NearTheSea
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posted on December 13, 2003 10:23:29 PM new
I am getting off this thing, but that would be interesting to talk about!!!!!!!! LOL
How bout it, maybe tommorow Helen? 
(there are some posts that I never catch before you edit, and I'd love to know what they did say )
nite!
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Helenjw
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posted on December 13, 2003 10:32:33 PM new
Now weird winda is accusing me of doing sinister edits?
Hahaha!!!
Good Lord, what next?
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Linda_K
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posted on December 13, 2003 11:32:38 PM new
I don't know if or how sinister they are/were....but you have previously denied editing for anything except spelling, grammar and to 'make things clearer'.
Here's just one thread. I picked it because it has three edits you made in just one thread. Two complete edits and one edit made about a 1/2 hour after you made the post. Very, very common occurrance.
That's why I won't go 'hunt' for your old posts anymore, helen, to 'prove' something I've said....because it's likely to have been edited out or changed....either than same day...or even *DAYS* later.
posted on July 22, 2002 07:01:07 AM
Nevermind [ edited by Helenjw on Jul 22, 2002 07:37 AM ]
"Was It Evil To Bomb This Poor Country" thread.
posted on July 21, 2002 02:29:16 PM
[ edited by Helenjw on Jul 21, 2002 08:33 PM ]
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kcpick4u
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posted on December 13, 2003 11:44:22 PM new
I think you both should be concerned that each others health care needs are being met. Without the Helen and Linda show this board might just wither away!
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Linda_K
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posted on December 13, 2003 11:52:36 PM new
lol What the heck are you doing up so late anyway?
I know...it is really sad we don't have more posting here.
And I LOVE to give helen a hard time. Keeps her on her "intellectual" toes ...or is that her pedestal? I'm not sure.
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Helenjw
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posted on December 14, 2003 06:16:28 AM new
kpick4u.
"I think you both should be concerned that each others health care needs are being met."
I am very concerned and happy to know that you are concerned also. So many people avoid commenting in order to avoid conflict with a linda harangue. Where, for example, is Cheryl, fenix, and Davebraun and others? I'm sure that they have opinions about this subject.
It's exceedingly frustrating to try to carry on a conversation while fending off linda's incessant bogus charges and silly gossip.
She is a pain in the ass and the reason that I and many others are spending less time here.
Helen
[ edited by Helenjw on Dec 14, 2003 06:23 AM ]
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stopwhining
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posted on December 14, 2003 07:53:37 AM new
i like to know more about the couple who pay 30 plus a month with 5-10 copay for insurance??
is that sweden??
to receive any decent coverage ,it is at least 200-400 a month unless you are a college student??
-sig file -------The thrill is gone!!
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Linda_K
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posted on December 14, 2003 09:25:52 AM new
LOL - bogus, helen???? It's a FACT that you go back and edit your posts hours or a few times, days later. Sure makes it easier to say one didn't say something...and ask for 'proof' when the statements have been edited. And I'm not talking about the edits you do within a few minutes of making the posts. We all do those.
posted on April 28, 2003 08:49:22 PM
"There was a time when......."
"Seems that anything is allowed now......"
"It's beginning to remind me of another place and as a result, I don't spend so much time here anymore.
Helen
ed to correct smut to scum. edited by Helenjw on Apr 28, 2003 11:02 PM
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"I don't spend so much time here anymore."
You've said that before too....
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Helenjw
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posted on December 14, 2003 09:55:25 AM new
[EDITED BY LindaK ON DECEMBER 15, 2003 12:55]
Just a little something for linda to enjoy.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 14, 2003 10:35:37 AM new
helen - Glad to see you're no longer denying it, this time.
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NearTheSea
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posted on December 14, 2003 10:40:17 AM new
stopwhining, when they lost their 'main'income, which was a gift shop specializing in Polish pottery, she found this State Basic Ins. its in WA state. And no, its not medicaid. They go by what your income is, and charge from there.
They now of course sell on ebay
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 14, 2003 11:40:07 AM new
Hey, HEY!!! Stop your arguing! Helen is one of my favorite posters and I feel I must defend her from the claws of you two catwomen!
Again Helen... don't listen to these jealous hens. They're both threatened by your superior beauty and intellegence and can find no other way to get even with you. It's a curse you must live with, I'm afraid.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 14, 2003 11:47:06 AM new
LOL KD - Yes, someone must come to helen's defense.....but I thought it was *you* who so opposed name calling? Maybe I'm wrong. Has that changed....or is it just according to who's doing the name calling?
We just must post the 'game' rules. 
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Helenjw
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posted on December 14, 2003 11:54:19 AM new
Yes, Kraftdinner...
The combination of beauty and brains is a tough cross to bear, as you know so well too. I'm in touch with their jealous motives.
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NearTheSea
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posted on December 14, 2003 12:14:33 PM new
I've never been called a Catwoman before... hmmmm, not sure I like it, but I could get used to it... how bout you Linda?
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeowwwwwwwww
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Linda_K
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posted on December 14, 2003 12:30:26 PM new
NTS - How 'bout me? Well...I certainly don't see you that way. Not at all. You have the patience of Job, imo.
