ebayauctionguy
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posted on March 15, 2004 12:27:00 PM new
If terrorists could vote, who would they vote for? I think we all know the answer.
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Linda_K
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posted on March 15, 2004 12:49:46 PM new
I think we do too. And not just terrorists, but leaders like Jong Il who's been allowing kerry's statements to be broadcast in NK.
And then there's all those 'mysterious' foreign leaders (?) who kerry won't name [must be too ashamed to] who he says want to see him as our nations leader too. Germany's Schroeder did speak out quite quickly that HE wasn't one of them though.  Guess he wanted to clear THAT up REAL fast.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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blairwitch
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posted on March 15, 2004 02:26:31 PM new
Bush hands down. They already got spain to pull out the troops. The terrorists are winning more now than ever. 
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Linda_K
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posted on March 15, 2004 04:43:36 PM new
While searching for another article I came across this in the Washington Times 3-12
And a poll taken by Andres McKenna Polling and Research found that Americans overwhelmingly believe "the terrorists would prefer" Mr. Kerry to win the election.
The poll of 800 registered voters, taken in February, showed 60 percent thought terrorists would be happier with Mr. Kerry, while just 25 percent said the terrorists would prefer Mr. Bush.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Fenix03
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posted on March 15, 2004 08:41:18 PM new
Just curious - Who really gives a damn? Is this really a deciding factor for you? NO more need to weigh the candidates on issues and qualifications.. Just figure out who the guys you don't like will vote for and do the opposite? Or is this just another juvenile attempt at degradation similar to your new turets like rash of "liberals are unamerican" utterances?
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
[ edited by Fenix03 on Mar 15, 2004 08:41 PM ]
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Linda_K
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posted on March 15, 2004 09:51:58 PM new
The issue of who would favor a kerry vs Bush win is being reported in the news. AND so is the fact that kerry is dropping all these little 'hints' that foreign leaders support him for president. I see absolutely no reason these same issues can't be discussed here like everything else that's in the news is.
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Fenix03
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posted on March 15, 2004 10:53:59 PM new
You can't have it both ways. If you think he should not bring up one or that he was wrong for doing it, why bother to bring up the other. Kerry was niave for bringing up foreign leaders that he knew it would be in no ones best interest to mention and EAG is wrong for bringing up this inflamatory irrelevant crap of who would terrorists vote for.
And we wonder why good people don't want to bother with politics. The more you get involved the more you discover what kind of petty small minded people you are supposed to be serving. Look at some of the bright and shining examples we have here. We have the reincarnation of Colin screaming everyting he does not agree with is unamerican as if he is the embodiment of our nations belief system, another on that relies on sophomoric lowest common denominator attempts at humor graphics and irrelevant insults, someone who actually had the shockingly horrendous taste to state that someones life saving hospital procedures were a waste of money because it did not change their differing political views, three people who cannot let a single thread go by without turning a discusion into still another excuse to hurls insults........
Why would anyone actually want to be put thru the press and political wringer in order to gain the grand title of Leader of a nation of these people?
And yes, I am in a rotten mood.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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Linda_K
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posted on March 15, 2004 11:56:44 PM new
fenix - On your mood - We've all been there, done that, you're no different. Welcome to the club...it's called being human. 
On can't have it both ways - I really think you're being over sensitive - toughen up girl - it's going to be a *long* 8 months. Nothing is being discussed that isn't true and in the news.
::Kerry was niave for bringing up foreign leaders that he knew it would be in no ones best interest to mention:: I see it differently. I see it as intentionally trying to put this President in a bad light in every way he possibly can. Bush has taken this crap for months and is now fighting back. Normal politics.
::and EAG is wrong for bringing up this inflamatory irrelevant crap of who would terrorists vote for.::
Again....it's in the news. And Jong Il is allowing broadcasts of what kerry's saying on NKs radio. Don't you question the 'why' of that yourself? Ask yourself if discussing the negatives about one candidate is only wrong when one side does it and not when the other side does the same thing. 'Cause it works both ways on these threads.
::And we wonder why good people don't want to bother with politics:: Imo, there are good people in politics, as well as bad ones. We each choose who we support and 'fight the fight'.
::The more you get involved the more you discover what kind of petty small minded people you are supposed to be serving:: politicians serve us all....the poor...the rich...the educated...the un-educated, etc. But we each are entitled to our views and vote for those who most support how we want to see our government run.
