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 Linda_K
 
posted on January 25, 2005 07:31:04 PM new
parklane - But hillary says she doesn't support gay marriage. Maybe she's just against marriage totally.
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But I do love that logansdad offers two people who can't possibly be President. One not born in this country...the other who already took an oath to uphold the laws of CA and didn't....I wouldn't expect/trust that his word would mean anything the next time since it didn't the first time.


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 logansdad
 
posted on January 25, 2005 07:32:41 PM new
Linda, you asked for the names of one person. I gave you two. Then you had to put stipulations on their character. Now that's changing the rules. I bet you did not think I could find anyone.

You asked for the names I gave them to you. And Arnold does support gay marriages not civil unions if you took the time to read the quote.

Here is the name of one more person. Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.

I'm not going to repeat what I've said over and over to you by answering your questions again.

More of your tactics Linda. Run and hide when you get backed into a corner. It was two simple questions but since you refuse to answer them, that must mean you were on your husband's insurance because you did not have a job or decided to stay home and raise your children.
You have done this repeatedly Linda with all the questions I have asked of you lately. Why is that? Don't care to make a fool of yourself by showing others that you are two-faced.


I have brought up the insurance issue just recently so don't make it seem like this issue has been discussed for months on end. This was just one example I used to show what rites straight couples are granted when they get married. Legalities can be worked out in a will but why should they when the two people are in a committed relationship and so the exact same things as any other straight couple would.

You're not going to change my views on gay marriage.

And you still have not given a valid reason why gays should not be allowed to married. All your reasons are based on fear and religion.

and especially reading your statement about hoping for the deaths of our soldiers who are fighting for your freedoms all over the world....

NOW LOOK AT THE ONE THAT IS PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH AND TWISTING MY WORDS. What's the matter Linda, getting frustrated that I am pointing you out as a liar and a religious big got. Please point out where I said what you so wrongfully accused me of.



I think you've help push me over to being against gay unions also.

Go ahead. I am not going to loose sleep over your views. Why don't you write Bush and tell him all gays should be exported and sentenced to death, just like Hitler did. I am sure that will make you and your religious conservatives very happy. That will protect the children from the big bad gay agenda.

I will let you know when the Reverend Phelps is having a demonstration against gays so you can join him. You will fit right in with his organization.

I am sure the both of you will enjoy your time in hell.






Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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 Twelvepole
 
posted on January 25, 2005 08:01:41 PM new
I am curious as to why you think anyone owes you a specific reason for not wanting gay marriage?

It could be someone just doesn't believe that two people of the same sex should have a marriage... who cares?

Just like that same someone wants capital punishment for murder...

49 states have decided that gay marriage is something they want... you can either live with that or not...


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 Linda_K
 
posted on January 25, 2005 08:10:21 PM new
logan

stipulations on their character. Now that's changing the rules. I bet you did not think I could find anyone.

You still haven't. One can't run....nothing to do with his character...and the other swore to uphold the law of CA and he didn't. LOL While character may not be important to you it IS to many voters. We noticed that in his past election. The stats showed people felt Bush was more trustworth than kerry. Gee...I wonder why. Maybe because kerry kept changing his positions on all the issues.


Arnold does support gay marriages not civil unions if you took the time to read the quote. I read it and now I've re-read it. What part are you not getting that the CA voters voted AGAINST gay marriage and after your other offered candidate okay illegal gay marriages the CA SC ruled he acted against the law. It simple for Arnold to say that...knowing the voters have already passed the law against it.


Here is the name of one more person. Chicago Mayor Richard Daley.
So...you think the democratic party will put him against kerry, hillary, etc...more 'noticable' nation wide? I don't.


I'm not going to repeat what I've said over and over to you by answering your questions again.
More of your tactics Linda. Run and hide when you get backed into a corner.

I don't run and hide any where especially not from straw-grabbing lefties. I've BEEN answering your questions all day and they just keep coming. You go on and on asking more and more questions. Don't try and make it sound like I can't answer them because you're backing me into a corner, as you say. dream on.
It's because you keep bringing up the same issues over and over and we're already discussed them.


It was two simple questions but since you refuse to answer them, that must mean you were on your husband's insurance because you did not have a job or decided to stay home and raise your children.


