posted on November 19, 2004 11:29:34 AM new
I agree, etexbill, that would make them genuine contenders..
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Back on topic....I think President Bush put Condi Rice in this position because he not only felt she would do a great job...but because he can trust her. Trust being very important to this man of good character. The more 'slots'/Cabinet seats he can fill with trusted people...even dems he feels he can trust...the better his administration will be able to advance his priorities. He will not have to worry about all the 'leaks' the ones who couldn't be trusted kept dropping....the backstabbers...they'll all be [hopeful] a team....a strong team working for the best interests of this Nation.
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And I'm beginning to think many in the democratic party are showing what racists they really are. Three cartoons making fun of Condi....many articles that if a Republican was making the same statements about her the left would be having a field day with claims or racism. Not pretty...no matter which party is being racist....but since the left blames the right all the time....it appears they need to clean up their own house first.
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posted on November 19, 2004 11:37:00 AM new
Yep, I see on the news today where a radio talk show host in Madison, Wisconsin called her an "Aunt Jemima", and Colin Powell an "Uncle Tom".
Disgraceful, he should be fired at once!(But that's Madison WI for you).
posted on November 19, 2004 11:41:56 AM new
You can't take a few racists from a group - either right or left and label the entire group racist. It's equally dumb to consider a talk show host representative of all people in Madison Wisconsin.
posted on November 19, 2004 11:59:42 AM new
And when called on to apologize for the Aunt Jemima statement....the radio host said he'd be glad to....for insulting Aunt Jemima.
Helen....read more carefully. ...no one said ALL. But the cartoonist of Doonsday was one of them that made a racist 'cartoon' about here. And many on the left just think Gary's perfect.
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posted on November 19, 2004 12:02:53 PM new
Etex.. I agree..
Find a charismatic, moderate, middle-of-the road democrat from the south. Someone who believes that the government can’t fix everything. Someone who tells the liberal elite media to butt out. Someone who tells the Hollywood crowd to back off. Someone who can bring back the beliefs that made the democratic party the party of the people many years ago.
Who indeed??? David Duke? Okay.. bad joke..
Back to Condi.. and... Powell...what part of "ya's Maser" or "lapdog "do you find most objectionable ?...the name calling, or the act of behaving as such???
posted on November 19, 2004 12:09:07 PM new
First, linda you need to read your own statement....
You said, "Not pretty...no matter which party is being racist....but since the left blames the right all the time....it appears they need to clean up their own house first.
You are referring to party...not to a few people who drew cartoons or wrote articles. In the case of the radio station host, you are referring to one person...not the entire city of Madison Wisconsin. The actions of a few people does not make a party racist. If that illogical conclusion was accepted, the Republican Party would be racist also.
posted on November 19, 2004 12:11:43 PM newLiberal Racism: A Little Perspective
Both before and after her elevation to secretary of state, Condoleezza Rice has been the target of a series of racist caricatures by liberal cartoonists. Rush Limbaugh points out three: a Doonesbury strip by Garry Trudeau that refers to her as "Brown Sugar," a Jeff Danziger cartoon that portrays her as Prissy from "Gone With the Wind" (also the topic of a Wall Street Journal editorial last month) and, most recently, a Tuesday political cartoon from Pat Oliphant that depicts the secretary-designate as a parrot with enormous lips. (This seems to be a running feature; yesterday's Oliphant cartoon does it also, this time with President Bush as a pirate.) Blogger Winfield Myers catalogues other examples.
Limbaugh is incensed by these displays of bigotry and hypocrisy (emphasis his):
It is grotesque. It is insulting. It is vile. It is angry. It is childish, and it is typical I think of what the left has become.
They claim to be holy [sic] than thou. They claim to be above all of us when it comes to understanding the downtrodden and minorities. They claim to be the only ones that have the ability to have the compassion and understanding, and yet they get away with racism. They get away with bigotry. They get away with sexism, and they get away with homophobia--and in the case of Condoleezza Rice, they get away with an attempted character destruction of a truly brilliant and accomplished woman who came from nothing to become the first black female secretary of state.
Myers echoes the point: "This is part and parcel of the left's embrace of moral and intellectual nihilism, which in turn has led to a belief that the ends for which they labor justify the means."
We don't really disagree with any of this, but it strikes us that the outrage, while understandable, is perhaps a bit overwrought.
It's not as if the works of Trudeau, Danziger and Oliphant are going to provoke an outbreak of lynching or cross-burning. These expressions of racial prejudice don't actually diminish Rice's accomplishments, and they are not going to prevent her from becoming one of the most powerful people in the world. These cartoonists have merely proved to the world that they are prejudiced against blacks who don't share their views--and that's good to know.
