posted on July 9, 2004 04:08:19 PM new
:: I do not want to pay for after school programs that will only benefit the two family worker that is living beyond their means. Is that hard to understand.::
I guess I am curious as to how you come by this knowledge that the only people kids that would elect to take part in after school programs are ones that not only come from homes where there are two working family memebers and taht they are living beyond their means. Is there some special insight that tells you that no one parent household kids would attend or that "living beyond their means" neccesarily means they recently purchased an overpriced home, drive SUVs and own plasma TV as you have stated they all do in previous posts. Is this the same website where you got the information that bussing applies to private schools? Or does it come from the same frame of mind that leads you to believe that parents should hire day care for high school students?
I'm also curious as to this city/town you live in that is filled with mansions that fall dowwn in the rain. I have never seen reports of homes that suffer widespread damage from the rain. I have seen damage resulting the effects of rain, such as flooding, mudslides, etc (this is usually he result of poor city planning, inadequate landscape design, etc) - but widespread rain damage in a town full of mansions? Interesting.
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posted on July 9, 2004 05:07:17 PM new
she may be watching too many movies,say GONE WITH THE WIND,they burnt ATlanta ,the entire city.
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posted on July 9, 2004 05:36:15 PM new
Here is some information for you fenix---
Wisconsin.....
School districts receive state transportation aid to bus public and private students to school. Unified received $318,400 in state transportation aid last year, according to Bob Stepien, assistant superintendent of business services. But that amount covered only a small portion of the district's $8 million transportation budget: Currently, Unified spends $886,177 to transport non-public school students.
The url below is the whole story.....
http://www.schoolchoicewi.org/currdev/detail.cfm?id=26
I can also speak from experience. My friend lived in Illinois her son wanted to go to St. Joseph's Catholic school in Kenosha. What she had to do was drive her son to the Wisconsin border and a school bus would pick him up and go the rest of the way.
You have your opinion on abortion and I have my opinion on after school programs. I don't come in and criticize your view, because that is what a view is, but you seem to criticize my view all the time. Is that the democratic way? The world according to fenix.....BTW abortions are not going to stop overcrowding of schools because families are now going overseas and adopting.
Back to new homes. No this is a fact here. We have had terrible storms and the houses have sustained damage. Now I don't know if it is because they were shoddy built or maybe because they are so big. But whatever it is if the building continues there will be no green space left.
posted on July 9, 2004 06:13:53 PM new
But whatever it is if the building continues there will be no green space left.
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so??? people who live in glass houses should not thrown stone??
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 9, 2004 06:25:52 PM new
Libra - are you aware that Bussing is not the act of getting on a bus? Bussing is bringing kids from outside of their logical geographical area in order to create racial integration. Now - since provate schools are.. well... private (as in electively chosen and paid for by the parent) - bussing does not apply to them.
What is the median income in your area where not only does everyone to private schools, but their parents drive SUVs, live in water soluable mansions, watch Plasma TV and fly to cambodia to pick up new kids and you feel that this is something that is widespread and done on a large scale basis? You really are in LaLa land if you believ that that is the norm. Hell, I lived in three of the most expensive areas in the country to be and have never encountered an area like that. I guess the Laurel Canyon area was close but those houses were susceptible to earthquakes, not rain.
The thing about opinions Libra is that you are occasionally asked to give a logic justification for them and that is what I hav asked you to do. Why do you bother to come to this area if you feel that you are somehow immune to being questioned on your opionins and asked to explainn them. This is a "discussion board". By definition, that means that people discuss what is said so don't by so surprised or act put upon when people actually respond to your comments.
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posted on July 9, 2004 06:41:54 PM new
OK - just read a few articles on the water damaged homes in Wisconsin..... from the articles regarding FEMA intervention, etc, I have to wonder if you understand the difference between flooding and some rain. Yes Libra - when an area undergoes massive flooding, there is going to damage as a result. It is an act of nature, not of faulty construction. The FEMA intervention should have been he first on that one. Seems that the clay soil in the area combined with heavy melt and abnormally heavy rains to create a water level that could not be absorbed fast enough thus creating flooding conditions. How does that relate to shoddy construction espeicially when most of the accounts I read regarding homeowners were in older homes?
