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 EyeOfNute
 
posted on August 5, 2000 09:58:20 PM new
Do you use a firewall and if so which one?


Forgot that little ? thing.
[ edited by EyeOfNute on Aug 5, 2000 10:03 PM ]
 
 hardoutfit
 
posted on August 5, 2000 10:12:34 PM new
BlackICE by Network ICE








"Put more water in the soup pot, there's a better day a comin' "
 
 overworked
 
posted on August 5, 2000 10:17:18 PM new
Zone Alarm by Zone Labs, works just fine

 
 shaeun
 
posted on August 5, 2000 10:48:24 PM new
I use Zone Alarm for my listing computers, and Black Ice for my "secure computer" and a hardware firewall by linksys.
 
 krs
 
posted on August 5, 2000 11:14:44 PM new
"works just fine"

That's what you think.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on August 5, 2000 11:23:51 PM new
Well Ken, please educate us as to what the problem is with ZA.



 
 stockticker
 
posted on August 5, 2000 11:45:15 PM new
I don't have a firewall. Anything on my hard drive would undoubtedly bore a stranger (unless they like looking at pictures of stock certificates or are fascinated with my expenditures on postage which show up in my bookkeeping program).

I rarely visit any non-auction related web site (unless I am researching an item I'm putting up for sale) and I have clicked on perhaps 3 banner ads in the last year (and those 3 only because they were mentioned in AW threads). The last non-auction purchase I made on the web was a book from Amazon a year ago.

Irene
 
 reddeer
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:09:15 AM new
Stockticker ....... You might find this interesting reading?

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/issue/991004/nycu/hackers.htm



 
 stockticker
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:20:53 AM new
Reddeer: I don't store any information on my computer which could be used by someone else for financial advantage (I don't even do any banking on-line). As far as vandalism is concerned, I suppose that's a remote risk. I suspect the odds of having my house broken into and my computer stolen are much higher... If I ever get a cable modem perhaps I'll consider a firewall.

Irene
 
 EyeOfNute
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:22:09 AM new
reddeer
Just read your article and broke out in a sweat. Firewall here I come.......THANKS

 
 reddeer
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:31:05 AM new
Stockticker........ Even if you don't have cable, if your are online for long periods of time you are open for abuse.

I get several "attempts" on my system everyday. One has to wonder why a server in Russia/Spain/Kuwait etc has the need to get into my port? Once they were open, now they're not.

You might not have anything valuable to steal inside that box, but there's plenty of other things a screwball can do if they want to have a little "fun".

Zone Alarm is free, and IMO is a great way to keep the average scammer/hacker out.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:36:32 AM new
If you want to find out how susceptible your system is to port probes etc., check this site out.

http://grc.com/

I used to have a weak defense, now I'm in Stealth mode.

If nothing else, it helps me sleep better at night.


 
 EyeOfNute
 
posted on August 6, 2000 01:00:47 AM new
reddeer
Just downloaded AZ and checked it out..
ALL STEALTH...I owe you my firstborn....
THANKS

 
 pattaylor
 
posted on August 6, 2000 10:39:38 AM new
Hello everyone,

After clarification from Diana, we've decided to unlock this one.

Pat Taylor
Moderator
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 bunnicula
 
posted on August 6, 2000 10:44:15 AM new
Well, I use one now Downloaded Zone Alarm a few minutes ago.

 
 reddeer
 
posted on August 6, 2000 11:04:10 AM new
Thanks Pat, a job well done.

 
 bunnicula
 
posted on August 6, 2000 11:14:30 AM new
WOW!!!!!

I just downloaded Zone Alarm. Before I shut down my computer in order to activate it, I went to the site that reddeer gave and ran its probes. They knew my PCs ID #, and noted that Port 139 (NetBIOS) was wide open. All other ports were reported as "Port exists but currently closed to connections."

Then I rebooted my computer & went back to the site to run the probes again. In addition to ZA telling me that access had been attempted, the site now could not tell my computer's ID #--and reported that *all* ports were Stealth & might as well not exist at all.

Thanks to all who suggested getting a firewall.


edited because "new" & "knew" just aren't the same
[ edited by bunnicula on Aug 6, 2000 12:33 PM ]
 
 jakemelon
 
posted on August 6, 2000 11:36:26 AM new
I use blackICE with clearICE. Anyone that is using a DSL or Cable modem having a firewall is a MUST MUST MUST HAVE.

I get approximatelly 15-25 attacks per day. I use clearICE to track down the intruders and email their sys admin.

-jake

p.s. btw blackICE is not a firewall, it monitors and stops any incoming system snoops or attacks.




 
 Shoshanah
 
posted on August 6, 2000 11:42:46 AM new
Still using Norton Internet Security...Get an average of 3 "attempts" per day, sometimes none. By default, it blocks all Activex, unless you allow it...All settings can be adjusted to personal preferences. I have found that using "default" works great for me.

One of my favorite features is watching my Outlook Express Email being scanned as it downloads...

********************
Shosh

http://www.oldandsold.com/cgi-bin/auction.cgi?justdisp&Rifkah

http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/rifkah/
 
 miracle118
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:30:17 PM new
Any firewall/ security software for the Mac?

 
 avaloncourt
 
posted on August 6, 2000 12:35:59 PM new
I have BlackIce also on my computers and I am an ADSL subscriber.