The absence of outrage from the liberal sensitivity police, who would be up in arms if a conservative cartoonist committed a similar offense (cf the reaction to National Review's 1997 cover depicting the Clintons as Asians, second item), shows that liberals are hypocrites when it comes to race--and that, too, is useful to know.
We got an insight into contemporary liberal attitudes toward race on a taxi ride not long ago. We were en route to Shea Stadium along with fellow conservative commentator Joel Mowbray, and our driver was a youngish Haitian woman who had her radio tuned to Air America. Mowbray started a political discussion with her, and she told him that she doesn't like Republicans because "they hate black people."
"Does President Bush hate Condi Rice and Colin Powell?" Mowbray asked, to which she replied that Rice and Powell aren't "really black" because they "don't think like black people."
The idea that black people are supposed to think in a certain way is, of course, a racist assumption in itself.
But what's most interesting about this exchange is that our driver had in effect redefined race so that it has nothing to do with race. When she said, "They hate black people," she meant merely, "They disagree with liberal ideology."
The charge of racism carries a certain sting because America has a long history of real racism. But the progress the country has made on race, especially over the past 40 years, has been nothing short of stunning. Here we have a president whose detractors describe him as a "radical conservative" appointing a black woman to replace a black man as the most senior member of his cabinet.
Even the liberals who attack Rice on racial grounds don't have anything against black people in positions of power per se. They're just desperately upset because those on their side of the political fence no longer have a monopoly on the belief in racial equality. They're lashing out in an ugly way because they've lost the moral high ground.
It's good for the country that no one occupies that high ground anymore--or, more precisely, that virtually everyone does.
Secretary of State Rice will stand as an example of the greatness of America, a country where, after much struggle, people are judged not on the color of their skin but on the content of their character.
We're confident that one day even liberals will appreciate this.
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LOL sure they will...
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Maybe while your were searching for your c&p you missed my message...
First, linda you need to read your own statement....
You said, "Not pretty...no matter which party is being racist....but since the left blames the right all the time....it appears they need to clean up their own house first.
You are referring to party...not to a few people who drew cartoons or wrote articles. In the case of the radio station host, you are referring to one person...not the entire city of Madison Wisconsin. The actions of a few people does not make a party racist. If that illogical conclusion was accepted, the Republican Party would be racist also.
posted on November 19, 2004 05:26:54 PM new
Did Condi Rice really "come from nothing"? as was stated in one of Linda's posts. I've read that both of her parents were university professors. I don't know the details of her family circumstances, but that seems better than "from nothing".
posted on November 19, 2004 06:55:50 PM newprof: your quoting of "Bushisims" was not an answer to my statement at all. I guess you have no answer, right?
It wasn't intended to be an answer to whatever statement you're referring to. Did I quote you before I pasted my Bushisms? Nope. You assume much in thinking I was referring to anything you may have said.
Surely you can come up with an intelligent discussion on what the democratic party needs to do to become the party of the people again.
I probably could, but that's not the subject of this thread, is it?
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
posted on November 19, 2004 07:04:31 PM newDid Condi Rice really "come from nothing"? as was stated in one of Linda's posts.
Hardly. Her father was Vice-Chancellor of the University of Denver, where, suprise surprise, she got her first degree at the age of 19. Came from nothing, yeah.....
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
posted on November 19, 2004 07:06:38 PM new
Wait, maybe it was assumed she came from nothing because she's black...nah-h-h, never mind.
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
posted on November 19, 2004 07:17:12 PM new
Profe -that ugly thought went through my mind too (that others assumed she came from nothing because she is black)
posted on November 19, 2004 07:38:23 PM new
Her devoted parents—Angelena, who taught music and science at an all-black high school, and John, who pastored Birmingham's Westminster Presbyterian Church, was dean of the historically black Stillman College, and later the vice chancellor of the University of Denver—saw to it that their daughter had the best things in life. Though not without struggle, they gave her a rare family pedigree, a devout faith, and a strong sense of self-worth.
I believe they were referring to her 'roots'...her grandfather.
edited to add:
She speaks proudly of her "Granddaddy Rice," who died two years before her birth. One day John Rice, Sr., decided that he "needed to get book learning" and began looking for places where "a colored man could go to school." He ended up in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, in 1918 at Stillman College, a small, white-run seminary that trained black men as Presbyterian ministers. He was born Methodist and one of nine children of former house slaves but decided that becoming a Presbyterian was his ticket to an education and an influential social post that he could use to help others. It appears to have been a wise choice. Granddaddy Rice's family has been Presbyterian ever since.
But the cartoonist of Doonsday was one of them that made a racist 'cartoon' about here. And many on the left just think Gary's perfect.