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 14, 2003 12:44:17 PM new
LoL Linda!! Can you imagine what you or Helen would do/say if I told you to stop saying certain things, or behaving a certain way?
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Linda_K
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posted on December 14, 2003 12:54:14 PM new
KD - I know you were just teasing with us.
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kraftdinner
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posted on December 14, 2003 02:42:29 PM new
"The combination of beauty and brains is a tough cross to bear, as you know so well too."
I find Helen to be extremely honest as well.
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NearTheSea
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posted on December 14, 2003 03:01:39 PM new
I missed this one:
She is a pain in the ass and the reason that I and many others are spending less time here.
Helen that is so NOT true! If I could dig up threads the way that you can, there are MANY other posters that respect and like Linda, and me included.
It may be that people are spending less time here because its the HOLIDAYS and they are out shopping or other things, wrapping presents, putting up trees, spending time with their families.
I do not see a decrease in YOUR posting here
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stopwhining
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posted on December 20, 2003 06:25:30 AM new
someone said health insurance industry drive cost up.
back in the old days,the patient paid the doctor and then come home and file the claim form.
now the doctor office has to call the insurance company to verify the record,file the claim form,collect the money ,extra work for the clerk and the copy machine.
bigger file cabinets too.
-sig file -------the lobster in the boiling pot of water who tries to prevent the others from climbing out.
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Helenjw
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posted on December 20, 2003 07:02:53 AM new
In addition to that, the health insurance industry depends on high health care costs that most people can't pay to create a market for their product. They make exorbitant profits from high cost premiums while paying doctors and hospitals less that they charge.
Outrageous malpractice premiums also serve to raise costs to raise health care costs.
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Linda_K
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posted on December 20, 2003 07:14:15 AM new
Outrageous malpractice premiums also serve to raise costs to raise health care costs.
And that's because some people are against putting 'caps' on malpractice lawsuits that raise those necessary protections for doctors.
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Helenjw
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posted on December 20, 2003 07:41:57 AM new
Rather than caps only on medical malpractice, how about a cap on the exorbitant premiums with which the insurance industry gouge doctors?
Helen
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Linda_K
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posted on December 20, 2003 08:09:49 AM new
How about a cap on the lawyers fees that drive up the cost of the insurance premiums by filing all these outrageously high lawsuits?
Set a 'cap' on the percentage of their 'take' from the injured. Say 5% instead of the 30-60% they get now. That would reduce insurance premiums greatly.
But....no....can't touch those lawyers. That wouldn't work to well come campaign donation time.
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Helenjw
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posted on December 20, 2003 08:18:30 AM new
"But....no....can't touch those lawyers. That wouldn't work to well come campaign donation time."
The insurance industry is the "untouchable" Linda...surely you know that. In fact, Bush keeps them always in a state of ecstacy.
It's naive to think that caps on malpractice suits would reduce insurance premiums.
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stopwhining
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posted on December 20, 2003 09:15:04 AM new
the insurance companies have not been profitable,for years and years.
doctors are not as affluent as before,driving used mercedes or just a plain honda.some are working beyond their retirement years ,some do without malpractice insurance.
what can we do to stop escalating health care cost?first is to take better care of our body,second is to save some money,there are medical providers who would give us a discount for paying cash.
of course the medical industry can stop researching new drug and we will just keep taking the old aspirin,penicillum etc.
last resort is to come to the conclusion we dont live forever,when it is time to go,it is time to go.
all that life prolonging gadgets just prolong suffering and drain someone's pocket book,in the end we all have to go.
-sig file -------the lobster in the boiling pot of water who tries to prevent the others from climbing out.
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fenix03
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posted on December 20, 2003 10:01:25 AM new
I'm right here and I haven't commented on this thread because it's the first time I've bothered to read it. I have to admit though that I zoned out once I realized that it had become another Helen vs Linda spat. It gets tiring to read thread after thread the denegrates into who said what when as opposed to dealing with the issue.
That said - I do take issue with one thing I read here in the early phase....
::The reason they're cheaper is because their companies don't spend the money for Research and Development for NEW drugs, like our drug companies here do.::
For the most part I think that statement is not quite correct. Much of the opposition that US Drug companies has had against opening the borders of Mexico and Canada for prescription drugs is the issue of reimportation. Many of the drugs in question are developed and even manufactured in the US and then shipped to other countries where they are priced according to what they market will allow. In other cases they are simply manufactured overseas but are still developed in the US.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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Helenjw
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posted on December 20, 2003 11:10:02 AM new
"I'm right here and I haven't commented on this thread because it's the first time I've bothered to read it. I have to admit though that I zoned out once I realized that it had become another Helen vs Linda spat. It gets tiring to read thread after thread the denegrates into who said what when as opposed to dealing with the issue."
Amen to that! I am so happy to see others here making an effort to discuss topics with linda.
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fenix03
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posted on December 20, 2003 11:25:33 AM new
I have to say that Linda and I have debated many an issue on these boards - I enjoy our exchanges because we can differ so vastly in our view on topics without getting into personal confrontations.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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