NearTheSea
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posted on July 30, 2004 07:04:24 PM new
well, Bush
I was checking out LaRouche and Nadar, but no
I was at Olympias Lakefair 2 weeks ago, and some gothic looking gal came up to me and she worked for La Rouche, and started talking Armegeddon and Kerry and gave us literature.... woaw what a bunch of horseshit.
Then Nadar, well, no, he is not even or ever going to get close, so why is he there
so, its Bush again
I mean Edwards is good lookig and all, but then Bush does look better than Kerry....I know, that is not the reason for voting for someone, but I think its Bush who can finish the job he stared
so, with that, my vote will go Bush Cheney
and i've been drinking, and sitting outside, but it will be so tommorow and after that. Mikey even agreed to have a Bush sign in our yard! We have the bumper stickers already, but I think most in our neighborhood are Bush people
Ok have a good weekend I'm gonna be gone,for a while, VACATION!!!! 
my kid is sending her hubby over here to borrow my DVD cold mtn!!! wtf
ok see ya'll later BUSH CHENEY yes!
Now spend some time out there, great summer so far!!!!!!
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I'm NearTheSea, and I approve this post
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NearTheSea
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posted on July 30, 2004 07:11:53 PM new
oh and I have to add, I watched (most of ) the democratic convention, and still wan not convinced about kerry
Have a great WEEKEND!!
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I'm NearTheSea, and I approve this post
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yeager
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posted on July 30, 2004 07:15:28 PM new
I have voted primarily a straight republican ticket most of my adult life. This year, however with all the troubles created by the Bush administration, I am voting for John Kerry!
True Americans do not exclude anybody. They recognize that everyone should have the same rights. Bigotry, intolerance and hatred are cancers of the mind.
[ edited by yeager on Jul 31, 2004 07:21 PM ]
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twig125silver
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posted on July 30, 2004 08:28:30 PM new
Unless something miraculous happens, I'll more than likely vote Republican. I think Colin Powell should be running. Moderate, like us.
Voting for Nader would be throwing my vote away...like voting for Perot.
(Maybe I should be registered as an Independent? Can they vote in the primaries?)
TerryAnn
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 30, 2004 08:34:28 PM new
twig, after President Bush wins in Nov, I see Cheney resigning for health and Colin Powell getting the nod...
NTS good decision... Change now is would not be good for the country and especially who they want to change to.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
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bigpeepa
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posted on July 30, 2004 08:47:26 PM new
Hey TerryAnn, this Democratic agrees. Colin Powell is a good man. He just got mixed up with a bad crowd that wouldn't listen to him. I didn't like seeing a good man's reputation hurt. Powell is a good soldier and did what he was told. Its a shame that Bush/Cheney have hurt so many good people.
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CBlev65252
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posted on July 31, 2004 04:39:24 AM new
I like Powel as well. However, he wouldn't run for president when he was urged to because he felt his race would cause a danger so I don't think he would accept the vice presidency. It's a shame in this day and age that that would be an issue for anyone. I was surprised at he would have taken a position in the Bush administration. A good man's reputation has been ruined.
Cheryl
. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
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twig125silver
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posted on July 31, 2004 05:33:38 AM new
I know I'm going to get "something" for this....He's black, but not dark. So possibly this would not be as offensive to those "not quite ready" for a black president?
I like him and believe race should not be an issue.
TerryAnn
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Helenjw
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posted on July 31, 2004 06:13:49 AM new
Powell sold his soul to corporate greed.
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Helenjw
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posted on July 31, 2004 06:15:49 AM new
The Race is on - Zogby
Among Hispanic Voters:
Kerry 69%
Bush 19%
Among Southern Voters:
Kerry 48%
Bush 46%
Viewed Favorably in the South:
Kerry 55%
Bush 55%
Bush's Job Performance in the South: 44%
US Headed in the Right Direction in the South: 43%
Among Young Voters (18-29) :
Kerry 53%
Bush 33%
Among Single Voters:
Kerry 69%
Bush 19%
In the Red States:
Kerry 46%
Bush 48%
In the Blue States:
Kerry 50%
Bush 38%
Among People Who Did Not Vote in 2000:
Kerry 50%
Bush 25%
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 31, 2004 06:19:16 AM new
aww helen like we give sh!t about your venom this morning... what's that matter hon, hubby leave early so you have no one else to spew at?
See folks this is the left... even think about someone of a different color running... for the republicans and now he has "sold his soul to corporate greed"... yeah, someone that young blacks can look up to and aspire to follow and helen insults them... why? because he is not some sniveling socialistic democrat...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 31, 2004 06:22:43 AM new
helen dear... unless you have missed the last few elections... polls always favor the most recent convention... wait until after october... this was expected and as been talked about by Hannity already... so you listen to Sean Hannity on a regular basis? So maybe you're finally coming around to the "right" side...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
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Helenjw
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posted on July 31, 2004 06:32:25 AM new
The "venom" was spoken by the Bush administration when they lied to the U.N Security Council, the world and to the American people.
There was a time when I admired Powell also
But when he agreed to trot out these lies he became this administration's lapdog and he sold his soul.
Both the transcript and the video is available here....
Colin L. Powell, Remarks To The United Nations Security Council
Helen
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BIGPEEPA
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posted on July 31, 2004 06:44:08 AM new
TerryAnn, I also believe race should not be an issue. When you saw the faces in the crowd at the Democrats convention you saw what America looks like today. Its the Democrats that are trying to make one America. I hope you can see that the Republicans are the ones using wedges to divide the American people. When I say that I am an American first and a Democrat second.
