"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
posted on August 26, 2003 12:19:55 PM new
LOL helen! And people wonder why there are so many different religions
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
posted on August 26, 2003 12:43:22 PM new
At this point, it seems pretty obvious that there's no real treatment or cure for pedophiles, and I doubt this problem will go away, so how do we deal with them when they are the most hated bunch of people going? Why does death or life in prison seem to be the only answer, when 'barbaric' acts such as castration would actually be more humane?
posted on August 26, 2003 12:49:17 PM newwhen 'barbaric' acts such as castration would actually be more humane?
Because castration will take away sexual urgings, and they just 'cannot do it' pedophila is not a 'sexual disorder' (if you can call it a disorder) nor is rape, as they have studied it, its more a control and violent act than sexual.
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posted on August 26, 2003 01:05:56 PM new
There should NOT be any special treatments for these creeps in prison. "You do the crime, you do the time." They know what they are doing is wrong, yet they do it anyway.
I am so disgusted with the arguement that these POSs (thank you for the word, twelve) are sick - that it's an illness. Wrong is wrong is wrong. Why is it that people are so quick to claim illness when it comes down to accepting responsibilities for their actions? They aren't sorry for what they are done - they are sorry they got caught.
Sexually molesting a child is inexcuseable. PERIOD.
Yes, I do fault the Church; but ultimately, this pig made the conscious choice to use innocent children to fulfill his perverse needs.
From what I have read about the social structure of prisons, pedophiles are on the bottom - the scum - and rightly so. Sort of ironic, isn't it? They prey on helpless children - children who can't defend themselves against these perverts...and in the end, these perverts find themselves in a similar situation.
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
I always LOVE reading these threads where those who profess no belief in any God, throw words from the Bible at us that do. Really gives me a good laugh.
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Helen - "What would Jesus do?" LOL
"What a spectacular display of compassion." Helen....my compassion rests with the victims and their families of these criminals. Feel free to support the criminals all you wish.
If you judge my lack of sympathy for criminals who rape children as a lack of compassion that's your issue, not mine.
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"Jesus Christ would be sorely embarrased by you so-called "Christians". And you know this HOW?????? Did he tell you this?????
LOL You say we shouldn't judge? You quote "Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone." Sounds to me like you take that to mean we should just totally get rid of our judicial system? No need for police, prosecutors, judges, juries, etc. according to you. LOL Yes, humans do and always have sat in judgement of one another. If we didn't we'd have all these sicko's running around loose rather than having a discussion about how unprotect/mistreated they are.
And it appears to me the non-religious feel quite comfortable throwing 'stones' at Christians. No matter the subject....our faith is called on the line by those who have no faith.
posted on August 26, 2003 03:30:02 PM new
the Old Testament, lech, is part of the Bible
Your hate keeps me happy - happy that I'm not you
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
posted on August 26, 2003 03:40:47 PM new
You "Christians are LIARS, convicted by your words of hate.
Chrst implored us to Love our Neighbor, turn the other cheek, Love God, yet( But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you ) you Hate another one of God's children and glory and celebrate his murder.
1 John 2:4 - He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1 John 4:20 - If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?
posted on August 26, 2003 03:57:34 PM new
Good Grief - so we are now attacking ach others religious interpretations?
Helen - Although the church enabled his reign of molestation, had he had even the smallest degree of regret for his actions he would have asked to be taken from a position that put him into contact with future victims. He did not. I do not blame the church as a whole but I do think that thode that knew of his proclivities and did not have him transfered should be prosecuted as well.
I think that there are going to be some ripple in the prison after this one. Since the gaurds were warned in advance that this was something being planned, one of the two should have been transferred into a differnt section. The fact however remains that he was a high profile scumbag in a violent community. Too believe that his days were anything but numbered is niave.
Prison systems are understaffed, under budgeted and over populated. Unless you want tax increases that situation is not going to change. Unless of course we become a little more liberal with the death penalty .... but that's a whole nother arguement
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posted on August 26, 2003 03:57:57 PM new
But God is YOUR Judge and you are disappointing him every day with your HATE.
And where in your pea-brained little mind did you get that I supported child-molestors. Are you just a retarded little punk? No where can you even find ANY statement saying I supported him! But you spout sh!t from your mouth because YOU GOT NOTHING! You are a liar,
And you call youself christian. Satan has more respect for Jesus Christ than you do.....
You just support the vigilante murders of humans, so you must LOVE Saddam.
posted on August 26, 2003 03:59:55 PM new
lecher - seems you need to get a refund from Dale Carnegie
"Be kind. Remember everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle." - Harry Thompson
"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to a man who rises and sleeps under the blanket of the very freedom I provide and then questions the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
posted on August 26, 2003 04:57:48 PM new
So KD since mlecher directed that post in response to mine, are you saying you see me or any of my comments as hateful? If so, I'd like to know what exactly I said that leads you to believe that?
posted on August 26, 2003 05:04:57 PM new
Oh God said to Abraham, "Kill me a son"
Abe says, "Man, you must be puttin' me on"
God say, "No." Abe say, "What?"
God say, "You can do what you want Abe, but
The next time you see me comin' you better run"
Well Abe says, "Where do you want this killin' done?"
God says, "Out on Highway 61."
Well Georgia Sam he had a bloody nose
Welfare Department they wouldn't give him no clothes
He asked poor Howard where can I go
Howard said there's only one place I know
Sam said tell me quick man I got to run
Ol' Howard just pointed with his gun
And said that way down on Highway 61.
Well Mack the Finger said to Louie the King
I got forty red white and blue shoe strings
And a thousand telephones that don't ring
Do you know where I can get rid of these things
And Louie the King said let me think for a minute son
And he said yes I think it can be easily done
Just take everything down to Highway 61.
Now the fifth daughter on the twelfth night
Told the first father that things weren't right
My complexion she said is much too white
He said come here and step into the light he says hmm you're right
Let me tell the second mother this has been done
But the second mother was with the seventh son
And they were both out on Highway 61.
Now the rovin' gambler he was very bored
He was tryin' to create a next world war
He found a promoter who nearly fell off the floor
He said I never engaged in this kind of thing before
But yes I think it can be very easily done
We'll just put some bleachers out in the sun
And have it on Highway 61.
posted on August 26, 2003 06:42:59 PM new
To those who are unbelievers, all of that are just WORDS, something I don't care if you write all day... you have already shown you have no faith in anything.
posted on August 26, 2003 09:33:58 PM new
Sorry Linda - my post had nothing to do with you! I thought mlecher's line was more of a blanket statement to all that call themselves Christians but are quick to show their hateful side. Especially when you'd think it would be the other way around with the non-Christians being hateful and the Christians being compassionate.
- Harry Thompson
