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 kraftdinner
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:22:10 PM new
Some have been found? Really?

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:26:07 PM new
Yes KD but in very small quanities....something like a gallon or two.

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Nope dave.....don't have that right yet.


Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:31:42 PM new
Hellllooooooo.....Shell containing nerve gas........two truck loads of chemicals intercepted in Jordan crossing over from Syria(believed to have been transfered from Iraq). Tip of the iceberg! Others will be found.

Once again you cannot respond to the fact that Bush would have continued the lie by making sure WMD were found.

BUSH DID NOT LIE ABOUT THE WMB...not matter how much you want it to be true....get over it!!!

 
 cblev65252
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:35:02 PM new
I think you should get over it. . .your blind loyalty, that is. They found nothing that warranted a war over. We have more of that crap in this country. Whose to say we'll never use it? It's already been said that those things were probably left over from the Gulf War and simply forgotten about. You Bushites only read parts of the story. Try reading up on the WHOLE story.

Cheryl
 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:37:26 PM new
AND..........Once again you cannot respond to the fact that Bush would have continued the lie by making sure WMD were found.


 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:43:51 PM new
Camodog, hellooo-oh to you to. Just how on earth could Bush plant a WOMD? That's a hoot! And how does a couple truckloads of "chemicals" equal an imminent threat worthy of war?

 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 04:58:24 PM new
A barrel of chem-weapon could kill 100,000 people...a nuke can fit in a suitcase....a couple of envelopes of Anthrax caused panic....a dozen of carefully placed aerosol cans containing bio-weapon could kill 1/2 the population of Manhattan..........shall I go on? It would have been very easy for Bush to plant a WMD in Iraq to further a lie. Nice try!

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on June 3, 2004 05:03:25 PM new
You've gotta be kidding, Camodog! Just who do you think would carry out such a mission? You've been watching too many Rambo movies.

 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 05:27:21 PM new
Are you suggesting that we could not have placed a WMD in Iraq to further a lie?? That is a little naive. This would be have been a very easy task.


Why can you not respond to the fact that if Bush was willing to lie about WMD in the first place that he would have made sure that some were there to be found? That fact is he did not lie about the WMD. If he had in fact lied about them I have no doubt that some would have been found to cover the lie.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on June 3, 2004 05:29:21 PM new
KD - Terrorists, according to john kerry's last statements.

He plans to 'go after them'...hunt them down....seek them out whatever country they're in.

Think he's not concerned about chemical weapons and how they might get in our ports? He is...and has so stated.



Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 05:34:18 PM new
Suggesting that President Bush lied about WMD is more in line with a Rambo movie....If this in fact happened then suggesting that he would make sure some were found is very plausible.

 
 Linda_K
 
posted on June 3, 2004 05:38:30 PM new
camodog - The left-leaning posters here HAVE already suggested that if no womd was found Bush would have some planted - this was before we went into Iraq.



Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 05:54:17 PM new
Linda, does not surprise me. They seem to want it both ways. I have seen very little response to the logic I have laid out for them. They seem unable to respond to it.

I find a lot of Anti-Americanism on this board. This sort self loathing and empathy for our enemies is very dangerous. It reinforces to the terrorist that hitting the U.S. is the best way to win concessions. They are terribly misguided.
cd

 
 eFashion2Go
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:09:28 PM new
Bush or rather "Twiggy" is a bafoon and a liar.



 
 cblev65252
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:12:00 PM new
camodog

You are full of c-r-a-p. You haven't been posting here long enought to call any of us anti-American. In fact, I call your very comment anti-American. In America we have what is called freedom of speech which comes along with the right to express ourselves. No one here has said they have empathy for anyone except for those who have been killed and injured in a war that is based on lies. Get a life.

Cheryl
 
 eFashion2Go
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:16:49 PM new
Bush doesn't have to make sure of anything.

Unfortunately, most Americans do not think for themselves. They form their conclusions from whatever their chosen bias new channel is and just repeat the 15 second news piece they've just watched. Our government is a big corporate herder of mindless sheep.

Bush and his administration are nothing but appointed thugs and they shame our country.

2004 and Bush has got to go.


 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:35:21 PM new
Linda_K you had to be kidding when you said this "My position is if one is to believe your statement that Bush lied" are you saying that Bush didn't lie?

