posted on January 21, 2005 04:57:26 PM new
...most of the world does not agree with Bush's inagural speech.
By Mark Potter
Correspondent
NBC News
Updated: 7:21 p.m. ET Jan. 21, 2005LONDON - On talk radio here, President Bush's inaugural speech was a hot topic that was roundly attacked.
“You either fully agree with him, or he will blow you up,” said one talk show host.
Most of the reaction, worldwide, was negative. Predictably, in the Arab world, the response was even harsher.
“I don't think the U.S. has the credibility to promote democracy until it first solves the Palestinian issue and the Iraqi issue,” says Egyptian marketing manager Hany Fahmy.
Still, some Arab television networks reported the inauguration and played it straight.
But on Arab streets there is widespread anger that George W. Bush is still in the White House.
“They don't buy this sweet talk about democracy and human rights,” says Abdel Bari-Atwan, editor of the newspaper Al Quds Al-Arabia. “They want to see action, and they believe this administration is after the Arabs and the Muslims.”
The inauguration was front page news around the world, with largely positive reactions in Japan, Pakistan, Poland and Israel.
“I hope that in his next administration Bush will continue his global fight against terrorism,” says an Israeli computer engineer named Adi Lev. “I think this is something that is common to all of us.”
In Germany, there is hope the Bush administration will at least keep its word and focus more now on diplomacy.
“People in Germany hope there is some conciliation; that the U.S. and European allies come close together again,” says ZDF-TV managing editor Elmar Thevessen.
But throughout most of Europe, where tensions still linger over the U.S. invasion of Iraq and threats against Iran, the response was less enthusiastic.
A headline in Le Monde, the influential French newspaper, called President Bush a "Planetary Fireman."
“Why is this guy giving us this sermon?” says French political analyst Francois Heisbourg. “Not specifically American values. He's speaking to us as if we elected him. We did not elect him.”
While there is hope for reaching some diplomatic common ground in the future, the speech Thursday appears to have done little to smooth the way.
What did the French say: "How can 59 million be so dumb????"
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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posted on January 21, 2005 07:30:38 PM new
Typical neonazicon back-in-the-dark-ages-bumper-sticker-mentality answers.
SURPRISE! Many countries give MORE foreign aid than the U.S. ! Other countries get money from other countries! WOW! Try a NEW idea instead of trotting out the old trite crap you 've been saying since birth.
We CARE about what other countries think in the hopes that it won't only be Americans dying in all bush's wars...present and future.
See, we ALL live on the same planet and should try to get along because there is no other place to go.......OH, I'm sorry, I'm sure such an enlightened view will scare you but remember..nobody died when they found out the earth wasn't flat....
And try to realize that if we don't make and keep other countries as friends .....our enemies will.
posted on January 21, 2005 08:01:40 PM new
And out of the total amount of aid the US gives to foreign countries, more than a third of it goes to Israel for their military.
posted on January 21, 2005 09:33:52 PM new
In regards to the profe's graph.....just makes me shake my head in total disbelief.
That the liberals never think the US does enough...when we do more than any other country....and more than many countries put together.
But let's get our little graphs that don't support the FACTS...dollar per dollar given. No....let's just don't include ALL the US gives...so that way we have a distorted view of what we really do for the world.
Read some of just how they come up with these graphs....and how they totally choose to discount what the US does....it's just not PC in the World Economics....no...all countries think we're 'stingy' as we heard when the tidal waves occurred. How extremely sad. WE were the first on the scene with our MILITARY helicopters, that the lefties and the World Organizations refuse to include in our generosity. What other countries were there on the spot and had 11,000 of THEIR military soldiers delivering food, water and medical supplies using THEIR military equipment?
No....the left just feels so much better when they can 'slam' their own country when it gives so much to help others. How extremely sad.
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8. Don't the United States and Japan give more aid and import more goods from developing countries than any other rich country? How come they don't come out on top? Why do small countries such as Denmark and the Netherlands rank so well instead?
The Index assesses policy effort rather than impact. The United States and Japan give more aid in absolute terms, but they are among the least generous once the size of their economies is taken into account. The top-scoring countries give a lot of aid in proportion to gross domestic product and/or have relatively low trade barriers and/or generate relatively little pollution, and so on.
