posted on November 1, 2004 04:42:19 PM new
Oh, linduh, you pathetic lose, you say, "Maybe this is a liberal trait....whining and name calling when they can't stick to debating the topics."
Ya Right, linduh and we've NEVER seen you neonazicons do that ! Ha!
Let's hear again how Fonda and Kerry LOST the Vietnam war....oh, my gawd.....can't wait for you to go PUBLIC with that statement....c'mon... do it....write the editor....write a magazine article and submit it ....c'mon, linduh, the world is waiting to hear THAT brilliant theory!
posted on November 1, 2004 04:47:18 PM new
Oh yes....appears you're also one of those rabid liberals that don't think those who honorably served our country should have their voices heard.
Well...thank heaven you're not in control...because I think many American's would like to hear from those who served in Vietnam...how they saw it...and exactly how they see kerry's anti-American actions during that time.
THEY not you rusty put THEIR lives on the line. Not YOU rusty...and they should be heard when they speak about how they see kerry being CIC of this great nation.
Now...take a chill pill....dream about what you wish you could call me but can't since we're PG-13 .. LOL And know it wouldn't change even one fact of kerry's actions....wouldn't change how one of our VN vets nor the POWs see kerry's actions ....no matter how many names you call Linda. LOL
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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posted on November 1, 2004 04:55:34 PM new
Ironic Linda. Trying to once again take the high road.
I would have been impressed if you would have had two links about John Kerry. One from each side of the story. Remember, there are at least two sides to every story (that is unless you are George Bush or Linduh). Did you do that Linduh? Nope. You just point people to what you want them to read. Present that as the truth, and then tell them to make up their minds. I wouldn't expect less from a hypocritical b!tch like Linduh.
posted on November 1, 2004 04:57:33 PM new
linduh spins another big mouth fart,
"Oh yes....appears you're also one of those rabid liberals that don't think those who honorably served our country should have their voices heard. "
Appears? Appears? Appears to whom? You? Hahahaha!
Then, she Hahahaha says,
"THEY not you rusty put THEIR lives on the line. Not YOU rusty"
(with correct punctuation).....
Well tee hee, hee,......"THEY, not you, george, put THEIR lives on the line. Not YOU, george.
posted on November 1, 2004 05:07:56 PM new
rusty - allow me to introduce you to crowfarm. You two appear to have the biggest problem being decent while posting. Such a shame...but maybe you two can talk to one another....since you BOTH have foul mouths...and love to name call. Two of a kind. Two out of control bitter, hateful people. What a shame.
I'll post a few more links that ought to help you REALLY calm down. Since you appear to believe hearing what those who HAVE served this country think about the traitor you want to see in office.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on November 1, 2004 05:12:03 PM new
On second thought....I'll just post the google link that has 108,000 links for vets against kerry... 108,000 LOL That ought to give the undecideds some reading for tonight...before they make up their minds.
Gosh....108,000 sites vet sites against kerry. WOW!!!
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner
Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
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Re-elect President Bush
[ edited by Linda_K on Nov 1, 2004 05:13 PM ]
posted on November 1, 2004 05:29:24 PM new "A war we would have won had it not been for the likes of kerry, fonda, etc."
Sorry, Linda, but no. We had combat troops in Vietnam for 10 years (and "advisors" before that). We threw more and more money & manpower at it over that decade. And we were not winning. Could not win unless we engaged in total destruction of the countryside & the people in it. Which would have put us in the role of "the bad guys."
Some lessons never do seem to sink in. I learned in grade school, while studying our own Revolution, that winning a war which is fought on the enemy's home territory & in which the defenders use guerilla tactics is almost impossible to win. We are discovering that in Iraq, as well.
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"Bad temper is its own scourge. Few things are more bitter than to feel bitter. A man's venom poisons himself more than his victim." --Charles Buxton
posted on November 1, 2004 05:49:58 PM new
Linduh- once again, pointing out one side of the story. Hmmm. Let's see. You claim there are 104,000 websites that are veterans against Kerry. How about them 1,050,000 anti-George Bush sites? Come on now... I would have expected you to at least let us know how many of those there were. Linduh, you are a very stupid person. Just fess up. You are nothing more than a spinner. Spinning in favor of Bush day in and day out. When will you present both sides??? I imagine never.
posted on November 1, 2004 06:07:47 PM new
bunni - I will give you almost unlimited credit for having the knowledge that you do available at not only your fingertips [the library] but also your extensive personal knowledge. truly.