 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:44:49 PM new
camodog, I point out republican lies when I see them on this board. Saying people are Anti-American if they appose Bush is nothing more than another republican lie. You must have no shame like a lot other of republican lier's. Further more your post about WOMD shows how out of touch you are. Chems, bombs, all have built in finger prints to tell who made the parts or Chems not to mention the human factor. Bush could not slip that kind of plant through the scientific world.
[ edited by bigpeepa on Jun 3, 2004 06:56 PM ]
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:51:06 PM new
Right Camodog. You saying because Bush didn't plant WOMD that he must be telling the truth about all the other stuff is a bit of a reach, don't you think? If your theory was correct, how do you know the 2 "truckloads" of chemicals wasn't planted by Bush?

 
 davebraun
 
posted on June 3, 2004 06:54:41 PM new
bigpeepa, among my friends I count many Republicans. There are many racist bigoted warmongering xenophobic right wing fascist ideologues within the Republican party. There are also some good people; not many however.

None that come to mind in terms of this boards prolific posters.

Carnodog is just the latest intellectual heir to twelves philosophical school of thought (brainless-ism).




Friends don't let friends vote Republican!
 
 bigpeepa
 
posted on June 3, 2004 07:08:37 PM new
davebraum, I also know republicans that are good people and friends. But if I see republican lies on this board I will point out the lies every time. Keep up you good All American work.

 
 eFashion2Go
 
posted on June 3, 2004 07:17:42 PM new
QUOTE:

kraftdinner
posted on June 3, 2004 05:03:25 PM

"You've gotta be kidding, Camodog! Just who do you think would carry out such a mission? You've been watching too many Rambo movies."

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More like he has a mind meld with the monkeys at Fox News.

Bush has go to go in 2004!
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on June 3, 2004 07:22:49 PM new
You read that right, bigpeepa....I do not believe President Bush lied. I do not believe clinton lied about removing saddam and that he had womd either.

They both said the same thing.


Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on June 3, 2004 07:30:33 PM new
I find a lot of Anti-Americanism on this board. This sort self loathing and empathy for our enemies is very dangerous. It reinforces to the terrorist that hitting the U.S. is the best way to win concessions. They are terribly misguided.


You are not alone in making that observation...many others have said the same thing....and are met with exactly the same responses you have received.



I couldn't agree more that empathy for our enemies is dangerous and I have, in the past, called it 'aiding and abetting the enemy'. Saddam even made a statement, prior to the war, that the anti-war protestors were on HIS side. I see it the same way.


To me, there's a big difference between not supporting a certain President....and recognizing the difference between who are enemies are...rather than saying things like Osama BinLaden is less a threat to America than is a sitting President. Can't get more anti-American than that.


Re-elect President Bush!!
 
 Helenjw
 
posted on June 3, 2004 07:55:33 PM new

I suspect that camodog is pretending to be dumb. If I'm wrong, linda you and bear will have a new playmate.

BTW... Have I told you lately that I don't give a hoot what you think.


 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 09:07:29 PM new
<i>The lying hypocrits in Washington are killing Americans too</i>

<i>maybe the reason why some hate the U.S. is because of the lying hypocrisy</i>

<i>Those who want us dead have a reason. They dislike our imperialistic tactics</i>

<i>By destroying Iraq homes, hospitals, schools and the infrastructure along with killing thousands of people we created a lot of enemies in Iraq</i>

<i>Maybe the U.S. should bomb itself</i>

<i>We have more of that crap in this country. Whose to say we'll never use it?</i>

I consider all the above quotes taken from this string "anti-american". None say anything about President Bush or the Republican party. They are all directed towards America.

If you want to be bash the President that is fine. I NEVER said that was anti-american!


However, I do not feel guilty for being a citizen of the Earth's only superpower. I do not feel guilty that we are standing up for ourselves. I do not feel guilty for eliminating people who sit around and think of ways to murder as many of us as possible. I do not not feel guilty for having a president who is willing to do something about this.
cb



 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on June 3, 2004 09:24:34 PM new
"None say anything about President Bush or the Republican party."

Camodog, every line you quoted was about Bush and the Republican party, not the other way around, or are you just pretending to be really out-of-it like Helen suspects?



 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 09:35:02 PM new
No kraft...they are all directed at America, the military, Washington and also towards our way of life. If you look again you will see none are against President Bush. These are the types of quotes that I consider anti-american. I don't think I could be any clearer.
cd

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on June 3, 2004 09:47:46 PM new
LoL Camdog! Who do you think "the lying hypocrits in Washington" are? (Bush & Co.) Who's acting Imperialistic? (Bush) Who's order was it to destroy homes, hospitals, etc., in Iraq? (Bush & Co.) Who said the U.S. has hundreds of terrorist cells in the U.S. and that terrorists need to be destroyed? (Bush & Co.) Can you see now how these issues are about Bush?

 
 camodog
 
posted on June 3, 2004 10:06:47 PM new
No Kraft...not only are these statements inaccurate but they also reveal a blatant anti-American bias. I get tired of America being blamed for all the ills of the world.

 
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