posted on August 7, 2005 05:33:39 PM new
Kiara
Ok so it's just your opinion and i won't try to take that away from you but i still fail to see how Bush's family being with him at his side once in awhile will show anything as far as his/their support to the families of the fallen or how it would console them in their time of loss.
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Welcome to the board Caroline.
Vendio's description of this board is a bit off. It should read, A place to kick back, relax, and have fun! Share a story, tell a joke, write a poem, make a friend and get yourself suspended.
posted on August 7, 2005 05:46:23 PM new
Piinthesky, on second thought you may be right. After all, if President Bush showed up with two carefree, healthy and happy daughters at his side who didn't go to war it may make the families feel even worse, knowing that their beloved children have been killed or that they are in a hospital missing limbs or with permanent brain damage. It would be like rubbing salt in an open wound.
posted on August 7, 2005 06:05:00 PM newwho didn't go to war
You just had to include that little tidbit because your obviously still hung up on his daughters not enlisting as if you really think they should and now your being facetious about the whole matter. Again i say, who really wants to see his daughters at his side while visiting families and the troops and what positive effect could it have on them?
How about if the Generals and other commanders in the field were to take their families with them just so the soldiers can have the conflict feel like a family sort of thing?
posted on August 7, 2005 06:05:51 PM new
Welcome caroline.
It is sad this mother and others as well have lost sons, daughters, husbands, etc.
But as enlistment is trying to be whisked under the carpet as "irrelevent" because it doesn't meet thier agenda is not looking at all the facts, same as they accuse others.
This war has turned south and needs timeline for getting out. It can be done and should be done. But to keep bashing President Bush over this is like beating a dead horse, nothing is going to happen to him or the others they will be here until 2009.
posted on August 7, 2005 06:22:20 PM new "So far, all I have seen on this board is the left coming together to bash the right. Gee, sounds familiar - kind of like real life in here. I can't even get through all of the posts since there's so much nastiness, name-calling and insults. And, as usual, it is all coming from the Libs! was hoping this was a forum for civilized discussion, raising valid points, political debate, etc. I guess the Vendio description of " A place to kick back, relax, and have fun! Share a story, tell a joke, write a poem, make a friend..." is a bit off. As usual, the only intellectual debate and facts are on the right. If I wanted to hear name-calling and Bush-bashing, I can turn on the network news, or better yet, CNN!"
That's not true, carolinetyler. It's too bad that you are having so much trouble getting along with others on your first day. Isn't it rather unusual for a new poster to complain so much about the prevailing climate of a board. My response to you was certainly civil and contained no "insults" or "name calling" or "nastiness".
BTW... about "raising valid points". I reviewed what you wrote and the only point that you made related to the topic was to point out that the Bush administration cares about their troops based on the fact that two Bush administration officials listened to the mother. I don't mean to be critical but for someone who is complaining about points being made, that one was definitely lame.
posted on August 7, 2005 06:35:45 PM newYou just had to include that little tidbit because your obviously still hung up on his daughters not enlisting as if you really think they should and now your being facetious about the whole matter.
Piinthesky, you are trying to read much more into what I am saying. I said that his daughters did not go to war and I said it only as a fact. I am not hung up on them not enlisting and agreed it was their choice as adults, not to.
posted on August 7, 2005 06:47:35 PM newIf President Bush stands so strongly behind his beliefs and this cause, to prove it he should have his daughters enlist and go to Iraq with all the other sons and daughters.
and then:
If that is true, then shouldn't Bush's daughters be following his so-called beliefs and values that he touts? They should be gearing up and heading out to battle as they shout 'Bring 'em on'.
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PITS: You just had to include that little tidbit because your obviously still hung up on his daughters not enlisting as if you really think they should and now your being facetious about the whole matter.
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Kaira replies: Piinthesky, you are trying to read much more into what I am saying. I said that his daughters did not go to war and I said it only as a fact. I am not hung up on them not enlisting and agreed it was their choice as adults, not to.