BUT...[a kerry second statement ] you do not know the thinking of the communists generals who stated and gave credit to those like kerry, fonda, etc...for their side hanging in their longer. Their top General made that statement himself...and I have posted his exact quoted words saying so many, many times. Why you chose not to believe him...is beyond me. But I think, in this case, he knows/knew just a little bit more about that situation than you do. You weren't there....he was...and he was our enemy and HE gave credit to kerry for helping THEM.
So...no rewriting history allowed.
And the Iraq war is nothing like VN was. During VN we were worried about the communists growing invasions and take overs. In the Iraq war saddam present a threat, had for 13 years, and after 9-11 THIS president was not willing to let that threat remain. Nothing at all like VN.
But the one similarity I DO see...is that the left [anti-war people] are once again giving strength to our enemies. They too hear the news...they too know the resolve of some American's is waining...and they're using that to their advantage. Just look to bin ladens tape message....sounds like a kerry political ad.
And I firmly believe once our nation makes the decision to send troops off to war....we support their winning that war...not retreating...not admitting defeat. But the lefties here are once again aiding and abetting our terrorists enemies...and they're all hopeful kerry gets in office...so they'll once again not have a CIC who's willing to take them on...but rather one binladen will again refer to as 'paper tigers' like he did to clinton's lack of taking action.
The terrorists aren't going away...kerry's not going to get more supposed allies [who where being bought off by saddam to be against us/our votes in the UN] to all of a sudden change their minds. Each country as it experiences their own terrorist attacks decides to join the coaliation THIS President formed and they're working together against the terrorists.
Do you really think kerry won't need troops to get the terrorists as he says he will? He's said he's going to be sensitive....maybe he'll do like he did during the VN war and 'turn us over' ...tell the terrorists how sorry we are for our past actions...tell the terrorists we'll do as they suggest. He'll treat the terrorist with more sensitivity....like they understand that. They don't...they seen it as weakness.
We need them to see our President as strong and willing to confront them. Not as a weakling like kerry.
If the liberals/leftists had won out on public opinion during WWI and WWII, like they did during VN and as they appear to be doing now, we'd not be we are today. We would have given up on both building back Europe and Japan. We would have run from there too. But in the last few decades the left is just too willing to be a part of the world's 'blame it on America'...against the decisions our Congress and President has made to protect this nation.
Bunni - No kerry supporter ever answers this question. I know you're an Independent who is currently supporting kerry. But...if you're willling, why do you think kerry uses the excuse in this war that we didn't get allied support [which isn't really true] and he uses that as his excuse...and his claim as to what HE would have done. BUT even when we had allied support...lots of it in the 1990-1991 Iraq war kerry STILL VOTED AGAINST IT. saddam was killing millions of his own people, invading another country....he had [it's been proven] womd at that time....and kerry STILL voted against us going in. How do you explain that logic [imo - lack of] comparing the two Iraq wars?
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on November 1, 2004 06:13:12 PM new
Let's see....you don't want to provide your own proof of how vets feel about kerry...you think I should do your work for you. typical liberal.
There aren't 108,000 anti-kerry sites....read again....VETS AGAINST KERRY SITES....get it? Not everybody who's against kerry....just VETS. And just who thinks they're so much more intelligent?
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on November 1, 2004 06:16:36 PM new
Here you go, rusty....a google search using against kerry...
Results 1 - 10 of about 4,770,000 for against kerry. (0.13 seconds)
[picture the biggest smile you've eve seen ...right here.] LOL
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on November 1, 2004 06:26:38 PM new
anti bush: Results 1 - 10 of about 5,060,000 for anti bush. (0.38 seconds)
anti kerry: Results 1 - 10 of about 3,300,000 for anti kerry. (0.49 seconds)
You do the math Linduh. Looks like Georgie Porgie's in the lead by 1.76 million. That will be the only thing that Bush could say he won, and at 60% of all those sites, I would say it is a landslide!!! You should celebrate Linduh. Your candidate won. LOL. Linduh, you're such a dipsh!t.
posted on November 1, 2004 06:29:32 PM new
Here goes linduh again admitting defeat......whenever she knows she's wrong she wings off onto how ..oh, let's see...how uncivil we are....WE name call(neocons never do!)....how childish we are, etc.
