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 yellowstone
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:50:41 AM new
Crowfarm says; Does repeating things make them true?

and then she/he/it posts this in several threads; Ann Coulter is a self-professed whore......read any of her articles and it bears that out. Plus she herself has admitted to getting sex where ever she can. If Clinton has no morals and can't be believed because of the intern "scandal" why do the stupid neocons in here tout the well-used Ann.

I'll answer that....because she's a hate mongering NAME CALLING piece of crap who says what they like to hear.....like their heroes Rush(the criminal druggie) Limbaugh, Bill (Family Values Start with Phone Sex) O'Riley and DICK(F--You!) Cheney....just to name a few.....the kind of people that they adore.

CF, repeat this and lets see if it comes true; i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a fart smeller, i'm a smart feller. Now that's a good question.


 
 classicrock000
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:50:53 AM new
"Ann Coulter is a self-professed whore......read any of her articles and it bears that out. Plus she herself has admitted to getting sex where ever she can."


jealous crowfart??? too bad you cant sex whenever you want

 
 classicrock000
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:52:42 AM new
"If Clinton has no morals and can't be believed because of the intern "scandal" why do the stupid neocons in here tout the well-used Ann."


probably for the same reasons the stupid democraps tout the well used Bill with the funny mark on his dick.

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:54:36 AM new
Dear Slow Dubblefugger or Neroter or whatever you are, I will type slowly for you.

I , unlike Ann Coulter, do not pretend to be a journalist....stupid neocons don't hold up my writing as their bible as they do the slut, Ann's.
In your abject stupidity you fail to distinguish between the poster and the message.....
What my previous life has been has absolutely nothing to do with what Ann Coulter writes....can you understand that simple concept? (I don't think so but there's always hope).

The neocons worship her writing and at the same time talk out the other side of their mouths about "values".......she has none but this doesn't stop them from worshipping her......very odd, two-faced, double standard Republican BS as usual.

 
 crowfarm
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:54:50 AM new
Dear Slow Dubblefugger or Neroter or whatever you are, I will type slowly for you.

I , unlike Ann Coulter, do not pretend to be a journalist....stupid neocons don't hold up my writing as their bible as they do the slut, Ann's.
In your abject stupidity you fail to distinguish between the poster and the message.....
What my previous life has been has absolutely nothing to do with what Ann Coulter writes....can you understand that simple concept? (I don't think so but there's always hope).

The neocons worship her writing and at the same time talk out the other side of their mouths about "values".......she has none but this doesn't stop them from worshipping her......very odd, two-faced, double standard Republican BS as usual.

 
 logansdad
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:56:14 AM new
Linda if your decoder rings dont sell on Ebay here is something you could try selling:

http://www.presidentpuppets.com/


Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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 crowfarm
 
posted on February 11, 2005 06:57:27 AM new
yellowstone says,"CF, repeat this and lets see if it comes true; i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a smart feller, i'm a fart smeller, i'm a smart feller. Now that's a good question."


Well, it obviously didn't work for you, numb-nuts, so I guess I won't bother.



 
 logansdad
 
posted on February 11, 2005 07:07:56 AM new
Linda are you still proud of the president with these numbers.



The poll, conducted for the AP by Ipsos-Public Affairs, was taken taken Feb. 7-9 — after the president’s State of the Union address and the elections in Iraq and at the start of a heated debate over creating personal Social Security accounts.

Some results:

Adults were evenly divided on Bush’s job performance in January, but now 54 percent disapprove and 45 percent approve.
The number who think the country is headed down the wrong track increased from 51 percent to 58 percent in the past month.
Older Americans, especially those 50 and above, were most responsible for the declining confidence and approval numbers. Middle-aged people between 30 and 50 were about evenly split on Bush’s job performance.
42 percent approved of the president’s handling of Iraq, while 57 percent disapproved. That compares to 44 percent approval and 54 percent disapproval in January.



Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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"Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on February 11, 2005 07:15:18 AM new
LOL! ::very odd, two-faced, double standard::

oh ya, ya mean like your entire criticism of her based on doing the same thing you've done/or do?