And on your EXTREMELY long, run on sentence [I think you broke my record  ] I too would rather we all discuss our 'sides' of the issues without all the insults, etc. but we cannot control the actions of others, only our own actions. I can't remember a time when this board was any different, though I've often wished it were. But discussing the 'hot' topics of the day usually leads to strong emotions. That's probably why they say discussing politics and religion can end friendships. It's difficult to do without alienating others. And we don't often get to see the personal side of the posters here....discussing things other than politics.
::Why would anyone actually want to be put thru the press and political wringer in order to gain the grand title of Leader of a nation of these people?:: POWER & MONEY
nite...
Re-elect President Bush!!
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ebayauctionguy
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posted on March 16, 2004 12:54:00 AM new
EAG is wrong for bringing up this irrelevant inflamatory crap of who would terrorists vote for.
You think it's wrong to ask who would be tougher on terrorists?? I think your sense of right and wrong is screwed up. I think it's very relevant that terrorists (and North Korea and Iran) would prefer Kerry who will deal with terrorism as a "law enforcement issue" instead of President Bush's all out war on terrorism.
And fenix, this is just for you: Liberals are unAmerican
[ edited by ebayauctionguy on Mar 16, 2004 12:54 AM ]
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Fenix03
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posted on March 16, 2004 01:27:01 AM new
:: I really think you're being over sensitive - toughen up girl - it's going to be a *long* 8 months. Nothing is being discussed that isn't true and in the news::
Really? I caught bits and pieces of the news all day. I most have missed the polling data on the terrorist view on the elections. Is Nader splitting that vote?
::I see it differently. I see it as intentionally trying to put this President in a bad light in every way he possibly can. Bush has taken this crap for months and is now fighting back. Normal politics.::
Of course he was trying to put himself above Bush and honestly - do you believe that his statement was incorrect? Do you believe that he was lying that there are leaders in Europe that would like to see Bush out of office? I stand by my statement, Kerry was stupid to make the statement and politically niave not to believe that it would result in him being asked for answers that it is in no ones best interest to give.
::Again....it's in the news.::
Again? Was this a Gallop or a USA Today poll?
::And Jong Il is allowing broadcasts of what kerry's saying on NKs radio.::
When did the leader of Noth Korea become a terrorist or are we now just saying that anyone that does not fall into line with us politically are terrorists? Is Spain now a terrorist nation?
:on't you question the 'why' of that yourself?::
Bush calls their leader part of the axis of evil and you wonder why they may support his opponent? That's not a big stretch of the imagination Besides - other than a soundbite - what actual, real-world relevance does it have? It's tabloid journalism at it's best and even if it i the above the fold headline of tomorrows Washington Times, it's still not legitimate news any more than the story about the new breed of cats found on Mars that appear on the cover of the Weekly World News is. It's crap. It appeals to the lowest common denominator of intelligence.
::Ask yourself if discussing the negatives about one candidate is only wrong when one side does it and not when the other side does the same thing. 'Cause it works both ways on these threads.::
So this is just a bash and smash forum? If you want to do nothing but bash have at it - I just find it boring. There are no discussions or comparison of ideas. Back in the employment thread you kept inisisting that Kerry had put forth no opinions on job creation and stabilization, you kept insisting over and over that there was nothing so when I dropped in and posted his views from the website you stopped posting. You called outfor the info, I am assuming retty sure that you would not get it and when you did, you had no comment on it. This is not meant as a an attack on you BTW - it's just a single example. I actually enjoy debating with you even though we disagree on just about every subject I can think of.
::politicians serve us all....the poor...the rich...the educated...the un-educated, etc. ::
They are a masochistic bunch aren't they.
::And on your EXTREMELY long, run on sentence [I think you broke my record::
I am the queen! All shall bow down before me!
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 16, 2004 03:02:39 AM new
I see once again you have forgotten those that agree with you and their insults fenix.... that seems to be a trait of these boards...
Dave, Profe, HELEN, kraft, kiara... all usually start the insutling and then when there is a response usally a better response... that is what is looked at...
Yep lets not overlook the real instigators here...
But then again it is a do as I say, not as I do... hmmmmm where have I heard that before...
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gravid
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posted on March 16, 2004 03:32:12 AM new
You are asking basically which will have policies that the terrorists will percieve as favorable to their stratagy.
Bush - because he will continue to poor billions into a futile military confrontation that doesn't work against terrorist movements.
You might as well say he is their best recruiting partner. If he didn't exist they'd have to invent him or borrow Sharon from Israel.
