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 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 2, 2005 11:01:17 AM new
Typical doctor Stopwhining. They tell you which pill to take for excess acid but never tell you how simple it is to prevent it in the first place because they're owned by the drug companies - the free drugs, the free trips, free cars, free dinners... you name it - sell our drugs and we'll buy you a fancier lifestyle.

Not all, but many are just professional drug dealers. They make you believe you can't live a decent life without these particular drugs - you believe the sales pitch and you or your insurance company (that you pay into) ends up paying big bucks for some fancy named drug that has a generic equivalent for less than half price. Have any of you had your doctor write you a prescription for a generic drug without asking? And since people can't write their own prescriptions, who's responsible for the misuse of antibiotics?

(Sorry for the rant. )



 
 stopwhining
 
posted on January 2, 2005 01:25:08 PM new
i dont believe doctors tell you whether you should take generic or brand name,it is the pharmacist who advises you there is a generic available.
as to docs acting like drug pushers,dispensing drug without advising us on lifestyle change,well,docs are fedup advising patients as people dont change their lifestyle,they may as well save their energy to battle their nagging wives once they get home.
How many doctors have succeeded in advising patients to quit smoking,please raise your hand??
But then i recall once i broke my leg and my neigbor fractured her finger,her doctor never advise her to drink milk and i heal faster than she did.
Not that mine advised me on milk as i dont even like milk,but the first day i just instinctively go for that cup of milk meant for cereal and as long as i was in a cast,i drank 3 tall glasses of milk a day,dont ask me why,as soon as my cast is off,i quit drinking milk.
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 Libra63
 
posted on January 2, 2005 02:21:44 PM new
Yes KD I have been asked by my Physician if I want a Generic. When he writes a prescription he says would you like the generic he never asks if I want the real deal. I have never been asked by my Pharmacist as I am sure they can but they have never asked me or anyone else when I was at the Pharmacy.

I do take nexium and if I stop I will be in a whole lot of trouble. My acid reflux is horrible and I have seen the pictures of my esophagus and I do have to agree. They are not a pretty sight. My physician said I could try Prilosec OTC but it does not work. It has something missing that the real Priolosec had and that Nexium has.
Misuse of antibiotics I blame on the Physician and patient. Example my husband calls the doctor and tells him his symptoms and within the hour he has an antibiotic perscription. I consider that abuse.

Well KD it might happen like that in Canada where there are free trips better life style for the Physician but not in the U.S. At least I have never heard of it. I have a friend who works for works for the Zoloft company and her husband works for a different drug company. They give no free trips. I worked in a clinic we did get free lunch, yes for everyone that worked there and there was free drugs left but were handed out to the patients when they needed them. None of them received free trips. I worked there over 7 years.


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 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 2, 2005 03:25:44 PM new
Stop, maybe it's different here. A pharmacist isn't allowed to give you generic unless they're completely out of the "brand name" drug prescribed, or unless it's pain killers (because they're dirt cheap).

Libra, you have a good doctor then! I'm not advocating going off any medication and I'm not really against doctors - I just get to ranting when drug companies are mentioned because it's become normal to take expensive pills (instead of less expensive ones that are available but never mentioned - at the VERY least) or change your diet. The big drug companies are banking on you being sick. They even make up names of illnesses so they can promote their cure-all pills. Erectile dysfunction is one of these fake illnesses and guess what?... they have a $40.00 pill that can help you out for a couple of hours! Nowhere do you see a pill-less healthy society being pushed.

As for the perks, they're a BIG problem in the U.S. because there are no price controls on drugs. Drug companies send doctors and their families on trips all the time. New cars, computers - all of it is given to doctors in exchange for them pushing their products.

Drug companies make HUGE profits for a reason and it's not good.



 
 Libra63
 
posted on January 2, 2005 03:38:00 PM new
I am sorry KD. I was in health care for 45 years and didn't see anything of what you said.