You're a joker crowfarm. Not one thing you say can be taken seriously.

Now I hope you dont mind if I dont reply fast enough for you, as I've other things to do today. But I'm sure that wont stop you from keep posting the same thing over and over until you get a reply to satisfy your itch to toss a bone with someone. Besides, I've already told you; you bore me to tears. Go play squat and leak with somebody else please, or go borrow helens lovely scented sh** shovel that is a constant by her side and maybe give ghost busters a call. Perhaps when you reach them you will solve the world's problems with your pretty witty and wise retorts.



 
 Libra63
 
posted on February 11, 2005 07:36:36 AM new
Crowfarm says, "I , unlike Ann Coulter, do not pretend to be a journalist."

Then why do you correct spelling and puncuation. Maybe you are a wanna be journalist.

Remember the OP posted How proud are you?

This is the reason I posted the Pledge because this is the reason to be proud of America. It has nothing to do with democrats, republicans or any other political party.
There is always bumps in the road but the main reason to be proud is because we are free. We are in a country where we can speak our mind and not get hung. It is not who we voted for but that we could vote. If you think another country is better than maybe it is time to move. Remember the grass is never greener on the other side of the fence.

Why did you start this thread logansdad because evidently you aren't too proud of anything. Maybe you should move to another
country, one you could be proud of, one where you can do and get what you want. When you get up in the morning do you look in the mirror and say "I am proud to be an American" or "Iam an American and I am not proud to be here."

Another question for crowfarm. How do you know the values of Ann Coulter? You seem to assume everything about everyone. As you don't know Linda, or me or even dblfugger you think we have no values. But I think deep down you have none and you make a good front with all the crap that you post.










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 kiara
 
posted on February 11, 2005 08:58:50 AM new
LOL at you liberal posters who just can't FORCE yourself to say you're even a little proud of America.

Read this over and you will find that none of the 'righties' or the 'neocons' are able to say how proud they are of America. All they are doing is the same lame ass stuff they always do......... they choose to attack and be critical of the rest of us because they have no other way to possibly relate.

So why isn't Linda_k ragging on THEM for not proclaiming their pride? HUH?

Of course if they come running in now thumping their chests and waving their flags it's gonna look like they are just doing it to please Momma-Linda, right?


 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on February 11, 2005 09:01:58 AM new
As you all know, I am not the most articulate person here on the RT, sometimes my words are misunderstood because of the way they are written, other times it's because of the tone the reader puts on them.
But I have thought about the question asked in this thread and tried several times to give an honest answer.. but each time I got hung up...
My first instinct was to write.."of course, I am proud to be an American" but the more I thought about it.. a more honest and correct answer is " I'm so LUCKY to be an American........

I have lived in a country with a Socialist Government.. where people had to line up and sign up for everything...list, lists and more lists... waiting for permission to own a flat, or a television. A country where people were encouraged to sameness and not individualism..

I have lived in a country where the military ruled with a free hand...where your freedom depended on how much money you had to bribe the man with the gun and his hand out...where the average man had to learn at an early age to cheat, steal, and beg in order to survive.

I have also lived in a country where people were free, enjoyed a good standard of life, within a democracy...but had no identity, little patriotic pride, with no sense of belonging.... this was a country that didn't know itself and wasn't comfortable enough with itself to solidify and bond..

So to answer the question.. how proud are you?

I am proud of my ancestors who built our foundation... I am proud of our men and women who have fought for our freedom and our rights... I am proud of this Great Country of ours...... but mostly I am just plain lucky to live in a country where we are still able to have a voice, to disagree, to protest and fight for what we believe is right..... where criticism of our government is acceptable as our right of speech is one of our great freedoms.. I am proud to live in a country where we are a constant work in progress, always moving forward, trying to improve the quality of the life of our citizens...
Your party affiliation does not determine your patriotism.....to say so only serves to divide our country and take away our individualism...

