trai
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posted on February 11, 2005 06:39:20 PM new
Just thought I'd add my two cents to this sideshow. I find it totally ridiculous for someone to come on and basically accuse Kiara of harassing or interfering with anyones auctions without a shred of proof and then trying to hide behind the words "might" and "if". How would you like it if someone did that to you, Linda?
I find this very unfair, Kiara may come out and battle with the rest of you but she has never struck me as anyone who would mess with auctions or backstab someone as she faces you right here. I've never had that impression from Kiara or Helen or Kraft or many others here and I've been around for years. Its ludicrous.
No wonder I don't post here much anymore, its absolute insanity down here. In my opinion this has gone way overboard. Anyone ever wonder where all the good posters like Reamond and others have gone?
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 06:51:52 PM new
So trai - Am I understanding you correctly when you only point out one incident that you don't agree with...but don't mention all the false accusations that those same posters, including kiara, say about others here?
Where has reamond gone? He hasn't posted here since kerry lost the election. He was acting much differently than he had before the election....like he just couldn't handle that Bush was re-elected. A reamond I'd never seen before...and I had always respected him before that.
But for you to come in here...after NOT being here for so long to defend kiara's actions....did you read her post FULLY to dblfugger? She plays her little part in what she gets here. It's called getting what you give to others. And if you think that I plan on having her make all her false accusations against me and that I'm going to hold any amount of respect for her or her character...you'd be VERY wrong.
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edited to add: maybe you'd like to give us your opinion of just what this statement of kiara's meant?
kiara posted on February 11, 2005 01:48:45 PM
btw, if I am the one obsessed maybe you can tell me why every one of my auctions are being pinged by cablerocket net vancouver?
Do you see any Telus pings on them? How about Shaw? Let me know your sellers ID and maybe I can ping them too if you wish.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 11, 2005 06:59:53 PM new
Trai, I really appreciate that comment! Most people reading here know the truth about Kiara. She and Kraftdinner are two of the most outstanding posters that I know both here and in Ebay Outlook. Kiara's good advice and instruction on Ebay Outlook helped me out so many times when I first started selling on Ebay.
Helen
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:05:54 PM new
yes...helen...and I have mentioned the same thing to kiara at one point.
The kiara that people see in the EO IS NOT the same kiara who pops in here only to start the BS with the 'righties'.
Totally different personality in both places, imo. One only has to read her post in this forum to clearly see that.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:15:35 PM new
Wait..am I the only one that understands what is going on here between dblfugger9 and Kiara???
First dblfugger says:
btw, if I am the one obsessed maybe you can tell me why every one of my auctions are being pinged by cablerocket net vancouver?[i/] [i]And I don't sell to Canada or worldwide at all.[ii] Guess my fans just stretch further and wider than I thought[/i]
Then Kiara replies: I've never harassed a single seller ever and if that person can't get over her lamp thread where she wrongly accused someone of stealing her pic, so be it
It was posted on the board some time ago where Neroter has accused Kiara of tracking her auctions, something to do about a photo posted on the EO about a lamp...and knowing what her ebay id was...
Now dblfugger9, new to the rt has insinuated Kiara is tracking her auctions..........
It is clear to me that Kiara's reply to dblfugger9 is saying that she believes dblfugger9 is a reincarnated Neroter....
Did I get this straight? Or is it all a figment of my imagination? Maggie
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Helenjw
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:16:22 PM new
No, linda. You are the one who posted the nasty and unfounded insinuation about Kiara. Just how do you justify that???
Answer if you can, without changing the subject and if you can, without launching yet another below the belt attack.
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:20:21 PM new
helen - this is REALLY NONE of your business. You're just a trouble maker...and showing your love and devotion for anyone who agrees with your political positions.
butt out.
no maggie...but we haven't see ANY proof that they are one in the same. It's been a guess by some. Remember how you felt with other's were "guessing" who you might be. As I recall it didn't sit to well with you either.
