Linda_K
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posted on October 19, 2004 03:16:42 PM new
reamond - It's NOT about kerry's protection of the 'clause' - it's that he doesn't even abide by his own church's teachings. Many HAVE left the Catholic church for that VERY reason...they didn't agree with their teachings and felt it was hypocritical to stay. Didn't change their belief in God...or other Church teachings.
kerry just gives his faith lip service for political reasons when he doesn't agree with the most strongly held beliefs of his OWN church's teachings.
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Linda_K
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posted on October 19, 2004 03:22:53 PM new
yeager - I'll be more clear.
NONE of the procedures you have brought up involve the killing of a human being. This does.
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And for all you who support kerry because he say's one thing and his actions prove differently....HE too has stated HE believe life begins at conception. So...don't tell me when you believe a human life begins....I don't care. But the farce your support does believe that.
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yeager
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posted on October 19, 2004 03:29:19 PM new
Well linda, you apparently believe that a fertilized egg is a human being. If you do, then you must believe that the eggs in the grocery store are chickens.
Bigots are miserable people.  Prevent Bigotry through Education.
Work to keep Church and State separate! http://www.au.org/site/PageServer
President Bush... the only true choice for more failed policies.
This long time republican is voting for John Kerry!
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NearTheSea
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posted on October 19, 2004 03:34:45 PM new
Ok then yeager, which came first....the chicken or the egg?
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Helenjw
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posted on October 19, 2004 03:39:28 PM new
"Well linda, you apparently believe that a fertilized egg is a human being. If you do, then you must believe that the eggs in the grocery store are chickens."
LOL, Yeager...
Linda, start with
The Official National Institutes of Health resource for stem cell research
Stem Cell Basics
http://stemcells.nih.gov/research/registry/
[ edited by Helenjw on Oct 19, 2004 04:22 PM ]
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yeager
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posted on October 19, 2004 03:43:18 PM new
NTS,
I can answer that question with a question.
What came first, the gear or the lathe? For those who don't know, a lathe is an industrial machine used for shaping metal. On the inside of a lathe, there are many gears.
Bigots are miserable people. Prevent Bigotry through Education.
Work to keep Church and State separate! http://www.au.org/site/PageServer
President Bush... the only true choice for more failed policies.
This long time republican is voting for John Kerry!
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crowfarm
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posted on October 19, 2004 06:15:37 PM new
linda, I believe you're being deliberately dense because so many have blown holes in you posts.
John Kerry HAS SAID he believes with the churches teachings that abortion is wrong. He also believes in the seperation of church and state and does NOT believe in making into law his religious beliefs.
THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE!
My last four cars have been red, bright red...I think it's the only color of car...I love it...I will never have any other color!
BUT I don't think they should pass a law saying everyone has to drive a red car. I firmly believe people should be free to drive any color car they choose.
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Reamond
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posted on October 19, 2004 07:56:38 PM new
it's that he doesn't even abide by his own church's teachings.
BUNK !! Who says he doesn't abide by his own church teachings ? Kerry has never had an abortion.
You seem to be unable to understand that many people do not feel it their duty to impose their religious beliefs on everyone else like the Taliban does.
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crowfarm
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posted on October 19, 2004 11:52:32 PM new
Excellent point as usual Reamond!
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Linda_K
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posted on October 20, 2004 11:16:33 AM new
Yes, reamond I understan that when kerry uses his religious beliefs and his Bible guotes that the left agrees with....helping mankind...the environment...THEN the faith he profess that leads him that way is a-okay with the lefties here. 
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Reamond
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posted on October 20, 2004 11:39:03 AM new
Yes, reamond I understan that when kerry uses his religious beliefs and his Bible guotes that the left agrees with....helping mankind...the environment...THEN the faith he profess that leads him that way is a-okay with the lefties here.
No one said that some biblical teaching are not in line with sound public policy.
"Helping mankind" and a sound environmental policy are not based on articles of religious faith, but rather on science and sound public policy.
Neither of these positions impinge on established individual rights and neither involve personal morality.
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