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No...piinthesky....kiara said NO SUCH THING!! Nor did she even suggest it!
And if it ever gets brought up again....she'll deny she EVER said any such thing....and tell you to prove it. She's NEVER wrong....just keep that straight.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 7, 2005 07:00 PM ]
posted on August 7, 2005 06:48:50 PM new
Oh ok, if you say so kiara who lives partime in Canada, has a rockstar for a friend, fixes up old houses sells them and owns her own B&M store.
All facts about you, even though they have no relevence whatsoever to me being accomodating to your opinions and statements.
posted on August 7, 2005 06:54:55 PM new
These posters carolinetyler,Bear1949,Linda_K,Piinthesky don't really support our troops they just pretend they do.
They try to justify the deaths of over 1,800 Americans along with thousands of wounded by saying things like "these men and woman knew what they were getting into" and "they knew the dangers" etc.
They are wrong and UN-AMERICAN by blaming the VICTIMS of a POORLY RUN WAR started from LIES.
A War where our Brave Troops were not given the right equipment to protect themselves.
A war where Brave Americans are DYING in BEACH LANDING VEHICLES AND OTHER POORLY ARMORED VEHICLES in the middle of a WAR ZONE.
If the above people were TRULY SUPPORTING OUR TROOPS. They would be just as pissed off at BUSH/CHENEY/RUMSFIELD as I am. They starting this War ON LIES and are now POORLY MANAGING AND EQUIPPING our Troops.
"MISSION ACCOMPLISHED" "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION" "YELLOW CAKE" "BRING THEM ON" "FIGHTING ON THEIR GROUND" "YOU GO TO WAR WITH THE ARMY YOU GOT NOT THE ARMY YOU WISH YOU HAD". These words are all LIES from the biggest bunch of LIARS this country has ever seen.
The only people being bashed on this board are the UN-AMERICAN FOOLS THAT BLAME THE VICTIMS OF FAILED LEADERS LIKE BUSH/CHENEY/RUMSFIELD and their IRAQ WAR.
posted on August 7, 2005 07:02:31 PM new
I shared some different points of view and followed on from my first statements that since they didn't enlist perhaps they could show support for the troops as a family unit and I'm truly sorry that you choose to read it negatively and don't understand that I can look at things several different ways.
It's interesting to read that lindak hears an opposing opinion as a 'chant' in her head. It may explain why she responds to others that she disagrees with by calling names and being so uncivil as well as writing in caps and bolding. She may be trying to drown out the 'chanting' she hears. She did admit she heard 'tones she didn't like' from a very civil poster who disagreed with her.
As for Caroline, it's interesting that she gives such a negative opinion of others here when she admits she hasn't read all the posts.
posted on August 7, 2005 07:03:58 PM newIt's too bad that you are having so much trouble getting along with others on your first day.
Oh yes....helen BLAMES the new poster. Doesn't even MENTION foul-mouthed rusty's welcoming statement to her. Nope....as a matter of fact helen has the decency to agree with his post....which, of course, includes his insult.
You're a true piece, helen....a true piece.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 7, 2005 07:15:41 PM new "Oh yes....helen BLAMES the new poster. Doesn't even MENTION foul-mouthed rusty's welcoming statement to her. Nope....as a matter of fact helen has the decency to agree with his post....which, of course, includes his insult."
Now where did I "blame" the poster that you call new? And tell me why do you hold me responsible for what others say on this board? I'm not in charge of anyone here. I agreed with Rusty's good points and I said so. It's unfortunate that you and those on the right spend an inordinate amount of time attacking people rather than discussing the topic.
posted on August 7, 2005 07:18:23 PM new
LindaTwelveK, is it kind of like YOU chiming in after somebody else posts an insult and you give them an LOL or "pretty Funny" or something like that????
