posted on March 5, 2004 03:49:12 AM new
trai - nice photo & outfit, perfect for any blushing bride. lol But um me in that outfit, well, it would be scary! Sorry to dash your dreams.
Some days, even wearing my lucky rocketship underwear doesn't help. ~ Calvin & Hobbes
This thread started out as about wedding gowns and now has circled around to queers getting married, queers should NEVER be allowed to marry and any evil that befalls them from now on they deserve.
I hardly doubt there is anything that Bear or I could of added to wedding gown threads, however my stance on queers is well known and has not changed one bit nor will it ever... you like the queers up there in coward land so much, take 'em all and be done with it... I am sure you could use all of their "wealth" to pay for all the socialist programs you canucks seem to value there.
What's silly is the idea that queers even think they should be equal to decent hardworking Americans... but then they may get bloodied a bit and then we can see if they if this perceived right is worth dying for.
I know if this does not get reversed, I would no longer suggest to any young man or woman to go into the military to protect the "rights" of queers...
My views are not alone, there are many of us in this country who feel this way...
So kraft you claim to be a loving person... how about inviting all the queers up there to your home..
edited to add: I asked this once and you ifnored it logansdad... I am asking again... are you willing to die for this percieved "right"?
Rights are something you should be willing to die for... privledges are not.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
http://www.nogaymarriage.com/
[ edited by Twelvepole on Mar 5, 2004 05:12 AM ]
posted on March 5, 2004 06:54:50 AM new
Twelve:
edited to add: I asked this once and you ifnored it logansdad... I am asking again... are you willing to die for this percieved "right"?
Rights are something you should be willing to die for... privledges are not.
YES I WOULD. IF THAT IS WHAT WOULD TAKE STOP DISCRIMINATION I WOULD. THIS IS SOMETHING I BELIEVE IN.
Marriage is a Human Right not a Heterosexual Privledge
posted on March 5, 2004 07:58:28 AM new
Twelvepole -- Die for the right to marry? NO.
Throughout history such injustices have been corrected without bloodshed. I don't agree that we should have to die in order to correct such discrimination. If the situation were reversed and heterosexuals were denied the right to marry, I doubt that you would find anyone willing to die for the right or privilege to marry.
Throughout history such injustices have been corrected without bloodshed. In the case of women's right to vote, for example, there was a similar uproar but no woman fell on her sword. As in the right to marry issue, some people feared that women's participation in politics would lead to the end of family life.
You notice that Logan said.."if that's what it takes" when clearly that is not what it takes so don't worry about a "holy war" Lol.
posted on March 5, 2004 10:04:52 AM new"What's silly is the idea that queers even think they should be equal to decent hardworking Americans... but then they may get bloodied a bit and then we can see if they if this perceived right is worth dying for."
What's all this "dying for" stuff? Obviously, you haven't died for anything yet, so what's that all about?
"So kraft you claim to be a loving person"
Where have I ever claimed that? Or could you just tell by my posts?
Here's a question for you. Twelve. If you ever found a bimbo stupid enough to marry you and she wanted to wear white to the wedding, and knowing what a traditionalist you are, would that be OK?
posted on March 5, 2004 02:06:02 PM new
Interesting reading.
The western myth that Asian culture accords little respect to women appears founded on works like Madame Butterfly that pander to chauvinistic fantasies and the hunger for exotic grotesqueries. Such depictions of Asian women are typically drawn from the practices of the lower classes or anomalies created by extreme economic hardships. Images of devalued Asian women are kept alive by bargirl stories of generations of G.I.s who served tours of duty in impoverished, wartorn nations.
Add to that the countless books and articles published each year about Asian women sold into sexual slavery or wealthy Asian men with numerous concubines and mistresses. The truth is, such practices have occurred (and continue to occur to this day) in Europe and even the United States as well. Regardless of time and place, women in the lower classes tend to be victimized to a greater degree.
Comparing apples to apples, middle and upper class Asian families have traditionally placed women on an equal footing with men, albeit in differing roles. "Women hold up half the heavens" is a well-known Asian saying. Western women are expected to take their husband's surnames at marriage. Asian women traditionally keep theirs. In western households women are often placed on an allowance. In Asian households women typically control the finances. Asian women are traditionally expected to observe outward signs of deference to husbands, but in private they are allowed to be as outspoken or even as domineering as their personalities allow. In ironic contrast, western societies expect men to show signs of deference to women in public but are often allowed to be petty tyrants at home. "A man's home is his castle," isn't an Asian saying. Social constraints of duty and respect toward wives have always reached into the Asian home. The truth is that until the past half century western societies have rarely given women the level of value and dignity enjoyed for milennia in Asia.
From the above article I can only conclude that by choosing an Asian woman you will be making a very smart move, Twelvepole. They sound like very intelligent women.
