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 orleansgallery
 
posted on August 29, 2003 11:09:12 AM new
Kraft--- I WAS DIVA BEFORE DIVA WAS COOL MAN!


so the only answer is to find all the commandments of every religion on the face of the earth and post them in the lobby of the courthouse! LIKE ITS A NO BRAINER MAN!



[ edited by orleansgallery on Aug 29, 2003 11:10 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 29, 2003 11:12:59 AM new
orleansgallery - You forgot to include, on your list, someone to organize all those bottles of nail polish.
 
 orleansgallery
 
posted on August 29, 2003 11:14:42 AM new
well actually that ALABAMA JUDGE is going to do that for me while he is suspended.. YOU KNOW BEING FELLOW ALABAMIANS


THE SOUTH WILL RISE AGAIN! ESPECIALLY IF I"M STANDING CLOSE BY!
[ edited by orleansgallery on Aug 29, 2003 11:15 AM ]
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on August 29, 2003 11:16:29 AM new
LOL
 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on August 29, 2003 11:25:20 AM new
Kraft, she's right, orleansgallery was a Diva, before Diva even became fashionable

Go Orleansgallery




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 kraftdinner
 
posted on August 29, 2003 11:41:10 AM new
Well, if that's the case Near, she needs a new title. One more fitting to the times. Since Sybil's already taken, I'll have to think of something else.




 
 orleansgallery
 
posted on August 29, 2003 12:21:07 PM new
Diva is not a title! you silly thing, it is a state of being, it is determined at birth. Some people are born the be hardy pioneers types and some are born to be pampered. I of course am the latter.

There are other types of being as well, such as eternal nagging crank, politically obsessed no lifer, genuine caring humanitarian, revolutionary etc etc.

Being is not to be confused with traumatic emotional abuse that results in the fragmentation of the being.

I am CONCENTRATED, fully focused, formidable, and fashionable.


 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on August 29, 2003 12:41:08 PM new
Kraft, see, she summed it all up quite nicely.

I do not think she is a Sybil at all, how could you think that?


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 colin
 
posted on August 31, 2003 04:50:13 AM new
What are the "Muslim equivalent of the 10 commandments"....?
Amen,
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 rivercity1
 
posted on September 1, 2003 06:37:21 PM new
This discussion over the 10 commandments in a court house is really kind of sad and funny at the same time.

Sad, because a large part of the population is tearing apart relationships with one another over a large piece of rock, stone, granite, whatever that was placed on public property.

Funny, because after retiring from law enforcement, and going to a lot of different court houses in different states, my first impression of a court house is:
Where are the rest rooms and where is the elevator?

I don't remember ever looking around and commenting on what was in the rotunda or looking at the walls to see who was pictured.
Most of the time if something was in the center of the room, or again the wall, it was holding up brief cases, file folders, or people standing waiting to get a seat.

I sometimes marveled at the wood work and the fine craftsmanship of the marble on the floors, but never looked around to see if the 10 commandments were in the middle of the floor. Guess I must have missed something in my 66 years.




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 drkosmos
 
posted on September 2, 2003 10:07:48 AM new
do people REALLY need someone to tell them not to kill, not to steal, etc..? I am an atheist and I don't need someone to tell me not to kill! It seems it's only the "Christians" and other organized religions that want to kill others if others don't follow their beliefs.


'save yourself, nobody is coming'

 
 colin
 
posted on September 3, 2003 03:57:09 AM new
Do atheist have funerals? Do they get the deceased all dressed up?

It's a sad thought to be all dressed up and no where to go. Better keep your options open.
Amen,
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 gravid
 
posted on September 3, 2003 05:17:33 AM new
It is typical of people to start to argue that if I don't want to see the government support a particular Christian religion I must want to see nude parades with people groping each other.

One does not follow the other. It is a dishonest
smear tactic to claim to pull in all these emotionally sensational unrelated things. Just because I don't agree with you on one thing gives you no right to assume much about me or my motives.

In fact I don't want my religion contaminated by the smudged fat little paw of government.
Everything they touch is dirtied or ruined.
The only thing government has to offer religion is money and protection. Both tend to corrupt.
In fact I would say that if a religion seeks these things from a government it is already corrupted.





 
 msincognito
 
posted on September 3, 2003 02:17:21 PM new
I wonder about this whole debate ....

...Has anyone looked at the 10 Commandments? I mean, really? How can Moore suggest that "Remember the Sabbath Day and keep it holy" is the law of the land? Or "Thou shalt not make unto me any graven image?" (That basically wipes out Catholicism in one blow, folks.) "Thou shalt not covet anything that is thy neighbor's?" The American version is more like "Thou shalt keep up with the Joneses."

You can make a case for limited religious text in public settings. The Supreme Court of the United States has the 10 commandments displayed ... as part of a frieze that illustrates the history of law. The question is, was Moore trying to illustrate and educate - or was he trying to espouse his particular view of Christianity? If you read the decisions, there's plenty of evidence to support the latter.

As far as this being a state's rights case, it's not. The First Amendment does say "Congress." But the Fourteenth Amendment clearly states: "No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. " The Bill of Rights governs actions by states as well.

Even if that were the case, Alabama's OWN Constitution has the same protection, which you can read for yourself:

http://www.legislature.state.al.us/CodeOfAlabama/Constitution/1901/CA-245534.htm

gravid is right. Religous protection is a two-way street, and must be protected from government, maybe even more than government needs to be protected from religion.
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We do not see things as they are. We see them as we are.
------------The Talmud
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 NearTheSea
 
posted on September 3, 2003 02:41:10 PM new
Help! LOL, not being nitpicky gravid, but the 10 Commandants were PRE Christ, meaning PRE CHRISTIANITY, they are from the OLD TESTAMENT, so they would fall more under the Jewish religion , or Judaism.

ok carry on




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