posted on September 1, 2004 07:55:10 PM new
Still no issues. FIrst zell miller ripping into kerry and the democrats, while john mccain says he should not have said some of the things he said. Now cheney is on with 9/11, terrorism, and more kerry bashing. Where are the issues? Three days and so far almost no mention of Economy, health care, education, social security, etc. I dont understand it at all......
posted on September 1, 2004 08:09:08 PM new
Miller was horribly confused. He won't support Kerry because Kerry was against all the same weapons systems Cheney voted against.
But for some reason Miller didn't mention Cheney.
And Miller and the rest of the noecons are taking the same attitude about the war in Iraq that made Vietnam the disaster it was.
And now it turns out that Cheney has options on 500,000 shares of Haliburton. I guess Cheney was against the same things Kerry was until he got the stock options.
posted on September 1, 2004 08:16:47 PM new
Obviously you are not an independent as you stated.
The enthusiasm here is much more at the RNC than at the DNC.
Obviously you didn't listen to Zell Millers speech as he does say why he is voting for GWB.
"Three days and so far almost no mention of Economy, health care, education, social security, etc. I don't understand it at all".....Well either do I as I wondered that about Kerry. Can you show me where Kerry is going to get 218 million jobs, How he is going to fund health care. Where he is going to get lower prescription drugs, besides Canada, How he is going to fund after school programs, and his 600 million dollars for National parks. What is he going to do about SS. or yes and the military that he wants to put under the United Nations. and the list goes on. The DNC is over and he still has said anything.
posted on September 1, 2004 08:47:41 PM new
Zel Miller is supporting a republican because the Democrats have moved too far to the left. And he's right. Look up any socialist/communist website and you'll see almost exactly the same rhetoric that the democrats are using.
posted on September 1, 2004 08:50:36 PM new
I watched audience reaction to Cheney's speech, and there was of course a lot of perfunctory applause--or applause led by party functionaries (I saw some of them working the crowd). But the faces of most of those who were shown on TV didn't seem excited but rather hopeful (wistful?) that something would be said that would grab them.
This may be wishful thinking on my part, but I sure didn't see admiration or love on the faces of the delegates watching Miller or Cheney.
Looking at Cheney, I kept seeing, writ large, the word HALLIBURTON on his forehead.
And I have to say that, last night when the Bush twins were speaking in their Darling Way, the looks on the faces of the men in the audience were sort of slobbery. I don't want to define that further in mixed company here!
posted on September 1, 2004 09:12:00 PM new
Speaking of the Bush twins. After looking at them for the first time closely, old George may want to get them DNA tested if they were conceived when he was still drinking with all his Texas buddies. They don't look at all like their "daddy", or I guess I should say they may look just like their "daddy", but they don't look at all like George.
I just wonder how drunk things got at the Bush household ?
posted on September 1, 2004 09:22:28 PM new
After that scathing speech from Z. Miller I wonder what or how his fellow Dems will deal with him now, he even mentioned Ted Kennedy in a bad way. I bet he doesn't get invites to anymore parties or strategy sessions.
Also I bet that to any undecideds watching it, his speech had to be eye opening. Yes I know that most of the lefties here think he is just a crackpot, but you have to figure that there are probably alot of people that really don't know Zell Miller like we all do. The reason why I say eye opening is because he clearly said he is a Democrat voting for and supporting GW a Republican. How many Republicans have said the same for Kerry, none that I know of.
posted on September 1, 2004 09:54:49 PM new
Duh, Reamond you must have DNA on the mind? They are not identical. One looks like Laura the other like George.
I have a set of eye glasses that I don't use anymore since I had my surgery would you like me to send them to you? Of course free of charge.
posted on September 1, 2004 09:57:58 PM new
Ted Kennedy..... Now there is a guy so out of touch with reality that I bet he can't stay awake long enough to even watch the RNC or the DNC. Should have been put out to pasture years ago. Word has it that most of his time is spent on "drunk benders". The left can be proud for sure.
posted on September 2, 2004 01:53:33 AM new
Yellowstone, I thought the same thing about Miller. He should just switch parties because I dont see how any of the democrats will not resent him for this. But its kinda nice to see a politican not just working for party loyality, as much as he will cross it for what he believes in.
The best of his speech was: "what should we send our soliders out there with, spitballs?"
...hahaha!!
I fell asleep during Chaney's speech!