[ edited by Linda_K on Jan 21, 2005 09:36 PM ]
posted on January 21, 2005 09:38:57 PM new
Then we have kiara ....who appears to me to begrudge the fact that the US suppliments Israel so that they are able to defend just being on this planet ....against the Muslims who would LOVE nothing better than to see them totally removed as a race.
Yes, that just oh so terrible. NOT!!!
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posted on January 21, 2005 09:42:04 PM new
THEN....we have the man/woman who THINKS FALSLY that he/she is the 'enlightened one'. ROFLMHO
he/she says: See, we ALL live on the same planet and should try to get along because there is no other place to go...
but all we need to do is view how extremely well he/she does at "getting along" with the few who post here. LOL.... I can only imagine how many he/she'd get along with as the numbers of people increased. That's truly funny.
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posted on January 21, 2005 09:51:33 PM new
Where are the graphs that display how much individual American's donate/give everytime there's a tragic event somewhere in the world.
Want to see some generous figures? Take a look at just how generous American's are.
How many liberals even take those donations into consideration while they're so busy pointing out how little we do.
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posted on January 21, 2005 09:57:02 PM new
Individuals all over the world are helping out by giving aid to other countries, it's always been that way. The citizens of the US are not the only people that do that. Lose your Neocon attitude, Linda_k and peek out beyond your box.
Crowfarm is right......
See, we ALL live on the same planet and should try to get along because there is no other place to go.......
posted on January 21, 2005 09:58:53 PM new
Like I need your permission to do so, kiara. I don't.
Just the facts huh? So then you support our funding Israel's defense so they can continue to be allowed to live in the middle of a God-forsaken place where their neighbors would like NOTHING better than to see them erased off the face of the earth? yea...right.
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posted on January 21, 2005 10:37:44 PM new
It's a bit difficult to try to reasonably discuss anything with you Linda_K because you are so close-minded and hate-filled when it comes to thinking of other countries besides your own.
We've been down that road many times before and since I have love for many countries I'm not the one to discuss this with because you will only get more angry at me as you don't agree with my view of this world.
Remember, when anyone is really nasty over a period of time and only thinks of themself and no one else on this planet, the nastiness gets etched on their face as well as their soul..... you don't want that to happen to you. Just some friendly advice.
posted on January 21, 2005 10:43:48 PM new
Normal kiara, MO. Gets asked a question...she just can't answer.
The US has pledged 350 million dollars....individual US citizens have as of today contributed 200 million more. Charities believe the cash will continue rolling in.
When your country decides to pay it's own way with it's own military.....THEN how we should spend our own money might mean a little more. But Canada just like most of the world depends on the US military when push comes to shove...whether in times of conflict or times of great need.
THOSE are the facts kiara. So run away like you always do when any question is put to you. Others were right...you only pop in to make your little negative remarks...then out again.
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updated figures - maybe some leftie here can post some that show what other countries are matching our generousity.
Report from the Scene:
I have just returned from a visit to the region accompanying Secretary Powell. Let me give you some of my observations on conditions, progress with the relief efforts, and the next steps.
The U.S. has a 40 person Disaster Assistance Response Team, (DART) and 109 USAID Mission employees who are directly involved in the tsunami response efforts.
There are dozens of NGOs working - we met with some of them.
Over 13,000 U.S. military personnel, 21 vessels, 41 aircraft, and 48 helicopters have been engaged - expending $5-6 million a day.
Pledge:
The President has pledged the full support of the United States to the peoples affected by this disaster as they rebuild their communities and their lives. The United States is making an initial pledge of $350 million to the relief and reconstruction effort. Based on completion of the assessments the U.S. is prepared to consider additional funding.
This effort clearly demonstrates the major shift in how relief, reconstruction and development have become global issues, not just the purview of the "Official Development Assistance" donor community.
We must recognize the generosity of private citizens and corporations around the world. Contributions directly from American citizens and corporations directly to U.S. private organizations have already reached well over $300 million and are growing every day.
