posted on July 22, 2004 04:28:20 PM new
I believe all Good Americans should support traditional marriage. Laws governing the "sanctity" of marriage should be passed.
1st: you HAVE to get married it's the law and so fun and holy everybody HAS to do it. If you're a total loser or smart enough not to want to get married a marriage will be arranged for you.
2nd: No divorces, sorry, marriage is law.
If your husband beats you and/or your children, drinks away his paycheck, rapes your son or daughter, and kills people for a living....well, suck it UP! Same for husbands, just because each of your kids looks like a different neighbor, your wife is addicted to a $1,000 a day habit, and drinks away her paycheck, suck IT UP! It's the law.
3rd: Since you must remain married, you must be happy...or else! Unhappiness in the form of grumpiness, infidelity, letting yourself go to hell, sever depression,crying, wounds, or just general misery will be punished by long jail sentences. You WILL be happy!
4th: If children are hurt during a hatefilled marriage either physically or mentally ....they will be punished.
To also protect the sanctity and holiness of marriage all priest pedophiles will be provided with as many children as possible....oh, excuse me, religions already do that.
Ya, I think government has an obligation to protect marriage!
posted on July 22, 2004 09:50:01 PM new
There was no reason to use the word 'traditional'. When you use the word marriage the majority of the people KNOW what you mean, they are not attempting to change the definition. As far as your post, you have high-lighted the irony very nicely.
I think the point that parklane is trying to make is that it should be traditional like the 55 hour marriage of Britteny Spears.
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
posted on July 22, 2004 10:00:45 PM new
The simple fact is that if I wanted to get married and divorced 12 times this year, once a month, I can. As long as I marry a woman.
In fact, I can do it next year too. Now that's sanctity!
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
posted on July 23, 2004 06:03:57 AM new
once that bill passes the senate, President Bush will sign it and then the states will handle the issue of marriage...
posted on July 23, 2004 06:10:17 AM new
Yeah and I bet Bush will have either Britney Spears or Elizabeth Taylor be the "poster child" for his sanctity of marriage campaign.
So Twelve, how long have you been married?
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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posted on July 23, 2004 06:27:25 AM new
I am not married, I just believe homosexuality is wrong and not deserving of any privledges...
As I have told you in the past, my position has not nor will it ever change...
You made the choice, it was wrong, don't expect people to "accept" it completely... 70% of Americans do not want homosexual marriage, they didn't want an amendment either, so that won't happy yet... however this new bill allows the states to decide for themselves... something you wanted logansdad, however no activist judge will be able to force a state into some they do not want to do...
Some states will allow that abomination, some will allow civil unions, some will not allow either... the states will decide.
posted on July 23, 2004 07:33:14 AM new
I am not going to play your game logansdad
I don't care how long a relationship you have been in. You are steering this away from the topic at hand...
Fine, be that way. Your non reply answers my question as well. Why the heck do you feel marriage to be so important when you haven't even been in a relationship?
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
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posted on July 23, 2004 07:40:24 AM new
Homosexuals will get what they want when this bill passes... the states will get to decide, why are you against letting a state decide?
Oh isn't that sweet my groupie followed me over here... crowfarm you just can't believe your idol is posting this early can you?
"sniff" my own groupie.. what can I say...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
[ edited by Twelvepole on Jul 23, 2004 07:43 AM ]
posted on July 23, 2004 07:50:00 AM new
Homosexuals will get what they want when this bill passes... the states will get to decide, why are you against letting a state decide?
Your paranoia is getting to you. You are really getting insane. I ask a question and you have to respond with some off the wall remark. Now it is a clear to me. You are more afraid that a gay couple can live in happiness and have peace with themselves and you will die a lonely old fart who was never in a relationship.
As I said before I do not need no stupid piece of paper declaring my relationship to be legal. As far as I am concerned I am married. The other states can decide to outlaw gay marriages if they want. They can define marriage between a black man and a black woman as far as I am concerned. This will not cause me to live my life any different. This will not change the way I love my partner.
