy Row. Like a Wall Street firm beholden only to its board room, the second-largest government department is now a proprietary arm of the presidency. It operates beyond congressional scrutiny and public accountability, and guarantees secrecy to its own machinations or to those of any private business with which it deals.
"Let's say Kafka Inc. were a company that made surveillance cameras the government was installing at a few thousand intersections. Kafka's products happen to be pathetically faulty, as such devices commonly are. The public would be outraged if it knew. But all Kafka would have to do to keep its products' evaluations from becoming public is submit them to the Department of Homeland Security, where everything is to be kept secret by law. What Kafka does, every other company or hospital or airline or even local sheriff's department can do with any proposal, any budget item, any safety plan made part of the homeland security racket. The department, in other words, is a black hole to the Freedom of Information Act - everything goes in, nothing gets out."
On Sunday, November 10th, the New York Times announced that 200,000 to 250,000 troops would be used to attack Iraq, while 265,000 National Guard and Reserve personnel would be called to active duty--MOST OF WHICH WILL BE DEPLOYED IN THE UNITED STATES! Is Bush at war with Iraq or with American citizens?


 
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