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 stopwhining
 
posted on January 2, 2005 05:09:07 PM new
It is up to the patient to decide if she should choose generic over brand name,some generic is just not good enough,such as synthroid.
Yes,the OTC priolosec is missing something and that dosage 10 mg is not enough.
I get my 40mg Nexium from Mexico (generic) and is good,each blister packed.
Any way,Libra,i am sorry to hear about yoor problem.
I stopped all that nonsence on nexium,prevacid,prilosec,alka selzer,galvscon,tums,rolaids , i watch what i eat and i chew gum during the day.At nite before bedtime i tale generic Reglan and it helps.
Just watch your diet and dont eat much before bedtime,and keep your bowel moving.
If you want to talk more,you can email me or start a new thread
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 stopwhining
 
posted on January 2, 2005 05:11:35 PM new
The motion of gum chewing and the gland secretion of saliva which contains bicarbonate is good for esophagus healing and neutralise the acid in your stomach,give it a try.
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 Libra63
 
posted on January 2, 2005 07:35:29 PM new
I am impressed stop. I have been taking this medicine since 1970 and I am afraid to stop because I have had some horrible experiences. Bleeding ulcers 2x one very serious and ended up with an 8gm hemoglobin. I was so dizzy I could hardly walk. Then I got serious about the medicine and didn't have problems until the middle 90's. Went out to dinner had a salad with chick peas and my esophagus was so small it wouldn't go through The radiologist doing my esophagram asked me if I had swallowed a cherry tomato. That was really funny. Of course I had an endoscopy and they dialated my esophagus and so far so good. Everything moves very good.
Since I get the nexium free I think I am going to stick with that as I am to old to start something new. Thanks for thinking of me....I appreciate it.



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 classicrock000
 
posted on January 3, 2005 05:10:54 AM new
"Just watch your diet and dont eat much before bedtime,and keep your bowel moving"



ahhh I dont think I want to do that, I like it where it is thank you.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on January 3, 2005 05:39:00 PM new
Kraft, if ED (erectile dysfunction) is a fake illness, do they give out Viagra or its equivaielent in Canada???

Not kidding around, curious... is it considered a 'recreational drug'? there?

I don't think the ED is fake, though the term is newer, I think its called being impotent? And I was reading there is things that cause it (besides being a heavy drinker or druggie)

See, if you tell me no, then wouldn't contacts be considered 'frivolous' or how bout lazik surgery?

OK stopwhing, I understand the gum chewing thing on acid reflux, and my esphogas is awful. The pain I get is similiar to a heart attack, its that bad, and I know what a heart attack feels like, so is it possible to get a url for this mexican place to get nexxium? Thanks

Going out, so be back later.
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 3, 2005 07:43:25 PM new
Near, being impotent is different than PED and usually caused by an illness, accident or clogged arteries. (Graphic talk ahead ----> PED is when you can't get it up on demand or maintain an erection for long. This isn't a disease, it's normal. Men (and women) are taught this is NOT normal and they need medication to correct things. (What couple doesn't look like they just won the lottery on those Viagra commercials?) Viagra was discovered before there was a need for it, so a disease called PED was created so there'd be a need for the Viagra.

 
 stopwhining
 
posted on January 4, 2005 06:39:45 AM new
naerthesea,
if you can grab a sheet inside the zantac 75 box,you will see a man with heartburn and the position where it occurs,it is where the heart is,many people think they have heart problem.
here is the site for nexium,i bot from them and all is fine-
WWW.SHARPMEDS.COM
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 NearTheSea
 
posted on January 4, 2005 09:39:17 AM new
Stop-thank you for the url

Yep it surely does feel like a heart attack to me, but without the pain up your arms. So I do feel for anyone expeirencing it!
 
 stopwhining
 
posted on January 4, 2005 10:34:53 AM new
for years,I thought i have angina at nite.
Until 2 years ago,I went to see a cardiologist and he told me if i really had angina for those years,I would have been dead long ago.
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 fenix03
 
posted on January 4, 2005 11:54:22 AM new
::as to docs acting like drug pushers, dispensing drug without advising us on lifestyle change, well,docs are fedup advising patients as people dont change their lifestyle,they may as well save their energy to battle their nagging wives once they get home.::

Great attitude. Glad you don't have a problem with it because that attitude just about got my doc sued and me dead. After a two minute consultation with a GI specialist I was prescribed propulsid. Lovely little drug which made me feel as though I was having a heart attack. I was a lucky one though... I only FELT that way. Propulsid was pulled from the market after being linked to dozens of fatal heart rhythm abnormalities.