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on February 11, 2005 09:29:47 AM new
Maggie, this is John Kerry's camp. We will be calling so please stand by and keep your phone line free. We are in need of such a talented speechwriter of your caliber.

lol!! Seriously, that was a good 'essay' despite the fact that logansdad claimed none were allowed here to answer the question.

 
 kiara
 
posted on February 11, 2005 09:49:40 AM new
Good post, Maggie. I think it's the people and not the government that are the true make-up of any country and there are good people almost everywhere.

dblfugger9 says:

Kiara, having pride in some body - body as in a country, some person, or some thing does implicitly express an allegiance to it. But I dont see how you'd ever understand that concept.

pride

1. a reasonable or justifiable self-respect
2. delight or elation arising from some act, possession, or relationship

allegiance

1. the fidelity owed by a subject or citizen to a sovereign or government
2. devotion or loyalty to a person, group, or cause

I can differentiate between the two meanings and have every right to do so as I live my life the way I choose to. If some prefer to meld the meanings all into one, that's fine by me...... whatever brings you the most comfort as you go through your life.

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you want to control others by telling us what to think or believe in or how we should believe in it.


 
 logansdad
 
posted on February 11, 2005 11:05:39 AM new
It never ceases to amaze me how some of you want to control others by telling us what to think or believe in or how we should believe in it.

You are so right Kiara. It is people like those above that would have fit in perfectly under the regimes of Hitler and Saddam. They all follow orders and reiterate what is handed down by the person in charge. They can not think for themselves. Well I have news for these sorts of people, this is not Nazi Germany or Iraq. This is American where people are free to speak out against things they do not agree with. If they do not like it perhaps they should be the ones that would prefer living under a dictatorship.



Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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"Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
 
 logansdad
 
posted on February 11, 2005 11:10:30 AM new
[i]Why did you start this thread logansdad because evidently you aren't too proud of anything. Maybe you should move to another
country, one you could be proud of, one where you can do and get what you want[/i]

Another one that wants everyone to fall in line and dance to the same tune. I am sorry Libra, you are another one that does not know what it means to be an America. You are just another conservatives that wants everyone to bow to your tune/beliefs/wishes. If you can't stand the fact that people in this country are different from you then you are living in the wrong place. America is a melting pot remember. It is a country made of all kinds of different people - race, culture, beliefs. It sounds like you would like it better if everyone were the same and bowed down to kiss your white ass. Get over it sweetie. That is not what this country was founded upon. Let me know if you'd rather live under a dictatorship, I am sure Saddam would love to have you as a royal subject.




Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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"Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
 
 logansdad
 
posted on February 11, 2005 11:21:55 AM new
Here are two articles I found on what it means to be an American

I do not choose to be a common man. It is my right to be uncommon...if I can

I seek opportunity...not security. I do not wish to be a kept citizen, humbled and dulled by having the state look after me. I want to take the calculated risk; to dream and to build, to fail and to succeed.

I refuse to barter incentive for a dole. I prefer the challenges of life to the guaranteed existence; the thrill of fulfillment to the stale calm of utopia.

I will not trade freedom for beneficence nor my dignity for a handout. I will never cower before any master nor bend to any threat. It is my heritage to stand erect, proud and unafraid; to think and act for myself; enjoy the benefits of my creations and to face the world boldly and say, this I have done.

All this is what it means to be an American.



America Means...