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Libra63
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:21:15 PM new
Kiara go back and read.............you posted this. At least it was under your name, someone using it instead of you?
Where does it say I am proud to be an American because I voted Republlican. I never said that.
This is your post. If you didn't understand it then you should have kept quiet. Libra63, who said that you said that? Where?
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trai
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:22:39 PM new
Yes Linda I read it all and I've been reading here all along. I don't remember Reamond coming back here at all after the election and too bad because he was a good poster. This isn't a matter of me defending Kiara she doesn't need me to defend her.
My opinion, Linda? I guess Kiara is showing that theres more than one internet provider in Canada and probably in Vancouver which by the way is a large city so anyone could ping an auction from anywhere. For someone to look at an auction its not auction interference.
I really don't care about all these petty squabbles. When accusations get thrown around for no reason about others interfering with auctions thats what gets my ass. I would feel the same way if someone made that insinuation about you or anyone with no proof to back it up. Everytime someone tries to discuss anything here it gets personal. And as far as the rest of the mudslinging here I'm sick of it so carry on, enjoy.
Hi Helen, while I can overlook most of the idiotic banter here I do take auction interference accusations quite seriously and when there is no proof that sticks in my craw.
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Helenjw
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:24:02 PM new
Linda To refresh your memory, this is what you said to Kiara....
Linda said to Kiara..."And now what. It appears you might be 'checking into' other posters auctions. I left to wonder if you've checked into crowfarm's yet or do you only harass/investigate the auctions of people who you don't like. how unprofessional of you...if you are doing that."
So you can't answer how you can justify that remark? It appears that you are the "troublemaker". And forget the possibility that I will "butt out".
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maggiemuggins
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:33:05 PM new
Wait.. Linda.. I didn't say that dblfugger9 is Neroter. I was trying to interpret the verbal intercourse between the two.
And btw.. I noticed that drdoolittle was posting in her last week again... I was expecting everyone to start up again about him being me... it didn't happen to my surprise..
Now.. if I were to play devil's advocate, and make a guess.. I would guess that dblfugger9 is indeed our Neroter.. why, you might ask? well.. since you asked, let me tell you... I have always enjoyed Neroters unique writing style and no one has ever even come close to it until now...as a fan of Neroters flight of fancy linguistics...I'm guessing she has been reincarnated...
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:34:57 PM new
trai - No...to be more clear...I did not notice reamond posting here after the election. And since he, himself, never mentioned why he chose not to post here any longer, I'm not sure he gave you permission to speak for him now.
As to the squabbles....and making things personal....therein lies the problem we face here, imo. Plus a lot of false accusations being made by those you choose to come support now.
On the auction interference...I think most decent people here agree our auctions are off limits....totally. But I'm not clear on why you're so quick to 'defend' what you have no knowledge of. You take one side....without any proof against another who believes he is being 'checked on' by some here.
I always respected that while we disagreed politically you were able to do so in a civil manner. I do not see the same character of those you come her now to defend. My opinion only.
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profe51
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:37:17 PM new
I'd like to "butt in"..
Seems like accusing others of messing with auctions is the new low blow. What a childish cheap shot.
Linda, I too would like to read the names of those you consider to be "ultra-LEFT". Why don't you anwer the question??
You don't seem to mind accusing others of auction interference, an accusation you could never begin to document, how come it's so hard for you to name those you think are "ultra-LEFT"?
Libra, your muddled maundering is priceless. God love you!! 
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Dick Cheney: "I have not suggested there's a connection between Iraq and 9/11..."
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:40:20 PM new
maggie -
I didn't say that dblfugger9 is Neroter.
okay...but it sure looks to me like some here do.
I was trying to interpret the verbal intercourse between the two. What a word to use to describe it. 