You and your people have yet to prove how WMD (Weddings of Mass Destruction) will be the downfall of society. All you and your people have done is shown your intolerance and hatred for people you do not like.
Now go back to playing with your blow up woman before Bush decides to have a constitutional amendment outlawing that because.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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posted on July 23, 2004 09:08:03 AM new
Or in your case, logansdad, a blow up boy. Er, maybe i should say man, so you don't think I am accusing you of being a homosexual pediphile.
In Christ,
Rick
Revelation 17:5
"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I do not accept His claim to be God." That is one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic....or else he would be the devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."
C.S. Lewis: "Mere Christianity"
posted on July 23, 2004 09:33:03 AM new
From "christian" in another thread,
"It's sad that some individuals have to resort to their ultra-opiionated nonsense and insults. But that is the way it is here on this board now.
I can remember a time when people here would disagree, but at least have some sembelance of civility about it. Now it seems to be who can insult whom the most."
In this thread,
"Or in your case, logansdad, a blow up boy. Er, maybe i should say man, so you don't think I am accusing you of being a homosexual pediphile."
posted on July 23, 2004 09:33:10 AM new
CC: I don't need any artificial person to feel love or have a relationship. I have a breathing partner that I love and who loves me back.
You are preaching to wrong choir about the need for relationship.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
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posted on July 23, 2004 09:45:05 AM new
ChristianCoffee said, "Or in your case, logansdad, a blow up boy. Er, maybe i should say man, so you don't think I am accusing you of being a homosexual pediphile."
Rick, In the past, you would have been moderated and possibly suspended for that statement and others that you have posted recently. Is a comment like you just made represenative of a good Christian?
posted on July 23, 2004 10:56:11 AM new
Moderated? Myself. Isn't that a trip. When posters in here can speak of much nastier things then I ever post. And to be honest, being moderated does not worry me too much.
Considering the things logansdad, crowfarm et al have accused me of in past postings, I feel I can speak my mind as well.
Sometimes I must speak using the same guidlines that secular posters here use. Since most of them do not understand what being a Christian is about anyway. Have to meet them on their level, so to speak. The guidlines are set in here by secular posters, not by Christians. There is a big difference in the way a secular board is run and a Christian one.
Logan stated:
"As I said before I do not need no stupid piece of paper declaring my relationship to be legal."
Then why try to fight for something you don't even agree with, or even need from this post?
In Christ,
Rick
Galations 3:1-2
"I am trying here to prevent anyone saying the really foolish thing that people often say about Him: "I'm ready to accept Jesus as a great moral teacher, but I do not accept His claim to be God." That is one thing we must not say. A man who was merely a man and said the sort of things Jesus said would not be a great moral teacher. He would either be a lunatic....or else he would be the devil of Hell. You must make your choice. Either this man was, and is, the Son of God: or else a madman or something worse. You can shut Him up for a fool, you can spit at Him and kill Him as a demon; or you can fall at His feet and call Him Lord and God. But let us not come with any patronizing nonsense about His being a great human teacher. He has not left that open to us. He did not intend to."
C.S. Lewis: "Mere Christianity"
posted on July 23, 2004 11:13:56 AM new
"christian" said,
"Sometimes I must speak using the same guidlines that secular posters here use. Since most of them do not understand what being a Christian is about anyway. Have to meet them on their level, so to speak. The guidlines are set in here by secular posters, not by Christians. There is a big difference in the way a secular board is run and a Christian one."
Biggest load of bullpoop I've ever heard from those two faced "christians" who need an excuse to sling their vile garbage!
posted on July 23, 2004 11:45:52 AM newThen why try to fight for something you don't even agree with, or even need from this post?
Personally, I do not feel I need a piece of paper defining my marriage. Would you feel any different? If you were living with your spouse but not married, would you consider yourself still to be "married" in the sense that you are partners?
Why I am fighting...I am fighting for what I feel is right. I feel gays should be allowed the same rights as a straight married couple. I am fighting for all those that came before me and fought for what the gay community has had to overcome that past 40 years. I am fighting for the next generation of gay people that will come after me.