Must have really pissed that doctor off having to take at least five minutes with future clients.

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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 fenix03
 
posted on January 4, 2005 12:06:29 PM new
Libra - I know this one is going to sound simple but water is one of the best cures. Drink 1 quart of water each day to every 50lbs of body weight. Other things that set it off are chocolate and excessive starch.

I started having problems when I was 12. My throat is an absolute disaster and because of the vomitting that resulted (up to a dozen times a day) so are my teeth. After I changed my diet I no longer take any meds and the only time I have flair ups is when I give in to my fudge brownie cravings
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If it's really "common" sense, why do so few people actually have it?
 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 4, 2005 02:02:46 PM new
I just re-read this thread and I sound like a know-it-all - I apologize. I just HATE drug companies. Not in a postal way, just the greed part.

Near, have you actually had a heart attack?

Fenix, that's pretty horrible for a young child to go through. You're very lucky.

 
 classicrock000
 
posted on January 4, 2005 04:09:49 PM new
" I just re-read this thread and I sound like a know-it-all "



well....we thought you were

 
 Libra63
 
posted on January 4, 2005 04:12:56 PM new
Fenix I would be drinking water all day non stop. .

I know that water helps water weight but I didn't know that about acid reflux. I am going to start on weight watchers as I have about 40 lb. to shed so I guess since I HAVE to drink water on that diet I will find out how it helps.

How did you know I like chocolate. Peanut Butter M&M's my favorite. I hide them so nobody will find them. I also drank a lot of diet Pepsi which now I have switched to diet Sierra Mist. I probably had an addiction to pepsi, which I drank all the time, but now I think it is really the holding of the can I was addicted to because I really like that Sierra Mist and don't miss the pepsi. In fact I am going to have one while watching the Amazing Race.

Thanks for the advice Fenix.



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 stopwhining
 
posted on January 4, 2005 05:28:55 PM new
anyone with stomach problem such as acid reflux and gastritis should avoid SOFT DRINKS,CHOCOLATE,CAFFEINE,DAIRY PRODUCTS,PEPPERMINT,FRIED FOOD,GREASY FOOD,SPICY FOOD.

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 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 4, 2005 07:47:59 PM new
I am Classic. I just don't want to sound like one.

 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on January 4, 2005 08:05:14 PM new
Oh Gawd... I hate Pepsi!
 
 Libra63
 
posted on January 4, 2005 08:58:53 PM new
Stop. I guess that is why I take Nexium.




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 NearTheSea
 
posted on January 4, 2005 10:02:50 PM new
Stop, not eating any of those, whats left to eat?

Near, have you actually had a heart attack?

To make a very long ass story short, here:

iwasalwaysaveragesizethenigotpregnantforthefirsttimeandduringthatpregnancyicouldnteatnothingnadabutmyfirstamazinglyweighed9.6pounds!Iwassostressedraisingababyalone(dadwasneveraround)inadifferentstateIdidntknowanythingaboutbabiesIreallystressedsomuchididnoteaticouldn'teatthiswassolongagothattheydidn'tevenhavethedidisorderANOREXIAyetbutthatiswhatitwasandNOTONPURPOSE!itriedtoeatfinallygettingdownto80poundsandi'm5'8"tall,yesihadheartproblemswashospitalized,hadanotherchild,gotworsehadmorethingsgowronga6lbcanceroustumoronmyovaryandmorethatiswhyidontwork,BUT!idohavemyownmoneynotawholelotbutenough

SEE, that was a long story made short!!



 
 stopwhining
 
posted on January 5, 2005 05:39:10 AM new
there is still plenty to eat-boiled rice,boiled potato,boiled veggies,fish,shrimp,white bread.you can have a piece of sweets or fruit or ice cream as long as you dont overdo it.

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