[ edited by Linda_K on Jan 21, 2005 10:52 PM ]
posted on January 22, 2005 12:33:17 AM new
::Then we have kiara ....who appears to me to begrudge the fact that the US supplements Israel so that they are able to defend just being on this planet ....against the Muslims who would LOVE nothing better than to see them totally removed as a race. ::
Hey - maybe if we stopped giving them so much baseless support they would get off their high horse and stop using every excuse possible to actually discuss peace. Come on Linda - even our own leadership is trying to send a message to Israel that they are digging their own grave and they don't give a damn. The Israelis don't want peace, it'll dilute their ability to play the sympathy card.
Look at the history. Everytime they get ready for peace talks or negotiations some suicide bomber attacks and they back out. If they really wanted peace, would they acquiesce to individual terrorists? The best part though is those time when things are moving along and it's almost time for them to really make good on promises and there are no terrorist acts. It is then that they incite them. Send a couple bombers above residential neighborhoods to take out half the block in search of some unnamed "suspect" or decide that there are a few dozen homes too close to a fence so they mow them down. Shock of shock, Palestinian militant decides to blow himself up and once again the Israelis have another excuse.
I think it's about damn time the world tells Israel "You made your Bed....".
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posted on January 22, 2005 01:32:07 AM new
Linda_k, it's not that I can't answer. I chose not to for the reasons I stated above. See, you are already up in the air about Canada, which had nothing to do with the conversation.
Canada only has about 32 million people so it doesn't have a large military but then again they don't start unnecessary and ruthless wars like Bush did because they believe in spending their money on peace-keeping and foreign aid to make the world a better place and the citizens are very generous.
Others were right...you only pop in to make your little negative remarks...then out again.
Which others? Show me. I posted one fact and you immediately attacked me because you took it as a negative. But yes, I only pop in now and again because I spend my life doing lots of other things like working and having fun. Heck, if I sat here 24/7 I might end up with only a battery operated device to keep me happy!
Here is one list of donor countries for the tsunami relief that also shows aid per capita. Ottawa has announced that it will match all personal donations that were made up until Jan 11 and the Provincial donations will also be added so the figure will jump to about $600 million US. The US military is doing some wonderful work in the disaster area.
posted on January 22, 2005 04:08:46 AM newThe United States and Japan give more aid in absolute terms, but they are among the least generous once the size of their economies is taken into account.
Uh, yeah. That's the point, Linda. You restated it for me quite well, Thanks!
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posted on January 22, 2005 05:26:37 AM new
Damn I would like to see the US at the bottom of that graph in all areas...
I guess you never heard of nationalism have your kiara?
To love one's own country over the others of this world is not a bad thing... try it some time... oh wait you're one of the "I can't decide which country to be a citizen in"... people... just what we need another person who can't make a decision... no wonder you like kerry so much and hate President Bush... don't like men who make decisions?
posted on January 22, 2005 05:54:08 AM newLose your Neocon attitude, Linda_k and peek out beyond your box.
Yeah come on Linda walk in other people's shoes for a change. Isn't that what you said. I know that must very difficult for you to do Linda because you are so close minded and lapdogs only follow orders.
Where are the graphs that display how much individual American's donate/give everytime there's a tragic event somewhere in the world.
It should be easy for the Google Queen to find them. One suggestion they are probably with all the Iraq reconstruction photos you claimed existed. You know the reconstruction pictures of the US soldiers riding on a camel.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
posted on January 22, 2005 06:19:10 AM new
I KNEW linduh would be upset when she found out the world wasn't flat but holy cow it rattled her brain so much she came up with another whopper of illogic!
"""THEN....we have the man/woman who THINKS FALSLY that he/she is the 'enlightened one'. ROFLMHO
he/she says: See, we ALL live on the same planet and should try to get along because there is no other place to go...
but all we need to do is view how extremely well he/she does at "getting along" with the few who post here. LOL.... I can only imagine how many he/she'd get along with as the numbers of people increased. That's truly funny. "
Thank you linduh for thinking me as important as an entire country but it's just not true.
How does your hero bush get along with the rest of the world.....not very well-liked and that's not a chat room view that's a WORLD view.
posted on January 22, 2005 06:23:00 AM new
Oh , and linduh, I'm so sorry everything makes you "so sad" as you repeat over and over in your senility. I picture you just moping around your house shaking your head and being so sad, so sad, so sad.