In conjunction with Veteran’s Day, we polled some students to see what being an American means to them. The following are their responses.
Kane Y. — “We have the freedom to do whatever (within reason). Our Bill of Rights protects these freedoms.”
Mona F. — “Being an American means you can feel safe about praying or laying your head on a pillow. It means we have the right to choose, whether wrong or right. We have freedom. We are Americans.”
Tanner O. — “What I think it means to be an American is to believe one God and one religion and have the right to be free to do anything you want.”
Cole C. — “To be an American means to me the freedom to do what I want and way what I feel when I want to.”
Anna R. — “Being an American means living in a free country and feeling safe about what you do.”
Delhi V. — “To be an American is something to be very proud of. We have freedom and also our rights. We work together to become stronger and we have a lot of pride. We also are a wealthy country and people can work to get what they need. We have many different jobs for everyone. Being an American is something I honor. I am proud to say I am an American.”
Jett C. — “To me, being an American means you feel safe, you have the right to whatever religion you want and the right to say what you want.”
Derek D. — “Being an American to me means I am free to do what I feel and say what I feel.”
Joey B. — “What it means to be an American to me is that you can feel safe, you’re free and you can say what you want.”
Kristin S. — “To be an American is good, because of the freedom and because you don’t have someone telling you what to do.”
Whitney H. — “Being an American means living in a free country. It also means you can step out of your house and feel a sense of security.”
Jesse H. — “Being an American means everything to me.”
Shauna S. — “It means everything to me to be an American, not only because I have friends and family who have been in the service and some who are in the service yet today. I am happy to be an American because it gives me freedom of religion and speech. It also gives me the rights to do things I want to do. Being an American means being free, but we wouldn’t be without the men and women in the service who fight for our rights. I love having the freedom and the rights I do and being free so I can worship God, go to Church and pray when I want to and need to. I think of the veterans and service men and women who gave the right to me and I pray for them to be safe, for that is what being an American is all about to me.”

From the responses received, it seems apparent that our students value the freedoms guaranteed by our constitution and preserved by the men and women who fought to defend them. Thank you, veterans!





Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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"Give it up for George W. Bush, the best friend international jihad ever had."
 
 Linda_K
 
posted on February 11, 2005 11:30:36 AM new
Pride for America comes in many forms. You either feel it or you don't has nothing to do with who the current president is - it's about ones feelings for their country, and what it stands for - the beliefs it was founded on.



This is one of my favorite patriotic songs...his whole CD was great though.


God Bless The U.S.A.
by Lee Greenwood
 

If tomorrow all the things were gone,
I'd worked for all my life.
And I had to start again,
with just my children and my wife.
I'd thank my lucky stars,
to be livin here today.
'Cause the flag still stands for freedom,
and they can't take that away.



And I'm proud to be an American,
where at least I know I'm free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.



From the lakes of Minnesota,
to the hills of Tennessee.
Across the plains of Texas,
From sea to shining sea. From Detroit down to Houston,
and New York to L.A.
Well there's pride in every American heart,
and its time we stand and say.


That I'm proud to be an American,
where at least I know I'm free.
And I wont forget the men who died,
who gave that right to me.
And I gladly stand up,
next to you and defend her still today.
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land,
God bless the USA.
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Four More Years....YES!!!
 
 Libra63
 
posted on February 11, 2005 11:34:46 AM new
Logansdad you are way off base. I said why I was an american evidently you have selective reading and didn't see it. Get off my case. You are upset that you and your "Lover" can't share the same kind of marriage I have, well It probably will never happen in yours or my life time. You homeschool your children so they don't come in contact with traditional families. Admit it.

You post nothing that helps America,the country, or the brave, as in our soldiers in Iraq. You are against every principle that you say you are for.

Go back and read what I have written and you will see why I am proud to be an american. where does it say you are proud. Where does it say I am proud to be an American because I voted Republlican. I never said that. The only thing you can post is nastiness about the election, and why or why can't gays get married. GET OVER IT. You keep pushing this down my throat and I for one hope it never happens.




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 Linda_K
 
posted on February 11, 2005 11:42:32 AM new
Libra - I never said that....I believe it's what he calls 'reading between the lines'. He obviously does that, as he has here...so he thinks others do too.

He's just one of the 'oh-so-angry-left' who are having adjustment problems now that they're facing 4 more years of someone he admits to 'hating'. His hatred might just eat him up during the next four years.


But I'd bet he's also upset because the Mass. SC is going to hear arguments about their state's gay marriage issue.
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 kiara
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:04:39 PM new
Where does it say I am proud to be an American because I voted Republlican. I never said that.

Libra63, who said that you said that? Where?

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:09:04 PM new
Linda, why do you keep saying the left (Logan, in this case) is having all these problems adjusting to 4 more years of Bush? In what way? Show me a post where he or someone has mentioned what a hard time they're having.

