posted on February 23, 2004 05:42:12 PM new
Linda:
Not sure if you missed my post or not, but I would like to hear your interpretation of the information found in the link you posted. I may be wrong.
Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge
posted on February 24, 2004 04:33:18 AM new
Logan, no problem on the typo (knew it was anyway). I just merely exhausted any more comments on this subject and posted something totally irrevelent. Just like this post.lol.
posted on February 27, 2004 07:24:49 AM new
Interesting fact:
Exit polls from the 2000 election indicated that about 1 million gay people voted for Bush, or about 25 percent of gays who cast ballots.
"Those million gay votes are gone. People are just beside themselves," the activist said. "Those voters in 2000 are dealing with a whole new set of facts now. There is nothing for gays now."
I guess Bush is not going to get the gay vote this time.
Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge
posted on February 27, 2004 11:49:24 AM new
Logan, this must be a really stupid question, but how do they know one is gay from the exit polls? Is there a place to tick off your sexual preference? I havent voted in so long, but I dont remember that.
btw, kudos to your cause. I hear another mayor of a city also opened up the licensing bureau to gay marriages.
I will admit I go back on forth on my feelings about it. But I will say it did not bother me in the least to see Rosie and her girlfriend get married. But -- I figured out something; it bothers me to see one partner as groom and one as bride. Feels to me when gay couples do that, it seems like a mocking of hetero weddings. And maybe it is. Maybe its a kinda in your face thing. But if gays want this to be taken seriously, maybe they shouldnt do that because they still have to rely on large part of support and acceptance from the heteros.
posted on February 27, 2004 11:59:20 AM new
Neroter12,
I asked myself that same question. How do they know who is stright and who is gay? This was based on exit polls so I am not sure if they came out and asked people directly or not. I doubt it was done like that, but you never know.
I found it hard to believe that many gay people voted for Bush in 2000.
Where did you see one person being the bride and one person being the groom? I haven't been to gay wedding yet so I really can't say for sure if the ceremony uses the same wording that is found with a straight couple.
Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge
posted on February 27, 2004 02:18:26 PM new
Logan, they showed it on the news several times with different couples.
I mean, I know some gays are just so flamboyant and thats part of the nature. Mostly I can laugh with it, but then I remember marriage is a serious cookie (like peak freans) and I wonder why some are making it so frivolous, if it is truly serious issue to them?
:;shrug:: But I honestly dont care. None of the controversy or resolution is gonna shield my hide from what I have to deal with in life.
posted on February 27, 2004 02:35:25 PM new
lol no, Kiara, I cant say I've seen that as yet. But they do keep showing film of SF with lesbian couples - one in a bride gown and one in the typical male groom tuxedo. I just dont get it. Why dress like a man if youre a woman in love with a woman???
posted on February 27, 2004 03:05:04 PM newApathy... continues to ruin this country...
Apathy means lack of interest or lack of concern. Are you trying to tell Nero and I that we are apathetic because we don't know about the roles that gays take on with one another and we didn't bother to learn about it?
If so, please inform us. You seem to have a wealth of knowledge on this subject and as you can see, we are shaking our heads wondering about certain things.
posted on February 27, 2004 03:30:53 PM new
lol. right on the money, kiara!
I guess because I said I dont care above. But thats not apathy, twelve. That is me living MY life and whatever the hel! gay couples want do with THEIR life is their business.
Kiara, I guess thats the idea behind the outfits. But then when you have so many more like twelve dole here for which mere costuming conjures up the hate, violence and sheer lividness that it does, it is frightening. Forget about apathetic. I bet the FBI is watching you tweleve. The name Timothy McVie rolls into mind.
posted on February 27, 2004 03:42:25 PM new
Twelve just so you know, only two Provinces in Canada have allowed gay marriages. There is going to be an election there too so both countries are quite similar in some ways.
I think only about half the people in Canada agree about allowing gay marriages. They have guns in Canada also but somehow I don't think they'll be taking them out and causing bloodshed over the gay marriage issue.
I do forsee bloodshed over this... there are stronger convictions than mine and they won't be stopped by man's law to correct this...
Not sure if that's your solution to stopping it but trust me, it won't work. You make it sound like "Twelvepole's law" rules. Sorry, it doesn't. You should step back and try to think rationally instead of being blinded by hatred.
BTW, I see that some gays are getting married in NY today.
posted on February 27, 2004 04:47:41 PM new
Poll: Gay Marriage Is Big Voter Issue
Fri Feb 27, 3:33 PM ET
By WILL LESTER, Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON - Gay marriage is a more powerful social issue for voters than either abortion or gun control, a new poll suggests.
Four in 10 voters say they would not vote for a candidate who disagrees with them on gay marriage, even if they agree with the candidate on most other issues, according to a poll released Friday by the Pew Research Center for the People & the Press.
Only a third in the poll, 34 percent, felt they would not vote for a candidate who disagrees with them on abortion even if they agree on other issues and 32 percent who felt that way about a candidate who disagrees with them on gun control.
President Bush (news - web sites) says he will back a constitutional amendment that would ban legal gay marriages, a position certain to make gay marriage a hot topic of debate during the presidential campaign. Democratic front-runner John Kerry (news - web sites) and lead challenger John Edwards (news - web sites) say they oppose gay marriage, but oppose a constitutional amendment banning those marriages.
Gay marriage is a crucial issue mostly for those who are opponents — especially conservatives, evangelicals and those 65 and over.
People opposed gay marriage by more than a 2-1 margin in the poll, but when asked if they consider a constitutional amendment a top priority, they placed it 21st in a list of 22 possible choices.
Almost half, 45 percent, said they strongly oppose allowing gays and lesbians to marry legally.
The poll of 1,149 voters was taken Feb. 11-16 and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
no problem on the typo (knew it was anyway). I just merely exhausted any more comments on this subject and posted something totally irrevelent. Just like this post.lol.