Supporting thier insults while trying to reamin "above it all"?
posted on August 7, 2005 07:23:48 PM new
helen....I have contributed to this thread....it's your fogged up glasses again...you must have missed them.
And had our new poster been a leftie....you and all the other lefties would have welcomed her with open arms. Just who do YOU think you're fooling? Nobody that knows you.
Heck when a leftie comes in here blasting away for the first post they make....you fall all over yourself to welcome them.
LOL LOL LOL
I'm just pointing out your flaws helen....and how kiara can say things that on the next page she denies she said.
It's fun to watch/read you two...and see how strange people can act. Denial is a BIG thing with some lefties here.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
linda....Review what you have written on this thread alone and you will find that you have focused all your attention on helen and Rusty and Kiara....over and over and virtually NOTHING on topic.
At least you have put your obnoxious horse laugh to rest for awhile.
posted on August 7, 2005 07:50:48 PM new
""It's fun to watch/read you two...and see how strange people can act""
That's NOTHING LindatwelveK, you should read Dble's posts! oh , gee gosh, now THERE'S a strange acting person...oh, wow and she's YOUR good buddy ....you must be blind
I guess you found them THIS time. It's okay, helen, practice makes perfect. Just try not to open your mouth and insert your foot next time.
Why don't you busy your little brain with pointing out to your good buddies how they don't address the subject with each and every post.
Might start with your favorite, crowfarm/mg.
Oh...but wait....just might want to check out your OWN posts in this thread too. Since MINE seem to be troubling you to such a great degree.
you CRACK me up helen. You're just so ENTERTAINING. You think you're so intelligent.....but you don't have a DROP of common sense. But you're fun to 'play' with. Always trying to impress us.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 7, 2005 07:56:35 PM new
No, linda. I don't lie. But you follow the Bush drill...lie lie lie and then accuse the opposition of lying.
I know that you lie because you have lied about me so many times.
This is interesting....
From MSNBC
WASHINGTON - The deadly recent attacks on American troops in Iraq are increasing the pressure on President Bush to develop an exit strategy. The U.S. death toll from the war is now over 1,800, and a new AP-Ipsos poll shows the lowest approval yet for Bush’s handling of Iraq, just 38 percent.
From CNN
Aug. 6, 2005 - As U.S. troops endured a deadly week in Iraq, 61 percent of Americans polled say they disapprove of the way President George W. Bush is handling the war in Iraq, according to a new NEWSWEEK poll. Thirty four percent say they approve. This is Bush’s lowest rating on Iraq and the first time it has dropped below 40 percent in the NEWSWEEK poll. And 50 percent of those polled say the United States is losing ground in its efforts to establish security and democracy in Iraq; just 40 percent say the U.S. is making progress there.
posted on August 7, 2005 07:57:02 PM new
You know, you can tell the people who post here are real old.....cause they're hung up on this idea that if you sent my son or daughter, send your own type of thing.
But there is no draft. That sentiment is a leftover from WWII and VN and those wars prior when men were actually drafted to go to a war they may not have wanted to! They had no choice. So there's really no backbone in this lament as it applies now for this war at all. The bush girls dont have to enlist - nobody had to, or has to enlist. You all should smack yer head a couple of times and see if you can fast forward to the year 2005.
Linda, kiara's got grand designs of publicity stunts for Pres. Bush, dont you think? LOL!! Do a family photoshoot at a veterans hospital to show you care!! Now she's thinking up PSA's for the president and the country!!! LOL>>>>>>>>>
And I'll be damned if I was ever responsible for what my father did at his job. The thought of putting any of it on them is ridiculous!
posted on August 7, 2005 08:13:21 PM new
Hi Maggie. It's a real brick and mortar store as opposed to an online one. I have no idea what my personal life has to do with this topic though, do you?
posted on August 7, 2005 08:16:03 PM new
Thanks Kiara, I had no idea what the B&M meant...LOL..No..your personal life really doesn't have anything to do with the topic as far as I can see..