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posted on July 9, 2004 07:13:33 PM new
See fenix when I prove something than you find something else to complain about. Busing is used to transport students to school whether red, yellow, black, white, private or prochial schools. Get it!!!!!!!.
What you read didn't even apply to the city. It was the houses, well really cabins that are to close to the Des Plains River. That you read about. I see someone from California can really give facts about a state that is a half a country away. You have great eyesight. Get your facts straight.
posted on July 9, 2004 07:25:26 PM new
Well I guess you don't understand rain. When you get 1 1/2 inches of rain in a half hour there is no ground that will accept that. Even the deep tunnels can't handle that load. That is a fact. Now your an expert on building. What don't you know about. I am not going to get into a shouting match with you because I have proven that busing to private school is free for the child as the parents pay taxes but they send their children to either private or parochial schools. They will also benefit from the after school programs. If it passes wait and see.......Furthur more high school students will never attend after school programs as they like to use that time to get into trouble. That will never change. Only the students that have after school programs now will stay. athletes, band etc.
posted on July 9, 2004 07:35:52 PM new"Furthur more high school students will never attend after school programs as they like to use that time to get into trouble."
posted on July 9, 2004 08:18:15 PM newSee fenix when I prove something than you find something else to complain about. Busing is used to transport students to school whether red, yellow, black, white, private or prochial schools. Get it!!!!!!!.
1) That's not busing. those are transportaion provision. I have already explained bussing to you.
2) Now that you feel that you have firmly grasped your arguement please explain how utilizing these buses to provide afterhour transportation is a violation of church and state thereby not allowing it, as was your initial assertaion, if the extact same busses running the same routes 6 hours earlier in the day is not.
What you read didn't even apply to the city. It was the houses, well really cabins that are to close to the Des Plains River.
So now you know what I read about? Are you telling me that the college is made up of cabins? or that people in Wisconsin build basements in their riverside cabins? In most states those are reffered to as indoor pools are generally frowned upon. Very diffeicult to get a builders permit.
I see someone from California can really give facts about a state that is a half a country away. You have great eyesight. Get your facts straight.
I know this may come as a hugge shock to you, but Wisconsin has actually entered the information age. Their news sources even post to the web. There are dozens of articles. I know it's shocking, but it's true, you should check it out sometime.
Now your an expert on building. What don't you know about.
Shocking as it may be, I came from one of those two income households and the other income came from the building industry. I spent afternoons and summers in my early teens working on construction sites. The process is fascinating and yeah, spend years round sites, especially in areas with clay and expanding/contracting bedonite requiring floating foundations in order to prevent foundation cracking and you learn a few things. Sorry Libra but I am not going to appologize for having a curious mind and retaining information.
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posted on July 10, 2004 12:22:19 AM new
fenix I would never ask you to apologize. Because you are never wrong...think about. You have been everywhere, done everything what else is there....
Fenix does this statement sound familiar?
I'd also love to hear you explain how busing applies to private schools. Please expand in detail with verifiable facts how that one works.
I gave you the facts on public schools funding busing for private schools. Color or race is not a factor. Everyone within the boundaries of busing that needs busing gets it. Here is the thread we were talking about it and oh BTW it is also the thread where crowfarm said it was outta here.
posted on July 10, 2004 09:30:07 AM new
Libra - you sound jealous - did you want to spend your afternoons and summers at 12 and 13 on a construction site and no one would let you? I would have gladly traded. I would have rather been just about anywhere else, especially during the winter.
As for the busing issue - it was a simple matter of miscommunicatio. To me, busing is the forced practice of forced integration of schools via bringing kida in from other districts. You were reffering to anyone that got on the bus
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