posted on April 20, 2004 09:39:32 PM new
I said, They joined the Reserves to make a few bucks on the weekend.
The Reserves are doing their jobs in Iraq whether they believe in the cause or not. What's welfare got to do with it? Most had full time jobs before they were activated.
posted on April 20, 2004 09:57:01 PM new
I understand what you said!
And I understand why they joined.
Figured they could get an extra paycheck and a free education, for doing nothing.
Well sometimes you have to earn what you get,like it or not!
posted on April 20, 2004 10:00:07 PM new
Well, they are dadofstickboy. So your welfare suggestion makes no sense. If they got the extra paycheck and then split, you would have a legitimate complaint but that's not the case.
[ edited by Helenjw on Apr 20, 2004 10:01 PM ]
posted on April 20, 2004 11:00:01 PM new
Cheryl, I appreciate your sentiments. I dont think I've ever called you unamerican, though for expressing your opinion.
My point is they HAVE TO BE THERE, and fulfill the orders they were assigned. They have get up every morning and kill real human beings and watch their fellow soliders get wounded & killed. Do you honestly think they can do this day in day out without some motivation that this is the enemy, and some promise of what they are doing will lead to a good outcome? I really dont belive human beings have that in their makeup to continue killing for the wrong reasons or on a false pretense. So I personally dont feel its a support to them, to help them continue doing what they have to do; to keep putting it out there that is all wrong wrong wrong.
Even if a democratic administration gets in; there is is still this mess to be dealt with. We are in it already. And way up to our eyeballs. So in your opinion, what should they do now? Pull out and leave the entire mess? Or totally bomb out the whole place wihout regard to civilians which they do try to avoid doing, and take true occupation or Iraq?
Helen: They did voluntarily submit to that clause for war when they signed the contract to join the military. Unfortunately, nobody gets to sign up for weekends only. Its a known stipulation if there is a any conflict that needs bodies to go; unless you have some major excuse, you're going. Thats what signing up for the military is ultimately about.
Kraft: Your analogy is the dumbest thing I ever heard. Being gay is a major part of who you are. If the parent cannot accept "their Life" (style)...,well, go ask a gay person how loved and accepted they feel by their parents when they've been rejected for who they are and how they choose to live. It is not two seperate issues at all.
posted on April 21, 2004 03:17:12 AM new
It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
posted on April 21, 2004 04:40:50 AM new
Sorry, twelve, but you really need couseling. You sound more and more irrational everyday. I never said Bush is directly responsible for killing our soldiers. This war is killing are soldiers and Bush, like it or not, is indirectly responsible. To be honest, I don't think Bush has the intelligence to be the mastermind behind this mess. Now, if you ask me, Chaney certainly does. Don't accuse me of saying Bush is stupid because that's not what I'm saying. He's intelligent like Nixon was intelligent. Too bad that intelligence is being used for ill gotten gains.
To put it in the perspective of a Syria-born friend of mine (who is now a citizen, BTW): Iraq is one of the richest countries on Earth. Why in the hell are WE spending all our money on them if it's not to get at their oil?
"Helen: They did voluntarily submit to that clause for war when they signed the contract to join the military. Unfortunately, nobody gets to sign up for weekends only. Its a known stipulation if there is a any conflict that needs bodies to go; unless you have some major excuse, you're going. Thats what signing up for the military is ultimately about."
I never said otherwise, neuroter. Your question, was related to how opinions of families and civilians affect troop morale and how families and civilians can oppose the war while still supporting the welfare of the troops. After Kiara's and Cheryl's good answer to that question, I was simply elaborating on the subject of discontent by pointing out that even troops who are fighting are not in favor of this war. According to polls, over 50% of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling the situation in Iraq. It's fair to think that this feeling is reflected in the opinion of the troops in Iraq.
posted on April 21, 2004 06:07:10 AM new
Some of the troops are getting discouraged because they enjoyed the idea of rebuilding the country... this insurgency has made the focus totally different...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
It's too bad that their blindness can't see they are killing more soldiers than President Bush ever has... Protest Loud and Proud! Your fellow taliban and insurgents are rejoicing at the support...