How does talking about the problems a person sees in the government equate to not adjusting to the Bush regime? I seriously think you think that because he was elected, everyone should turn into automatons and follow his government blindly. In your eyes, that's the making of a REAL American. In my eyes it's the other way around. The people who want to see change are the ones to be most proud of.

 
 classicrock000
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:09:58 PM new
good afternoon kraft-nevermind the bullsh*t.. ...is tonight still on??





[ edited by classicrock000 on Feb 11, 2005 12:11 PM ]
 
 maggiemuggins
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:13:05 PM new
Maggie, this is John Kerry's camp. We will be calling so please stand by and keep your phone line free. We are in need of such a talented speechwriter of your caliber.

LOL..sorry for the "essay"..it was wordy,wasn't it..

I will have to pass on speech writing for the Kerry camp... I have decided to sever my allegiance with the Democrats or any other political party for the time being.

I don't seem to quite fit in any one party, and find myself siding with the democrats on certain issues and the republicans on others.. so until the scales take a dramatic dip on one side or the other.. I've decided to grab a cushion and sit on the fence..

Right now, even though I disagree vehemently with the Republican party on many issues, I feel at least they have a plan and a mission... whereas the Democrats seem to be faltering and disorganized and their message unclear....
Maggie



 
 classicrock000
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:15:15 PM new
"I don't seem to quite fit in any one party"


<snort> and I thought you were a party girl

 
 classicrock000
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:16:14 PM new
" I have decided to sever my allegiance with the Democrats"


wise move

 
 classicrock000
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:17:53 PM new
"I will have to pass on gas for the Kerry camp"



another good move

 
 kraftdinner
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:22:34 PM new
Classic, tonight is OFF for sure. After our last encounter, I came to the conclusion that you and I have differing opinions on what a "monster" should look like.

 
 dblfugger9
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:37:04 PM new
I can differentiate between the two meanings and have every right to do so as I live my life the way I choose to.

LOL! She goes and gets the definitions and she still doesnt GET IT. Or rather, na-na-na-na, she raises the fake liberty torch and says she has every right to do so - to not understand the correlation of those words to the topic at hand - as if anybody said she didnt have the right to remain stupid. LOL!! In a democracy, anybody can be as ignorant as they want!! No argument for that here.

whatever brings you the most comfort as you go through your life.

Do tell kiara, what do you know about comfort or discomfort as it relates to pride in one's country? How many military's have you served in or how many of your family has been killed off in a war thats lead you to any conclusion of what brings comfort or not? You say youre more worldly then "the others" here and this 'comfort' gig is your new mantra (wonder where you ripped that one off from from?) but wtf are really talking about here? You dont even make any sense.
 
 Libra63
 
posted on February 11, 2005 12:51:35 PM new
Kiara here is your proof....This was said by logansdad and you can't denigh it. "You are just another conservatives that wants everyone to bow to your tune/beliefs/wishes"

Now logansdad of course Kiara's right as she has the same views as yours, but I do not have these views. I don't give one rats ass what you or anyone else thinks. I am a free thinker and I do as I please, just like you do.

logansdad said "You are so right Kiara. It is people like those above that would have fit in perfectly under the regimes of Hitler and Saddam. They all follow orders and reiterate what is handed down by the person in charge. They can not think for themselves. Well I have news for these sorts of people, who in the heck are you logansdad, who died and made you boss to do my thinking. this is not Nazi Germany or Iraq. This is American where people are free to speak out against things they do not agree with. No you logansdad are the one that doesn't agree with my thinking, but I honestly don't care. It is a free country. If they do not like it perhaps they should be the ones that would prefer living under a dictatorship." I think you just repeated something I said in a earlier post.

"How you lie about Americans that do not fit into your agenda. You are showing your true colors because YOU DO NOT fit and if you speak this way you are one of them." Of course Kiara will agree with you. If you think I cannot think for myself then you are the most stupid person. You speak out of both sides of your mouth. You can't understand that people do not agree with each other. I don't need to prove myself to anyone especially you. And I know I didn't want a traitor for the President of the United States.



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