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posted on September 2, 2004 02:21:32 AM new
I think that crowfarm is right on the mark. They are MILKING the tragedy of 9-11 for all it's worth. It is really a disgrace to the memory and the family members of the people who died in 9-11, that these people would even use New York City for their convention. Especially in the fact NYC is 80 percent DEMOCRATIC in voting population.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
posted on September 2, 2004 06:37:01 AM newI think that crowfarm is right on the mark. They are MILKING the tragedy of 9-11 for all it's worth. It is really a disgrace to the memory and the family members of the people who died in 9-11, that these people would even use New York City for their convention.
I wouldn't be surprised if Bush gave his acceptance speech from the former WTC site.
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
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posted on September 2, 2004 06:51:00 AM newHas anyone at the convention brought up Osama Bin laden YET!????
Joe scarborough said it best last evening.........this convention isnt about the republican issues, its all about their opponent. And then the big kicker was Zell praising kerry 3 years ago, and now bashing him???? I cant see tonight being any better.
posted on September 2, 2004 07:19:22 AM new
My thoughts on the fraternal twins, the Bush girls: I'm old enough to remember the Nixon daughters. They weren't twins, but they were and are quite a bit different. Julie Nixon (Eisenhower) was little and dark; her sister Tricia was blond.
Jenna Bush has Laura Bush's cheekbones, broader face, and definitely George's flared nostrils.
Barbara Bush (not the older lady!), however, doesn't look much like either one and doesn't seem to resemble her Bush grandparents. Maybe there's a petite person in Laura's ancestry she's a throwback to.
Sherrie Bobitch Jeffe, a (Repub.) commentator on one of the major networks, said this morning that she was so sickened by Zell Miller's speech that she left the room. . . . Interesting!
posted on September 2, 2004 07:27:51 AM newDuh, Reamond you must have DNA on the mind? They are not identical. One looks like Laura the other like George.
Yes, they are fraternal twins not identical. Which has nothing to do with what I stated.
Neither of the girls look like George. He needs to get a DNA test done. Who knows what happened at one of their drunken parties, or maybe Laura just got tired of dealing with a drunk.
In any event, he needs to get a test done. I'd bet the twins look alot like one of George and Laura's close friends. One they now avoid.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:02:07 AM newIn any event, he needs to get a test done. I'd bet the twins look alot like one of George and Laura's close friends. One they now avoid.
I think they look a little like the Governor from NJ....
Let's have a BBQ, Texas style, ROAST BUSH
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YOU CAN'T HAVE BULLSH** WITH OUT BUSH.
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We the people, in order to form a more perfect Union....
.....one Nation indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for ALL.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:03:15 AM new
Ahhhhhh Crowfarm at it again: You think my comment was nasty. Well what do you think about this that you posted
"Linda, isn't it hard to walk with Neroters nose up your butt?"
I am sure there are many more on this board like that because this is the way you attack posters.
At least I was offering assistance to Reamond, free of charge.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:14:29 AM new
If New York City is such a democratic city than why do they have a Republican Mayor. Why did they have a different republican mayor before him? Also a Republican Govenor.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:17:22 AM new
Well logansdad that was a low blow for your opinion of the gay community. You stand up for the gay rights and then you say this. Low blow for the gay community.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:18:24 AM new
Yeager and Logansdad who are joined at the hips said this;
I think that crowfarm is right on the mark. They are MILKING the tragedy of 9-11 for all it's worth. It is really a disgrace to the memory and the family members of the people who died in 9-11, that these people would even use New York City for their convention. Especially in the fact NYC is 80 percent DEMOCRATIC in voting population.
The Republicans are right in the middle of the hornets nest surrounded by screaming protesting Democrats and unafraid to show them all who will win in November.
Strategy wise this was the perfect place to hold a convention. They knew that people would turn out in droves to protest and it would turn ugly.
True to form the idiot Democrats have shown how stupid and out of control they can be by beating up policemen. Undoubtedly some of the same police that pulled people out of the WTC.
Other protesters marched naked or just topless while still others just showed their underwear with anti Bush slogans written on their undies.
By God these people will have their candidate win at any cost and if that means making idiots out of themselves then so be it, whatever it takes.
They are showing the rest of the country that after such a tragedy as 911 how much in opposition they can be to what needs to be done and for that matter the rest of the world also.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:27:27 AM new
Bush is trying to play both sides and will lose support of both.
