kraftdinner
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posted on January 25, 2005 10:42:04 PM new
The U.S. deficit is almost at a half trillion dollars. Does that bother any of you?
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classicrock000
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posted on January 26, 2005 03:39:08 AM new
[ edited by classicrock000 on Jan 26, 2005 03:44 AM ]
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classicrock000
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posted on January 26, 2005 03:43:53 AM new
If we collected every debt we've ever loaned out to every country on this planet(INCLUDING CANADA) since world war II we'd come out way ahead,so why should I feel guilty?
[ edited by classicrock000 on Jan 26, 2005 03:45 AM ]
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CBlev65252
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posted on January 26, 2005 04:02:10 AM new
classic
No, you shouldn't feel guilty. You should feel uneasy. YOU are the one paying this debt back. You and your children and their children and their children. No, you shouldn't feel guilty.
Bush is asking for another $80 million. Iraq - it's your war, you're paying for it.
Cheryl
"No drug, not even alcohol, causes the fundamental ills of society. If we're looking for the source of our troubles, we shouldn't test people for drugs, we should test them for stupidity, ignorance, greed and love of power." ~ P.J. O'Rourke
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profe51
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posted on January 26, 2005 04:06:17 AM new
Real Republicans are turning over in their graves.
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
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Twelvepole
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posted on January 26, 2005 05:06:24 AM new
How do you figure that profe? You talked to them personally?
Deficits during war time are not uncommon, as war is very expensive, it does however create jobs.
This will pass, so no it doesn't bother me.
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
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crowfarm
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posted on January 26, 2005 05:24:42 AM new
Classic, just once before you trot out the old trite, well worn BS maybe you should do a little research into just WHO owes WHO what....you may be very surprised.
And may find another reason America needs to get along.........
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classicrock000
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posted on January 26, 2005 07:47:01 AM new
"No, you shouldn't feel guilty. You should feel uneasy. YOU are the one paying this debt back. You and your children and their children and their children. No, you shouldn't feel guilty."
Cheryl-Im not worried about it..Im loaded.<snicker>
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Linda_K
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posted on January 26, 2005 08:06:01 AM new
$427 Billion....almost $100 billion less that had been previously projected.
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Bush is asking for another $80 million. Iraq - it's your war, you're paying for it.
Nope...it's OUR war and we'll all be paying for it.
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Anyone think our Congress is NOT going to fund the $80 billion? lol
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bigpeepa
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posted on January 26, 2005 08:08:15 AM new
Hey Kraft,
America is getting what they voted for.
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parklane64
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posted on January 26, 2005 11:49:40 AM new
I shudder. This won't continue. The world economy is turning from using the US dollar as it's benchmark. Consider Iraq as a bit of OJT for our Armed Forces. The real war is being fought in the financial markets and the pocketbooks of consumers. When Russians start hoarding euros instead of dollars, watch out. I have alleged before that the prime crime of Iraq was the idea of switching from dollars to euros for oil payments. OK, now Iraqi WMD's are suddenly a problem that has to be dealt with RIGHT NOW. And calling politicians to task for lying is like blaming the dog for farting.
Parklane recommends BUY euros and yuans, SELL dollars. The dollar is becoming the cotton candy of monies. Rainy days are coming.
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liberalism, the last bastion of elitism
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 26, 2005 12:02:12 PM new
Nice to see you back Bigpeepa!  I can't understand how Americans still believe this guy. Osama's goal is to bankrupt the U.S. and Bush is claiming there's no exit plan in the next 4 years for Iraq. How much more will that cost? Doesn't that leave the U.S. vulnerable to an attack having most of it's healthy troops elsewhere? Would the U.S. economy be able to afford another 911? How can a war on terrorism ever end to gain back the deficit when Bush himself said the war will never end? What am I missing?
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kiara
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posted on January 26, 2005 12:24:16 PM new
Wednesday, January 26, 2005
BY TERENCE HUNT
ASSOCIATED PRESS
Bush mixed up the budget and deficit numbers when asked about money requests he would make in his budget proposal Feb. 7. "It turned out that the budget was $412 billion for last year," he said. That's the figure the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office cited for the deficit last year.
"Now, the budget is projected to be at $427 billion," he added. Again, that's the figure the White House projects for this year's deficit.
http://www.freep.com/news/latestnews/pm2501_20050126.htm
To the Iraqis who face daily attacks from insurgents, Bush said: "Clearly, there are some who are intimidated. I urge people to vote. I urge people to defy these terrorists."
Easy for him to say, it's not his life on the line, is it?
