Linda_K
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posted on November 4, 2003 09:08:20 AM new
There is no sign that international terrorism is at all influenced by Saddam Hussein or connected either financially or in terms of human beings.
Really???? lol Guess those $25,000.00 payments to the families of the Palestinians that Saddam made to those suicide bombers didn't show he was supporting one side against the other, huh? Right.....
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Helenjw
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posted on November 4, 2003 09:20:47 AM new
That is a quote from the Guardian article in which the author stated the belief that our goal in Iraq is to protect Israel. Your observation would support that idea.
Helen
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Helenjw
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posted on November 4, 2003 12:14:35 PM new
That's an interesting theory.
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2003 01:05:33 PM new
Helen, do you think my questions were worded wrong? I appreciate all the help from the 'left', but I was hoping to hear the opinions of Bear, Twelve, Colin, et al... the ones who are so outspoken about me/us being wrong about Bush. I don't want to make an ass of myself by believing lies, so please tell me why 18 months to check known WOMD sites?
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Helenjw
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posted on November 4, 2003 01:26:40 PM new
I thought it was an excellent question, KD.
That's why I kept repeating it. No answer from Linda either.
Helen
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2003 01:37:35 PM new
I imagine when/if Linda speaks, they'll suddenly all have formed an opinion. 
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Linda_K
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posted on November 4, 2003 02:05:18 PM new
helen - Your observation would support that idea. I sure hope not. Because if the writer of that article didn't see the connection I just mentioned, between Saddam and supporting terrorist, then that doesn't say much for what else he's most likely 'not getting'.
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Gee KD, you think everyone has the answers to each question you pose? Since I know nothing about an 18 month time frame, I didn't answer. I haven't read nor heard about such a time frame.
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 4, 2003 02:09 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2003 02:10:00 PM new
Just poking fun at you Linda! I've noticed a trend where certain 'righties' won't say anything until you've voiced your opinion(s).
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Helenjw
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posted on November 4, 2003 02:28:36 PM new
Brings new meaning to the phrase, The blind leading the blind.
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Linda_K
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posted on November 4, 2003 02:36:07 PM new
oh yes....that statement coming from a woman who wants our country to put it's tail between it's legs and RUN.....
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2003 02:42:18 PM new
OK, forget the 18 month time frame. Why haven't 10 suspected WOMD sites been checked yet to substanciate Bush's claim of WOMD in Iraq? Or was that part of the faulty intelligence also??
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Linda_K
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posted on November 4, 2003 02:52:47 PM new
Here KD, read this. Maybe it might answer a lot of your questions.
And remember, we were still finding things in Europe many, many years after WWII.
And the left was willing to give Saddam 12 years of game playing, etc. Now you demand, within a few short months time frame, a total accounting. A little unreasonable, imo.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/public_affairs/speeches/2003/david_kay_10022003.html
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2003 03:19:46 PM new
I should have been a speech writer!
Key papers ruined/lost in looting process...
SIGNS of wanting nuclear capabilties (forgot to mention Iraq wanting to use nuclear generators for electricity)...
A PICTURE of some vials...
Etc.
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Helenjw
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posted on November 4, 2003 03:21:33 PM new
oh yes....that statement coming from a woman who wants our country to put it's tail between it's legs and RUN.....
My suggestion was to admit defeat and leave as soon as possible and by as soon as possible, I pointed out that I did not mean to leave immediately in an irresponsible manner. That's what I really said, lindak....
Helen
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Linda_K
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posted on November 4, 2003 04:09:14 PM new
helen - Just saying you think we should admit defeat....pretty much says all that needs to be said. And it also explains a lot of the opinions you post here.
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austbounty
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posted on November 4, 2003 06:46:28 PM new
American ‘right’ is not ready to pull out yet.
When much more tax payer’s money has been spent and lives lost, Us Health Care & Education and other Public Services have declined much further, and there are even more enemies than ever before, with greater loss of privacy and liberties at home for all;
Then they may change their tune.
Many more slaps in the face are required before Linda, Bear, 12, ebayguy, nearthesea, and the other extremists change their tune.
I think that UN’s best move, to curb US Imperialism (that’s what it is),
is to offer little support and let the pressure drive home.
But some skulls are so thick that huge slaps will be needed to sink through.
Note how the discussion of WOMD evidence (basis for war) has been forgotten.
The right might agree me with when I say;
The loss of some US & AU & UK lives is acceptable if peace and justice is to be achieved.
It’s got little to do with evidence for some like Linda, more concerned with ‘not admitting defeat’ than true or false, right or wrong
It seem the case with enlightenment (some more than others); ‘no pain no gain’.
No, … Don’t pull out just yet.
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austbounty
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posted on November 4, 2003 06:55:31 PM new
US war crimes in Iraq
The United States is knowingly violating Article 54 of the Geneva Convention which prohibits any country from undermining "objects indispensable to the survival of (another country's) civilian population," including drinking water installations and supplies
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Twelvepole
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:01:05 PM new
Dorks don't need an explaination... not smart enough to understand...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
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kraftdinner
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:28:24 PM new
Twelve, at least I wasn't raised by chipmunks in an abandoned raccoon nest outside my birth parent's trailer...
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austbounty
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posted on November 4, 2003 07:33:37 PM new
America Used UN Veto to Protect Israeli War Crimes – 24 Times
& more
 Torturing John Walker
“if a battlefield prisoner hasn’t spilled the beans inside 48 hours, chances are there are no useful beans left to spill. At that stage, Special Forces and other military units ship the captured enemy off to a normal prisoner-of-war facility. Put simply, soldiers are not “into” extended sensory deprivation, and other obscene forms of torture favored by psychiatrists”
“film and catch the sound of CIA operative Mike Spann torturing “American Taliban” John Walker. Not long after that, someone chucked the so-called Taliban a few grenades which they used to stage a revolt against their captors, who at that time were gleefully pouring oil on the Taliban prisoners and lighting it with matches. A little later, the CIA’s Mike Spann was reportedly beaten to death”
http://www.geocities.com/torturevictims/kandahar.html
[ edited by austbounty on Nov 4, 2003 07:37 PM ]
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austbounty
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posted on November 4, 2003 08:01:12 PM new
Some Americans like to pretend that it's OK for their taxes to fund Zionist atrocities. That is partly why American tax-payers are now targets for terrorism.
[ edited by austbounty on Nov 4, 2003 08:22 PM ]
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