If you weren't so nasty I could actually pity you. But your lack of original thought is well known and I expect we'll see many more..."so sads, so sads, so sads....poor linduh.............
posted on January 22, 2005 07:41:09 AM new
Twelvepole, where did I ever say I liked Kerry and hated Bush? I'm not overly fond of Kerry and I though I dislike Bush's policies and I think he's a bumbling fool with all the wrong decisions, it doesn't equate hate.
There is nothing wrong with being nationalistic but not to the point where one becomes so blinded to the rest of the world that they can only goose-step to their leader and worship him no matter how much he screws up and they can't recognize or admit any wrongs that he or their country does.
posted on January 22, 2005 10:11:53 AM new
fenix - Yes, I know you don't support Israel. I do. We've discussed all this before. I think it's working. The murders of Israeli's are WAY down...I believe the number was in the 90%....that tells me that going after the suicide bombers and putting up that wall ARE WORKING. And working very well.
I believe the Palestine people will come around now that Arafat is dead. They've been losing this battle for a very long time. And maybe they're beginning to see the light.
The US has supported Israel under many administrations....clinton's included. We're not going to stop now.
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No, kiara....you ALWAYS choose to walk away from any serious question ANYONE asks you. Blaming me for your own lack of courage to do anything except #*[email protected] been noted by others.
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profe - Glad you liked what I posted....it was from YOUR link.
The fact remains that the liberals aren't EVER happy with any amount given by our country. They just like complaining and would never be expected to defend [in words] the good we to for the world. But I don't see it being so important to give away your own ranch to help others. Liberals appear to me to have NO National pride at all, but rather choose to run their country down any time it's possible.
In actual dollars given.....we give and have given more than most. I don't think victims of tidal waves really care about anything other than getting food, water and medical supplies like WE WERE THERE TO PROVIDE for them immediately....the US....not anyone else.
We have our own citizens who have faced mother natures wrath too. How many countries are helping our people out? LOL yea...right.
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posted on January 22, 2005 10:31:24 AM new
Linda_K, do you know what 'per capita' means?
the US....not anyone else.
Don't you ever read or see anything besides Faux News and Moony Times??
Do you know how many other countries are helping out right in the disaster area along with the USA??
No, kiara....you ALWAYS choose to walk away from any serious question ANYONE asks you. Blaming me for your own lack of courage to do anything except #*[email protected] been noted by others.
Shove it, Linda_K. I may walk away from your neocon buddies stupid questions about my personal life because it's no one's business but I've discussed almost every other topic here. It's you that has run away whenever you're proven wrong. But it's useless discussing things with you because you're so close-minded, jealous and bitter that you immediately attack Canada.
Besides I have another room to paint......... I'd rather watch paint dry than your nastiness.
posted on January 22, 2005 10:41:03 AM new
Kiara.. I applaud you.. you can so easily chew her up and spit her out ... but I'd advise using mouthwash after..don't want any lingering rot left between your teeth.. LOL
posted on January 22, 2005 10:50:44 AM new
aww isn't that sweet maggienuthins is applauding meaness, yet slinked away like the slime she is when it was stacked on her...
LOL you're are quite the POS maggienuthins...
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
posted on January 22, 2005 10:51:54 AM new
Bush's original offering to the tsunami aid was $35M. It was only after people complained did Bush decide to up the amount. Or did Bush decide to pledge more to repair the damage cause by the Iraq War??
WE WERE THERE TO PROVIDE for them immediately....the US....not anyone else
The armed forces of Australia, Japan, Malaysia, Singapore and the United States have all rushed task forces to Aceh in the wake of the December 26 disaster which killed at least 106,500 Indonesians out of a total of more than 159,000 deaths in Asia.
Yes in Linda's eyes, Australia, Japan and Malaysia are "not anyone else". But when it comes to the Iraq war, Linda will include all those countries that have a small number of troops in the number of countries that are supporting US efforts.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
---------------------------------- "Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
you can so easily chew her up and spit her out ... but I'd advise using mouthwash after..don't want any lingering rot left between your teeth.. LOL