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gravid
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posted on March 16, 2004 03:35:57 AM new
I'd add that military force would work if you'd apply it like the Romans did - depopulate an entire area and lead the remaining small fraction of the population off into slavery.
But nobody has the will to do that anymore even if they have better technology to do it.
Instead the modern war just removes the authorities over a population. If there is a deep cultural divide from which new opposition will arise that doesn't work.
The US has even backed themselves in a corner by loadly saying their war is not with Islam - so they can't do anything when the Imans call for Jihad. If they dragged a few out in the street and shoot them in the back of the head they'd be a little more careful what they say.
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profe51
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posted on March 16, 2004 05:17:42 AM new
Dave, Profe, HELEN, kraft, kiara... all usually start the insutling and then when there is a response usally a better response... that is what is looked at...
I don't know about the others in your list here twelve, but you are mistaken about me. For example, your thread about NCLB opened with an insult aimed at me.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 06:04:02 AM new
Only the posters not insulted by Twelvepole need to worry.
Helen
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 16, 2004 06:44:26 AM new
I see I must drag up past threads to show you are not the angel you are trying to say you are... not that I really care, but seems like people on the left forget about their own postings to point out the wrongs of others...
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 07:09:04 AM new
It's not clear who you are addressing, twelvepole.
Personally, I don't believe in angels. Do you?
I usually do a fair job of defending myself and sometimes others whenever I choose to do so.
Helen
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Fenix03
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posted on March 16, 2004 08:18:30 AM new
::I see once again you have forgotten those that agree with you and their insults fenix.... that seems to be a trait of these boards... ::
Are you sure of that Twelve? I mentioned about six posters but I didn't name any of them.
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 16, 2004 09:22:39 AM new
three people
I see and you get 6 how?
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Fenix03
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posted on March 16, 2004 10:06:14 AM new
1) We have the reincarnation of Colin screaming everyting he does not agree with is unamerican as if he is the embodiment of our nations belief system,
2) another on that relies on sophomoric lowest common denominator attempts at humor graphics and irrelevant insults,
3) someone who actually had the shockingly horrendous taste to state that someones life saving hospital procedures were a waste of money because it did not change their differing political views,
4,5 & 6) three people who cannot let a single thread go by without turning a discusion into still another excuse to hurls insults........
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
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profe51
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posted on March 16, 2004 10:13:48 AM new
Dave, Profe, HELEN, kraft, kiara... all usually start the insutling and then when there is a response usally a better response... that is what is looked at...
I see I must drag up past threads to show you are not the angel you are trying to say you are...
Go for it
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 12:07:34 PM new
Who would terrorists vote for: Bush or Kerry?
They would certainly vote for Bush. After all, he helped them out when he made Iraq a breeding ground for terrorism. He set up a stage for their activity. Plus the terrorists can count on the fact that Bush will not unite the world in an effective effort to "root them out".
What a silly question.
Helen
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 16, 2004 12:32:44 PM new
Twelve, the only person I've ever insulted on this board is you. That's if you include crab, blockhead, and other 3 Stooges-type-names as being insults. If you call being blunt an insult, then you're right about HELEN - she's very insulting. I guess that means Dave, Prof and Kiara are just as bad.
If terrorists could vote?? Give me a break.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 12:38:52 PM new
Kraftdinner,
After my semester in diplomacy you still think I'm blunt? Guess I'll have to sign up again.
Hahaha!
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Reamond
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posted on March 16, 2004 12:42:59 PM new
They would vote for Bush. There have been more terrorist attacks in the 30 months since 9-11 than the 30 months previous to 9-11.
Terrorists have been very effective under Bush.
A vote for Kerry is a vote against terrorism.
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 16, 2004 12:48:44 PM new
I guess so, Helen. Another man that can't handle you... what else is new??
No kidding, Reamond.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 01:05:38 PM new
KD
What man are you talking about? The professor of diplomacy? He had a mental breakdown but it certainly wasn't my fault.
Helen
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 01:10:32 PM new
Before his unfortunate illness, he was teaching me "purr words"....words with positive and warming overtones that create an aura of decency and virtue.
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kraftdinner
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posted on March 16, 2004 01:37:36 PM new
Poor Twelve. Maybe his new Martha-Stewart-style posts are his way to win you back. You'll at least have to give him a point or two for creativity.
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Helenjw
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posted on March 16, 2004 01:56:49 PM new
Hey, you can't knock success. It's been over three hours since he blasted anybody.
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