Bush abandons base on homosexuality
By Jane Chastain
President George W. Bush may have unwittingly given homosexual activists just the boost they need to get state governments to pass domestic partnership laws, which put gay unions on an equal footing with marriage.
OK. Perhaps I'm being charitable, but I would prefer not to believe it was a cold, calculated attempt to pander to yet another voting block.
On Aug. 15, in an interview with CNN's Larry King, the president was talking about his support for a federal marriage amendment when King asked him, "What about the union of gays?"
Mr. Bush said, "Well, that's up to the states, you know. If states choose to do that, in other words, if they want to provide legal protections for gays, that's great! That's fine!"
The president went on to say a few words about the importance of keeping the definition of marriage as it is – a union between a man and a woman. However, the damage was done.
Here we have a president, who professes a faith in Christ, who has been endorsed by the religious right and heralded as the new leader of the conservative movement, giving his stamp of approval to gay unions.
How else can we take, "That's great! That's fine"?
In response to another King question, the president went on to elaborate, "There are ways to make sure gays have got rights. And you can do so in the law."
This will be the new "gold standard" for those promoting domestic partnership laws: "Even George W. Bush says that states should pass these laws."
To make matters worse, when King mentioned the difficulty of amending the Constitution, Mr. Bush said, "It's an important debate. … I think our society is great because people are able to live their lifestyles, you know, as they choose or as they're oriented."
In this one brief interview, President Bush encouraged the passage of domestic partnership laws. Furthermore, by embracing the favorite buzzword of homosexual activists, "sexual orientation," promoted the theory that one is either born a homosexual or a heterosexual and there is nothing anyone can do to change.
This is an affront to researchers and medical professionals who have battled the myth of the "gay gene" and have been swimming upstream against the tide of political correctness and media bias to have sound science applied to this important issue.
It is an affront to the thousands of former homosexuals who are ridiculed and ignored but serve as living exhibits that one can, in fact, change.
It is an affront to health workers who have to battle the ravages of a disease spread by the practice of unnatural sex acts and who suffer unnecessary exposure to infection because they are not allowed to screen patients for AIDS.
It is an affront to criminologists who are ignored or excoriated if they point out the fact that homosexual men are much more likely to molest children than their heterosexual counterparts: From 1 to 3 percent of the population is committing one-third of all sex crimes against children.
It is an affront to groups like the Boy Scouts who have fought an uphill battle against gay activists who want to force them to permit homosexual scoutmasters.
Nine days after the president made these regrettable remarks, Vice President Dick Cheney came out in support of gay marriage at a campaign stop in Davenport, Iowa. When the vice president was asked what he thought about homosexual marriages, Cheney replied, "My general view is that freedom means freedom for everybody. People ought to be free to enter into any kind of relationship they want to. The question that comes up with respect to the issue of marriage is what kind of official sanction or approval is going to be granted by the government, if you will, to the particular relationship?"
Cheney tried to abdicate his responsibility by saying the issue should be decided by the states. However, Cheney also tried to distance himself from the federal marriage amendment by saying, "The president makes basic policy for this administration and he's made it clear that he does, in fact, support an amendment on this issue."
Personally, I don't think this was an off-the-cuff response by Cheney. President Bush runs a tight ship punishing – even embarrassing – members of his Cabinet who publicly go against his policies. It appears to be a case of Bush and Cheney playing "good cop, bad cop."
Unfortunately, on the issue of homosexual unions, it is the president of the United States who has given gay activists an arsenal of new weaponry.
posted on September 2, 2004 08:29:34 AM new
Yellow - are you at all interested in knowing that most of the protests from the past 2 days were not Democrats and that largest problem group so far was a group that are self described anarchists?
Are you aware the the officer attacked was an undercover officer on the outer fringes of the demonstatration and that after the men kicking him were arrested the actual demonstartors broke out into a chant of "The Police Need A Raise?"
Don't make the istake of asuming that the only people demostrating against the Republicans are Democrats. there are quite a few groups doing it.
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
as I wondered that about Kerry. Can you show me where Kerry is going to get 218 million jobs, How he is going to fund health care. Where he is going to get lower prescription drugs, besides Canada, How he is going to fund after school programs, and his 600 million dollars for National parks. What is he going to do about SS. or yes and the military that he wants to put under the United Nations. and the list goes on. The DNC is over and he still has said anything.
Prevent Bigotry through Education.