I went to the site that reddeer posted above and had it do it's thing. I have a network of computers on my side of the ADSL router and their system's tools couldn't find evidence that a single computer even existed. My BlackIce never detected any snooping attempts so this means their prodding never got past the router.

I'm not sure if some DSL routers are providing a specifically more secure environment than others but for general information I'm using a Cisco 677 here.

Before going to ADSL I was using a dial-up account and was experiencing up to 20 attempts a day from people trying to get into the computer.

 
 abacaxi
 
posted on August 6, 2000 01:38:01 PM new
If I had DSL or a cable modem, I would have BlackIce installed.

One of the guys I work with got cable modem ... he noticed that he suddenly had a "network neighborhood" that included a whole bunch of other people's hard drives. He was delighted, until we reminded him that he was probably just as open to being seen as they were. He now has BlackIce, and left a Marquee screen saver on the desktops of all the machines he had access to, lwetting them know they had been hacked and needed a firewall.

 
 Meya
 
posted on August 6, 2000 02:46:52 PM new
Those of you who use cable or dsl modems and also have a home network setup could use a Router for your internet sharing. This would also give you a hardware firewall.

We just recently bought a Linksys Cable/DSL 4 port router and use it to share our internet connection amoung our 3 system home network. Using the web site mentioned by reddeer, our computers are now totally hidden.
 
 kathyg
 
posted on August 6, 2000 06:23:49 PM new
Yeah, a router is the way to go.
I have my DSL plugged into a NetGear RT311 Gateway router. Private IP addresses on all the PCs.

This is very secure and eliminates the need for any firewall software - this computer is cluttered with enough gunk already. On the other hand, I miss the thrill of monitoring the invaders who are trying to monitor me!

 
 Wex
 
posted on August 6, 2000 10:30:06 PM new
I think you people are getting to upset about sites trying to connect to ports. Unless there is software running on the port to interface with whatever is trying to connect you won't have a problem. Example: I can't connect to port 80 of my compter and view a webpage because I'm not running any web server software. Alot of sites used to check the Ident port(113 I think) but that's hardly used anymore. The only reason you should fear connections to your machine is when you have remote software running, something like backorfice. Other than that people just can't connect to port XXXX and start reading you harddrive.

Wex
 
 jarrettfan2
 
posted on August 7, 2000 04:49:06 AM new
I have had a cable modem for a little over a month and ever since it was installed I have used Zonealarm. I have considered purchasing blackice, but ZA seems to be doing the trick. I would say that I get 5 or 6 hits a day from people snooping around. A firewall is a MUST HAVE with a cable/dsl system.

 
 hammerchick
 
posted on August 7, 2000 05:28:24 AM new
We just got DSL and use Zone Alarm. Right after we installed it we were glad we did. My husband belongs to a gaming group and a man started posting messages on their message board trying to recruit members into his "radical" cult. They had to make him mad to get him off of there (didn't have anything to do with their game) and so then he started trying to get into everybody's computers for retaliation. This was our first bad experience. My advice is to be better off safe than sorry.

 
 jtland
 
posted on August 7, 2000 01:33:28 PM new
I use Zone Alarm and love it. It's still a good idea to periodically go to GRC and make sure you're secure. I had a program configured wrong, and it was leaving a couple of ports wide open.

We get lots of alerts every day. I'm sure that 99% of those are legitimate requests from a site I recently visited (ZoneAlarm says it can take up to 2 hours for the connection to shut down!), but I still feel better having that protection for that 1% who want to mess with me!




Lisa
 
 berkeley
 
posted on August 7, 2000 04:04:25 PM new
I use Zone Alarm as well and it is staggering to see the amount of "requests" it is blocking. Regardless if you have a cable modem or a dial up it is essential. I've been using a firewall for about six months, well before I started with cable and I was getting several "requests" with my dial up too. All it takes it a few moments...don't give them the chance!

BTW, stealth mode here too!


Here's your sign.

Not berkeley on Ebay.

 
 oxford
 
posted on August 8, 2000 02:48:17 PM new
How does one find out where port attacks are coming from?

ZA gives this information:

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (ICMP Echo Request ('Ping')) from 63.93.141.155.

I had a rash of these this afternoon, all from different addresses:

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (ICMP Echo Request ('Ping')) from 62.54.217.71

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (ICMP Echo Request ('Ping')) from 172.165.138.72

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (ICMP Echo Request ('Ping')) from 207.168.128.100

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (ICMP Echo Request ('Ping')) from 209.48.32.2

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (ICMP Echo Request ('Ping')) from 172.153.247.244

All within a about 30 seconds of each other.

Also had:

The firewall has blocked Internet access to your computer (TCP Port 1243) from 208.184.216.215 (TCP Port 8888)

The question - how do I find out where these are coming from? Especially if they are from international sites?

Thanks so much reddeer for all the information that you have provided. I had know idea how many attacks my computer was receiving - since downloading ZA yesterday, I have had about 50 attempts to access my computer.

Barb

[email protected]

 
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