And btw.. I noticed that drdoolittle was posting in her last week again...I was expecting everyone to start up again about him being me...it didn't happen to my surprise. I noticed that too, but the name wasn't the same and when I clicked on the posting bar...it's was his or her first post. name was spelt drdoolitle. [one 't']
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:47:38 PM new
profe....chiming in too I see. You lefties are always demanding we answer your questions....but more often than not...most lefties here don't do the same in return.
So I have made a personal decision that I will play the game the same way. My right to do so. Don't like it...too bad. Adjust. I don't see how not answering questions leads to better communication either. But when only one side is answering all the questions....doesn't seem like a fair 'game' to me. Besides....I'm out numbered against all you lefties here. Much to much work to answer each and every question put to me....especially the ones that are totally off topic.
And I will state to all that FREE SPEECH does not ONLY apply to the lefties who post here. If someone has a suspecion that someone is 'tracking' their auctions....then they have the right to mention it. Whether someone you support likes it or not. Just remember Ward Churchill.....free speech and all...whether you like it or not.
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maggiemuggins
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:50:04 PM new
aaha...I missed that!
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kraftdinner
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:56:51 PM new
Thank-you Trai and Helen. That made my weekend.
Linda, what questions are the left not answering?
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maggiemuggins
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:57:58 PM new
LOL..Profe.. a true sign of a good old southern boy is when he adds, Bless her heart or God love you, after his insults! ROFLMAO
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trai
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:58:54 PM new
I'm not sure he gave you permission to speak for him now.
Where do you see me speaking for Reamond??
But I'm not clear on why you're so quick to 'defend' what you have no knowledge of. You take one side....without any proof against another who believes he is being 'checked on' by some here.
I'm not taking any side, I'm staying out of your squabbles. The one point and only point that I brought up was the auction interference issue which I found ridiculous. That's it!
Hi Kraft, we still on for tomorrow night?
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trai
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posted on February 11, 2005 07:58:54 PM new
Oops! 
[ edited by trai on Feb 11, 2005 07:59 PM ]
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crowfarm
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:03:34 PM new
Oh for Gawd's sake ! linDUH says,
""Where has reamond gone? He hasn't posted here since kerry lost the election. He was acting much differently than he had before the election....like he just couldn't handle that Bush was re-elected. A reamond I'd never seen before...and I had always respected him before that. """
Then this SAME sicko says to Trai who NEVER said ANYTHING like it,
""" I'm not sure he gave you permission to speak for him now.""""
Hallucinating druggie! HERE is PROOF you have NO idea what you're talking about!
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:08:55 PM new
trai - Well I took it that way when you said:
Anyone ever wonder where all the good posters like Reamond and others have gone?
After stating how terrible you see things as being in here.
Are you saying that those who are still posting here, like kiara, helen, maggie, profe, etc. aren't 'good' posters? They're still 'here' after all.
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Linda_K
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:11:49 PM new
KD - Imo you're just choosing not to notice it. It happens all the time. Even when I repeat my question....the leftie I'm addressing doesn't answer. It's been that way for quite sometime now. No one is forced to answer..just because a question is asked....but it's happened too much lately so I'm going to play the same way. Answer what I wish...and not when I don't. Same rules for all.
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dblfugger9
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:13:59 PM new
okay, I am not falling asleep as I should. I am now in 'overtired' mode so be forewarned.
Helen, first of all *I* was the one who made the statement. Linda questioned it. She didnt state anything of fact. It was a question. Which further disputes your most likely statements she nevers questions anything or anybody. So why dont you accuse me of being low, and stop using this as an excuse for you 3 4 or what ever breed of colonization you all use to gang up on her? ( I am taking biology courses - can anybody tell..lol!! Yes, replay I empathize with fitting in alot during one day!) but I digress.... And it appears most if not all kiara's posts are pretty much limited to attacking the poster and not really the issue. But who's to say what is supposed to be fun for kiara is fun for anybody else? Kiara does the same thing she accuses Linda of: being narrowminded and blah, blah, blah.