Please believe me when I say, I believe its your business who you vote for and not mine or anyone else's business. All I ask is before you cast your vote take a long hard look at the issues of both parties. I sure am glad you posted your thoughts on this board and please come back often.
Dennis AKA bigpeepa Ha Ha
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Helenjw
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posted on July 31, 2004 07:01:34 AM new
I agree, of course, that race should have no bearing on our estimation of Powell.
Obama's brilliance, for example is not enhanced or diminished by the fact that he is black.
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Helenjw
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posted on July 31, 2004 07:25:36 AM new
No, twelvepole.
Hannity appeals to those poor gullible souls who read Fox news. Some of his moronic statements can be found here.
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CBlev65252
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posted on July 31, 2004 07:35:27 AM new
Helen
We'll wait for the repub's convention. They'll spew so much venom that it will ruin it for them!
Cheryl
. . .if you still try to defend the infamies and horrors perpetrated by that Antichrist- I really believe he is Antichrist- I will have nothing more to do with you and you are no longer my friend.. . - War and Peace, Tolstoy
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logansdad
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posted on July 31, 2004 08:08:57 AM new
I made my decision in January 2001 not to vote for Bush in 2004.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
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bunnicula
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posted on July 31, 2004 12:49:06 PM new
I was out visiting my mule today, and spoke to the man who owns the ranch she is staying at. He's in his 60's and said that although he'd voted a straight Republican ticket all his life, this time he is voting for Kerry. Said that Bush is an all around disaster & likely to get us involved in a huge war if he goes on like he is. Doug said he was sorry as all get-out that he voted for Bush last time. Also went on to say that, looking back on what Clinton achieved, he was a great president--"had the morals of a tomcat, but did a great deal for the country as a whole". He also said that, even though he himself is a Republican, he feels that Bush is two-faced and doesn't give a rip for this country. He's saddened by the mess Bush has gotten us into.
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We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. -- John F. Kennedy
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neroter12
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posted on July 31, 2004 01:45:13 PM new
terry ann: ::He's black, but not dark.::
terryann, do you believe whites apply their prejudice in shades of blackness? If so, what leads you to believe that?
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Linda_K
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posted on July 31, 2004 01:55:05 PM new
neroter - I can't speak for whites....and I can't speak personally for blacks on your question of:
do you believe whites apply their prejudice in shades of blackness? If so, what leads you to believe that?
but I've read articles on that subject that say there is that prejudice in the black community....amongst themselves...with the 'lighter' blacks being more 'desired'.
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"One thing is for sure: the extremists have faith in our weakness. And the weaker we are, the more they will come after us." --Tony Blair
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"The War on Terror will not be won until America is united. And as long as Democrats target the Bush administration -- not the terrorists -- as the enemy, we are in trouble." --Oliver North
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Those are only two reasons why we need to:
Re-elect President Bush!!
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neroter12
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posted on July 31, 2004 02:06:24 PM new
Hi Linda. Yes, I've heard that in tv or movies or (wherever) amongst blacks themselves. I just didnt know whites did that? It would seem to me if you didnt like black(s) or had a problem with them in political positions, the shade of blackness lighter/darker doesnt have any bearing here because a problem with racial prejudice goes beyond color.
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Helenjw
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posted on July 31, 2004 02:06:28 PM new
neroter - I can't speak for whites....and I can't speak personally for blacks on your question of:
but I've read articles on that subject that say there is that prejudice in the black community....amongst themselves...with the 'lighter' blacks being more 'desired'.
That's wrong, Linda to see a prejudiced viewpoint within the black community and then suggest that therefore it's acceptable for people outside that community to judge people based on the shade of their skin.
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neroter12
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posted on July 31, 2004 02:08:38 PM new
Helen, I dont think she insinuated that at all! Where do you support she suggested that?
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Linda_K
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posted on July 31, 2004 02:18:03 PM new
Just ignore helen....she always tries to imply something I meant [according to her] when I didn't. Always attempts to make me look like a racist. Doesn't bother me...I'm not...and *I* know it. 
I just didnt know whites did that?
Well...I don't really know in that particular situation. But I have had many say how beautiful my youngest granddaughter is....how they love her skin color...makes her look like she has a permanent tan. She's 1/2 white and 1/2 Asia [Japanese]....so it could be ??? the same to some in the many 'shades' of black.
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"One thing is for sure: the extremists have faith in our weakness. And the weaker we are, the more they will come after us." --Tony Blair
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"The War on Terror will not be won until America is united. And as long as Democrats target the Bush administration -- not the terrorists -- as the enemy, we are in trouble." --Oliver North
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Those are only two reasons why we need to:
Re-elect President Bush!!
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Reamond
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posted on July 31, 2004 03:48:55 PM new
Splendid link Helen, thank you.
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Twelvepole
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posted on July 31, 2004 05:12:02 PM new
considering helen started running dowm Powell to begin with... when speaking about racist she better be looking into a mirror...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
Homosexuality is a choice that can be corrected...
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neroter12
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posted on July 31, 2004 05:18:59 PM new
::because he felt his race would cause a danger::
Where in the world did you ever read or hear this?? I never did.
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bunnicula
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posted on July 31, 2004 05:50:53 PM new
Actually, what Powell said himself in his autobiography was that he feared danger for himself and his family. That nuts would try to take them out.
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We are not afraid to entrust the American people with unpleasant facts, foreign ideas, alien philosophies, and competitive values. For a nation that is afraid to let its people judge the truth and falsehood in an open market is a nation that is afraid of its people. -- John F. Kennedy
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neroter12
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posted on July 31, 2004 05:56:02 PM new
Whats that bunni? White Nuts? The ones riding mules or the ones riding elephants?
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