This is her way of "answering a post that points out her idiocy. This is her pathetic way of ignoring the obvious like.....",......"THEY, not you, george, put THEIR lives on the line. Not YOU, george""
posted on November 1, 2004 06:33:37 PM new
LOl rusty - You don't understand...you don't 'get' it and then call me the 'd1pshit'. Now that's funny - but again normal for the 'rabid' lefties.
Again....exactly why 'you would never see a lib doing this - '. They can't even do the simple things for themselves.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on November 1, 2004 07:24:22 PM new
Really funny and pathetic, all these liperals attacking you Linda, yet none attempt to refute the facts (becasue they know it is true) I posted about the turncoat kerry.
Hey, hey Ho, ho Kerry - sign the 1-8-0
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
posted on November 1, 2004 07:49:28 PM new
I agree 100%, bear. It's pathetic alright.
I've asked over and over and still have no answer from even ONE kerry supporter as to why they believe kerry when he says we needed more allies to go into this conflict/war. When we can look to the 1990-1991 war and see we did have all kinds of allies and KERRY STILL VOTED AGAINST that war.
There's so much they can't defend about kerry's actions...all thoughout his political career. But they don't care....they're the 'anybody but Bush' club.
Put a traitor in office...he's all they have.
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"And they, the interrogator went through all of these statements from John Kerry. He starts pounding on the table. 'See here, this naval officer, he admits that you are a criminal.'" Excerpt from "Stolen Honor"
- James H. Warner Former Vietnam POW
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"I will never submit America's national security to an international test. The use of troops to defend America must never be subject to a veto by countries like France. The President's job is not to take an international poll -- the President's job is to defend America." --President George W. Bush
~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Re-elect President Bush
posted on November 2, 2004 08:58:09 AM new
We need allies because we must live on this planet. If we make enemies of everyone on earth we WILL be defeated....there are more of them than there are of us!
We need allies because NOW WE are paying for 90% of the cost of the war in Iraq. Paying for it will go on and on for generations....what a rotten legacy to leave our children and their children and their grandchildren.......
A traitor is someone who refuses to fight in battle for his country.
A traitor is in charge but allows a CIA agent to be outed by one of his people,an act of treason, and does nothing about it.
posted on November 2, 2004 10:41:18 AM new
Hi Maggie!! Keeping busy...and staying outta de fray. (Some days these boards read like the same rolled over hay sh** everyday! But took a moment to post to your Fush Bush in the Bush; lol, or whatever it was!!
posted on November 2, 2004 11:12:02 AM new
Pathetic is Linda, Bear and the rest of the neocons who are watching their candidate slip through the cracks. Pathetic are these neocons who want to attack a person over something that happened 30+ years ago crying about being a traitor. Here is a clue Linduh. You should have thought of then back then, but you didn't. Why now? Why all of the current backlash from the neocons? Because Kerry threatens your nazi ideology of Neoconservatism. You have proven time and time again how shallow you are. You should have stood up and filed charges in the early 70's, but now that your dictator in charge is falling off of his perch, you want to cry about it. You are nothing but a hypocrite. You're a waste of human life and you are anti-American and Anti-soldiers. It is so sad that neocons like you find it soooooo damn important to attack someone who is running for Presidency long after the fact that he spoke out against the injustices of the Vietnam war. You should be ashamed of being anti-military.
posted on November 2, 2004 11:33:04 AM newPathetic are these neocons who want to attack a person over something that happened 30+ years ago crying about being a traitor
Once a traitor always a traitor, kerry is the one that opened the door about his military service (from 30 years ago) by opening his campaign with his war record. Fact is fact.
Doc on kerrys own web site prove he was a traitor, His honorable discharge was issued under carters "deserter amnesty" program.
Hey, hey Ho, ho Kerry - sign the 1-8-0
"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The person who has nothing for which he is willing
to fight, nothing which is more important than his own personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself."
--John Stuart Mill
posted on November 2, 2004 11:45:38 AM newThere aren't 108,000 anti-Kerry sites....read again....VETS AGAINST KERRY SITES....get it?
If you google vets against Bush you get 190,000 sites...against bush you get 7,350,000
BUT even when we had allied support...lots of it in the 1990-1991 Iraq war kerry STILL VOTED AGAINST IT
Along with 46 other senators. the vote was 52-47 in favor. In the House the vote was 250-183 in favor You make it seem as if Kerry was one of a few that did not support the war.
There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." —George W. Bush, Nashville, Tenn., Sept. 17, 2002
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