Now maggie, this is pathetic as noted. But here we are. So What do you prefer solitare? Onsies is a cheating game and three'sies takes more skill than just flippen cards. I bet Linda is good at the 3'zies. Now all this hyperbole about who I am. You believe what you want to believe. That is after all, part of the magic of the internet here. Surely my personality can be so identical to any one of the 125,000 users vendio has that those of you who wish walk a bread crumb trail can find it, have it, and walk it all day long if you'd like. Other than that, if nero's favorite saying was, "you're on your own with your assumptions" then I'll just have to borrow that right now. *btw, anybody can find out anything on the internet. your ebay ID probably the least of complications when you're posting to a public message board.
Linda, if you have messenger ICQ, aol instant messenger or whatever, all one needs is your email address to see you online through them having one of those messengers, unless you set you preferences to 'shut out' all users, or appear offline, something like that, depending on the service you use and the preferences they allow you to enable or disable. (thought I'd just let you know that :0)
Classic vendio offers the same thing but without sharing the exact IP address of who is watching your auctions. Quite a kick huh?
The watchers watching the watchers? That is how I discovered my canadian admirer. Same IP address on almost every auction listed, week in week out. Never a bid or an email to inquire to bid. Just checking my sales out. Now maybe if I had the inclination and energy to put two & two together with the time frames of stupid email ebayers questions send to see if its spoofed, it might be worth something. But so far he/she/it is just there. I dont fret over it. As my other half so astutly surmised sounds like this person is somebody who really likes me,what I have to say, what I am offering for sale, whatever. Maybe they think I got the key to grand design of ebay sales...but what a joke that would be on them! I just hope whoever they are, it doesnt blossom into a full time stalker, but you never do know.
Maybe if I keep typing my eyes will just close on this keyboard. Seems to be the only thing this is tiring me enough to want to try to sleep again
Have I put you all to sleep too? LOLLLOLOL!!!
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kraftdinner
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:14:58 PM new
Yes Trai. Twelve is coming over but never stays longer than 4 or 5 minutes. After that, Classic will be over to tell me some monster stories, but then I'm free. Or are you just trying to butter me up for more polaroids??
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dblfugger9
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:18:40 PM new
and btw, I didnt say anybody was "interfering" with my auctions. I could document what I said profe51 but when you become the authority I need to document it to let me know.
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trai
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:21:47 PM new
Linda that is not what I'm saying. You are taking this way out of context. I'm talking about the good posters that have left.
Kraft, sorry its me or nothing. I'm not the sharing type, not till I'm done anyways. lol
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maggiemuggins
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:23:22 PM new
Well.. then.. LOL.. I ..hope that Nero comes back soon and slaps the bejeesles out of you for imitating her style..besides she could cuss a lot better than you! Na na na na...
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crowfarm
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:23:34 PM new
Once again linDUH doesn't have the courage or what ever it takes to address this piece of her stupidity...........
Oh for Gawd's sake ! linDUH says,
""Where has reamond gone? He hasn't posted here since kerry lost the election. He was acting much differently than he had before the election....like he just couldn't handle that Bush was re-elected. A reamond I'd never seen before...and I had always respected him before that. """
Then this SAME sicko says to Trai who NEVER said ANYTHING like it,
""" I'm not sure he gave you permission to speak for him now.""""
Hallucinating druggie! HERE is PROOF you have NO idea what you're talking about!
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Helenjw
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posted on February 11, 2005 08:32:01 PM new
dblfugger said, "Helen, first of all *I* was the one who made the statement. Linda questioned it. She didnt state anything of fact.
Linda stated nasty and baseless innuendo...dblfugger...Linda stated, based only on your crazy accusation...."And now what. It appears you might be 'checking into' other posters auctions. I left to wonder if you've checked into crowfarm's yet or do you only harass/investigate the auctions of people who you don't like. how unprofessional of you...if you are doing that."
You were both wrong. Linda only 'uses' questions to deliver her below the belt innuendo. You provided her "inspiration".
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