I know you will not understand this nor do I expect you to since you are not a minority nor not have had to face discrimination.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on July 23, 2004 11:48:01 AM new
CC: How can you blame the gay community for the breakdown of marriage when it has been the straight people that have ruined it?
In your opinion what has caused the decline of marriage rates and the increased in divorce rates over the past 30 years? Do you feel divorce is the right for the straight community? Do you feel divorce is responsibile for what has taken place to the sanctity of marriage over the past 3o years? Do you feel parents have to accept some blame for what they have or not have taught their kids about marriage?
What is the gay agenda in your opinion because every one has their own opinion on this?
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
[ edited by logansdad on Jul 23, 2004 04:22 PM ]
posted on July 23, 2004 12:17:52 PM new
Do you spike your coffee or something, Christian?
"Sometimes I must speak using the same guidlines that secular posters here use. Since most of them do not understand what being a Christian is about anyway. Have to meet them on their level, so to speak. The guidlines are set in here by secular posters, not by Christians. There is a big difference in the way a secular board is run and a Christian one."
You're joking right? You make it sound like you're Jesus himself, trying to put aside your perfection in order to communicate with us earthlings. Many people understand very well what Christianity is and choose to ignore the nonsensical parts where the Christians not only think they are above everyone else, but they believe their doing God's work. Your post is laughable.
posted on July 23, 2004 12:58:19 PM new
I agree Nero, but there's always an air of "you poor little soul-less people who need saving" theme to these Christian people's posts, while on the other hand they don't mind telling everyone how much God's hates gays (or whoever he hates).
Talking Godly doesn't make you Christian. Using God as your leader to justify bad behaviour doesn't make you Christian. What makes you Christian is having enough guts to stand up for love and truth no matter what the Bible says. Get a grip. Who cares if gays marry or if someone marries their dog? Is your life so perfect God has allowed you to make this judgement? Geez, who would want to be a Christian when you have to carry so much baggage?
posted on July 23, 2004 01:13:52 PM new
Bravo! Kraft.. Great posting!
Nero.. I know what you mean about having to talk to people in a manner that they will understand, that is true.. but in this case I don't know how to respond to CC.. it seems he has two personalities..
CC the son of God and CC the gutter mucker
I have heard this kind of ideology, or is it idiotology before... from others with a God Complex... David Koresh.. Jim Jones..Charles Manson come to mind...
posted on July 23, 2004 01:15:18 PM new
Christiancoffee
"Sometimes I must speak using the same guidelines that secular posters here use. Since most of them do not understand what being a Christian is about anyway. Have to meet them on their level, so to speak. The guidelines are set in here by secular posters, not by Christians. There is a big difference in the way a secular board is run and a Christian one."
Is the fact that you drag that long signature line about and call yourself Christian coffee an indication that you would like to represent those qualities that Christianity is known to promote....such as loving your neighbor despite life style and religious differences. When you get embroiled in topics such as this and show your lack of tolerance it defeats your purpose if in fact you have one.
posted on July 23, 2004 01:17:51 PM new
Kraft, I agree with you, too. Whole lot more going on to being Christian than just lip service. But CC is, who is his, dont feel talked down to...I think its just his way..except when he gets pizzed-off...lol...which only shows he is quite human!
posted on July 23, 2004 02:29:53 PM new
Maggie & Nero -
I'm not against ChristianCoffee, but against the idea that people are either Christian or secular, and the secular variety are Godless without direction. This seems to be the theme with Christians - only my opinion.
posted on July 23, 2004 06:08:09 PM new
No, it's not just you.
I remember, a few years back, talking to a neighborand getting that attitude. I can't remember what the whole conversation was about, but I had done a favor for someone & that came up in the course of it. This guy looked at me in amazement, shook his head, and said "I can't believe how nice you are." I have to admit that stopped me in my tracks, and I asked him what on earth he meant. He said, "well, you're an athiest, not a Christian!" Like only Christians could be nice, and an athiest must spend his or her spare time devouring children or something...
Sheesh!
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