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dadofstickboy
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posted on January 26, 2005 12:43:11 PM new
No it's not!
And that is Exactly why they should Vote!
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 26, 2005 12:45:23 PM new
The man's out of control Kiara, but it's like trying to talk to Manson followers to get people to see the light. I can't understand why people are so easily fooled by him when he seems so transparent to me. (??)
Parklane, another good post... what's up with you?
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Bear1949
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posted on January 26, 2005 01:40:05 PM new
Kraft it really isn't any of your business what the US economy is doing. Worry about the Himisexuals taking over Canada if you want something to concern yourself.
A word to the wise ain't necessary, it's the stupid ones that need the advice."
- Bill Cosby
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CBlev65252
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posted on January 26, 2005 01:47:51 PM new
Nope...it's OUR war and we'll all be paying for it.
Linda
I realize that. I was addressing the comment to Classic. If I were addressing it to everyone I would have used "our" instead of "your" or "you'll".
Classic
Cheryl-Im not worried about it..Im loaded.<snicker>
Me, too. That's how I can afford to live in Cleveland. <double snicker>
Cheryl
[ edited by CBlev65252 on Jan 26, 2005 01:48 PM ]
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 26, 2005 02:23:57 PM new
Bear, the U.S. economy affects everyone, especially Canada (you already know that). Maybe Bush should stop begging Canada to join forces in Iraq if it's none of our business.
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Linda_K
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posted on January 26, 2005 02:26:14 PM new
Hey KD - Didn't Canada have somewhere around a $640 deficit before Martin came into office?
I thought I'd read that he was making great strides with getting your deficit down. Keep your eyes peeled....in the next four years our's will be going down too. But meanwhile we'll probably have to listen to all the lefties here complaining that their 'favorite' programs aren't getting proper funding.
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cheryl - So glad to hear your aren't one of those democrats who are promoting division in our nation by playing the blame game. But rather understand that the democratic party supported the Iraq war too.
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Four More Years....YES!!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 26, 2005 02:28:56 PM new
The $640 would be million, not billion Linda.
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classicrock000
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posted on January 26, 2005 03:59:18 PM new
"Cheryl-Im not worried about it..Im loaded.<snicker>
Me, too. That's how I can afford to live in Cleveland. <double snicker>"
LOL
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Linda_K
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posted on January 26, 2005 04:58:48 PM new
KD - I understand....Canada at approx. 30 million people and US at approx 300 million.
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Four More Years....YES!!!
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parklane64
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posted on January 26, 2005 05:02:18 PM new
KD-
Taking my meds consistently. I'm loaded. 
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liberalism, the last bastion of elitism
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kraftdinner
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posted on January 26, 2005 05:10:30 PM new
What a miracle drug, Parklane!
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crowfarm
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posted on January 26, 2005 05:29:54 PM new
Kraft, I'm too lazy but maybe you could research how much money the U.S. owes Canada and then maybe how much of the old U.S. is owned by Canadians....and Chinese...and Saudis...and Japanese...
Boy, maybe we SHOULD worry about how we are viewed by the rest of the world.............
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profe51
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posted on January 26, 2005 05:51:27 PM new
Well said Parklane!
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
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Linda_K
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posted on January 27, 2005 12:37:56 PM new
And here's another view of our debt....
America's Declining Debt
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Over the next few weeks, the unveiling of new budget forecasts, as well as President Bush's budget proposal, will be followed by predictable, sky-is-falling coverage of the “ record budget deficits” that threaten to force up interest rates and devastate the economy. Many people will say that only tax increases can avert this calamity.
Don't believe them.
America's debt burden is actually below the post-World War II average. In fact, it's lower than at any time during the high-flying 1990s.
The misunderstanding flows from the obsessive focus on the budget deficit, which is not the proper measure of the debt burden.
Here's why:
http://www.heritage.org/Press/Commentary/ed012605b.cfm
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Four More Years....YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Jan 27, 2005 12:40 PM ]
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crowfarm
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posted on January 27, 2005 12:59:53 PM new
linduh, you're delusional.
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quatermass
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posted on January 27, 2005 01:07:14 PM new
I don't care how far in debt this country goes.
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Linda_K
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posted on January 27, 2005 01:13:32 PM new
Well...I DO, quartermass. And I think most people would.
I'd like to see many programs reduced or eliminated....like all the pork barrel spending.
But this article is about putting things into perspective....and everyone here knows I love giving a more positive way to view issues....to balance all the 'doom and gloom' posts.
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Four More Years....YES!!!
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