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 gravid
 
posted on February 11, 2004 08:50:39 AM new
Perhaps if they could force all these other countries back to an economic and technological level they were at in 1919 they would no longer be a threat.
Right now I can make weapons of mass destruction from what I can buy in my town at the grocery store and hardware.

 
 kiara
 
posted on February 11, 2004 09:22:32 AM new
Well what the fluck is killing ONE THIRD of our soldiers if it's not "hostile action" ? Do any of you know?? Do any of you care???

If you look at the CNN link that was posted you will see the causes of death under "Details".

Many are from vehicle accidents, some are from training exercises, some are non-hostile gunshot wounds which could be accidents or possibly suicide, I read that one soldier died in his sleep, other incidents are still under investigation.

It makes me wonder how well the soldiers were trained for the conditions they have to face.

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From the Meet the Press Interview:

Russert: Are you surprised by the level and intensity of resistance?

President Bush: No, I'm not. And the reason I'm not surprised is because there are people in that part of the world who recognize what a free Iraq will mean in the war on terror. In other words, there are people who desperately want to stop the advance of freedom and democracy because freedom and democracy will be a powerful long-term deterrent to terrorist activities.
See, free societies are societies that don't develop weapons of mass terror and don't blackmail the world.

If I could share some stories with you about some of the people I have seen from Iraq, the leaders from Iraq, there is no question in my mind that people that I have seen at least are thrilled with the activities we've taken. There is a nervousness about their future, however.

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This is straying of topic but I have to ask if President Bush isn't surprised by the level and intensity of resistance, why weren't they better prepared when they went into Iraq? Why did they allow so much of the basic infrastructure such as hospitals and schools to be destroyed?


 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 11, 2004 10:09:00 AM new

"This is straying of topic but I have to ask if President Bush isn't surprised by the level and intensity of resistance, why weren't they better prepared when they went into Iraq? Why did they allow so much of the basic infrastructure such as hospitals and schools to be destroyed?"


Good question...They were prepared and successful in protecting the oil fields. Other destroyed infrastructure was a project for Halliburton and Bechtel.

 
 Helenjw
 
posted on February 11, 2004 11:09:53 AM new
So, who wins? Bush's corporate friends.


Who loses from this besides the dead?

The American taxpayers who will pay for this war which is nothing but corporate welfare.

Other countries similar to Iraq will lose their independent right to exist in this world without fear from the United States only because they may have the "capacity" to develop weapons.

The Iraqi people -- captives in their country who cannot even compete with the U.S. to rebuild the destruction of their own country.




 
 plsmith
 
posted on February 11, 2004 06:12:27 PM new
As of Wednesday, Feb. 11, 535 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq, according to the Department of Defense.


- Air Force Master Sgt. Jude C. Mariano, 39, Vallejo, Calif.; died Tuesday in Doha, Qatar, of injuries from a vehicle accident; assigned to the 615th Air Mobility Operations Squadron, Travis Air Force Base, Calif.

- Army Sgt. Thomas D. Robbins, 27, Schenectady, N.Y.; killed Monday in Sinjar, Iraq when munitions exploded; assigned to Troop A, 1st Squadron, 14th Cavalry Regiment (Stryker), Fort Lewis, Wash.

- Army Sgt. Elijah Tai Wah Wong, 42, Mesa, Ariz.; killed Monday in Sinjar when munitions exploded; assigned to the 363rd Explosive Ordnance Company, Army National Guard, Casa Grande, Ariz.


 
 plsmith
 
posted on February 12, 2004 05:19:55 PM new
The imprecise calculations of the Pentagon continue:

As of Thursday, Feb. 12, 536 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq, according to the Department of Defense.


- Two Task Force 1st Armored Division soldiers were killed Wednesday by a roadside bomb in Baghdad.


By my reckoning, based on the last DOD casualty report of two soldiers killed Wednesday, that would bring the total-to-date up to 537. Egad, to think that the people running this hideous war can't even do simple math...


 
 plsmith
 
posted on February 17, 2004 02:37:43 PM new
As of Tuesday, Feb. 17, 540 U.S. service members have died since the beginning of military operations in Iraq, according to the Department of Defense. Of those, 374 died as a result of hostile action and 166 died of non-hostile causes, the department said.

Latest identifications reported by the military:

- The status of 1st Lt. Adam G. Mooney, 28, Cambridge, Md., was listed as duty status unknown on Jan. 25 in Mosul, Iraq, when his helicopter went down in the Tigris River; his remains were recovered Feb.14. Mooney was assigned to the 1st Battalion, 10th Aviation (Fort Drum); in support of mission requirements, he was attached to 3rd Squadron, 17th Cavalry, 10th Mountain Division, Fort Drum, N.Y.

- Pfc. Nichole M. Frye, 19, of Lena, Wis., killed Monday in Baqubah, Iraq, when an explosive struck her convoy; assigned to Company A, 415th Civil Affairs Battalion, U.S. Army Reserve, Kalamazoo, Mich.

- Spc. Eric U. Ramirez, 31, of San Diego, Calif., killed Feb. 12 in Abu Gireb, Iraq, when he was attacked by small arms fire and an explosive; assigned to the 670th Military Police Company, Army National Guard, National City, Calif.

- Pvt. Bryan N. Spry, 19, of Chestertown, Md., killed Feb. 13 in Baghdad when his vehicle rolled into a ditch. Spry was assigned to Company A, 2-504th Infantry, 82nd Airborne Division, Fort Bragg, N.C.

 
 kiara
 
posted on March 6, 2004 07:25:12 PM new
There have been 648 coalition deaths, 551 Americans, 59 Britons, five Bulgarians, one Dane, 17 Italians, two Poles, 10 Spaniards, two Thai and one Ukrainian, in the war as of March 5, 2004. The casualty list below reflects the names of the soldiers, Marines, airmen and sailors whose families have been notified of their deaths by each country's government. This list is updated regularly. There have been 3,146 Americans wounded in the war, according to the Pentagon.

http://www.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2003/iraq/forces/casualties/

 
 Bear1949
 
posted on March 6, 2004 08:28:55 PM new
Yet in the month of February, American deaths (20) showed a dramatic reduction. (Indicating we are gaining the upper hand).

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/SumDetails.aspx?hndRef=2-2004


Military Fatalities: By Time Period:

http://lunaville.org/warcasualties/Summary.aspx

Since Fall of Baghdad:

425 Dead 3100 Wounded










The Democrats ran on 'Honesty' and I told 'em at the time they would never get anywhere. It was too radical for politics. The Republicans ran on 'Common Sense' and the returns showed that there were 8 million more people in the United States who had 'Common Sense' enough not to believe that there was 'Honesty' in politics." --Will Rogers



[ edited by Bear1949 on Mar 6, 2004 08:32 PM ]
[ edited by Bear1949 on Mar 6, 2004 08:38 PM ]
 
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