Get this logansdad....being married has MANY benefits. Gays can't get married....they do however have the same options that ALL the other domestic partners have. That is increasing in more and more companies. You're asking to be made a special 'group' and get benefits that other domestic partners can't get either. That family who live together can't get. On and on and one.


I support traditional marriage as have ALL the viable democratic Presidential contenders....


You have done this repeatedly Linda with all the questions I have asked of you lately. Why is that? Don't care to make a fool of yourself by showing others that you are two-faced.


Others already have their opinions of me....and because I'm against gay marriage and don't want to answer nor rehash all your endless list of questions [that only are 'poor me' I'm so discriminated against.] doesn't mean I'm two faced nor a fool. I just hold a different opinion on this subject as the majority of American's do.


I have brought up the insurance issue just recently so don't make it seem like this issue has been discussed for months on end.

I wasn't referring to your most recent admission of your partners insurance...you've been bellyaching about wanting equal benefits for months....which insurance was one of...when you plead your 'gay' agenda for all gays.


This was just one example I used to show what rites straight couples are granted when they get married. Right....marrying has, since the beginning of our nation, always had it's benefits. But has also always been one man and one woman.



And you still have not given a valid reason why gays should not be allowed to married.

I like how you qualify it with 'valid'. That means not valid IN YOUR OPINION. Because as we all know...I have given my reasons many, many times. But in kerry's, h & b clinton's, gore's just take that my reasons are just as 'valid' as their's are. We like it the way it always has been....the traditional way.




All your reasons are based on fear and religion. No fear....what do I have to be fearful about? You keep repeating that too. Just because you do, doesn't make it true. You think this same way of the clinton's, kerry's, gores....and all those other lefties that don't support gay marriage. lol


and especially reading your statement about hoping for the deaths of our soldiers who are fighting for your freedoms all over the world....



NOW LOOK AT THE ONE THAT IS PUTTING WORDS INTO MY MOUTH AND TWISTING MY WORDS. What's the matter Linda, getting frustrated that I am pointing you out as a liar and a religious big got. Please point out where I said what you so wrongfully accused me of.

Nope...because no matter what insults you throw my way...I know the truth...you don't. You just get off on calling those who don't support your agenda names. Your problem...not mine.


Nope....not going to take all that time to look for it. You said you felt guilty saying that you thought about this...but it might teach some of us a lesson. We could feel the Irai peoples pain. Are you now denying it? You now going to be another lying leftie - say whatever it takes to convince some people?
lol


Why don't you write Bush and tell him all gays should be exported and sentenced to death, just like Hitler did. I am sure that will make you and your religious conservatives very happy.

What absolutely sick ideas you come up with. If you feel that way...write him yourself. Since I don't I won't be doing any such thing. Man...you're off the wall today.



I will let you know when the Reverend Phelps is having a demonstration against gays so you can join him. You will fit right in with his organization. I am sure the both of you will enjoy your time in hell.


WOW!!! What craziness you express. Purely delusional writings. I don't even know who the Rev. Phelps is....I use my voting rights and cash donations to support my ideals/views.


please get some MUCH needed rest...you're losing it BIG time.



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 kraftdinner
 
posted on January 25, 2005 08:36:53 PM new
Because Twelve, if a person believed something, they'd know why and wouldn't hesitate to explain it. People that are against gays/gay marriage know deep down that their excuse to hate, not like, (whatever word you want to use) is lame and has no foundation. When someone can come up with a good reason to discriminate, I'd love to hear it. Just because a person 'feels like it' makes no sense when other people's lives are involved.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on January 26, 2005 06:29:56 AM new
Linda and her legailities of getting benefits.

I supopse Linda carrys her will around with her all that time. That is exactly what "domestic partners" would need to do to prove the person they love is their domestic partner.

Linda tell me when you were denied visitation rights to see your husband while he was on his death bed. NEVER, Because he was your husband and all you had to do is tell the hospital he was your husband. Gays who have been living together for years and years have been denied this simply because they are not "married" in the legal sense.

I hope the next time you are faced with this situation I hope a hospital tells you to run home and get your will to prove to have a right to see the person who is on their death bed before he dies.



Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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"Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
 
 classicrock000
 
posted on January 26, 2005 06:44:55 AM new
" parklane - But hillary says she doesn't support gay marriage. Maybe she's just against marriage totally"


After being with Bill all these years,do you really blame her???

 
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