posted on August 8, 2005 12:52:04 PM new
Cindy is now being threatened with being arrested as ...get this...a security risk.
Another attempt by the administration to squelch free speech and the right to demonstrate.
They want her outta there by Friday because Condasleeza and Rummy are coming to Bar-b-que. If she hasn't been a security risk, is not NOW a security risk, why would she become one on Thursday??????
posted on August 8, 2005 01:08:32 PM new
I think there are several people on this board who need to be Hannitized! I think more people need to read the Drudge report - I believe, and I am sure you will correct me if I am mistaken, that it was Drudge who actually broke the Monica Lewinsky scandal.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Caroline
posted on August 8, 2005 03:33:05 PM new
Funny that you would think of the Lewinsky/Clinton thing as a scandal, Carolyntyler, yet when a President sends troops into a country to die, it's ok because it's called war. Do you know why the troops are in Iraq?
posted on August 8, 2005 03:44:07 PM new
Caroline - And that's exactly why they so dislike [to put it mildly] the Drudge report. They will NEVER forgive him for breaking the story that MSM wouldn't report because they were protecting clinton. It's what led to his impeachment....and all those other women coming forward.
You'd think after he lied to them....lied to the whole Nation....perjured himself under oath....they might get a clue about his character. But nope....they'll defend him and igore it all.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 03:52:42 PM new
LOL, piinthesky - Yep....and was ONE reason the left came up with at the time we were giving saddam his 'one last chance'....one of several last chances.
But then again....they don't have a very good track record as it is on any of their accusations. Been wrong on most everything they've thrown at this administration.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 04:05:07 PM new
Yes it's a very strange behaviour they have but what i find to be the strangest behaviour that most of the lefists have is when talking about issues they will include out and outright lies or they will include irrelevent information in a vain attempt at futhering their cause which is to discredit this administration and anyone that supports it. They do this and they think that no one sees it.
posted on August 8, 2005 04:51:24 PM new
Kraft, I thought that in a Democracy opposing opinions were allowed but it’s amusing to see the tactics used to try to divert most topics and when things get too squirmy and they have nothing to add, it’s even more amusing to see that Clinton is always trotted out for another run around the board.
posted on August 8, 2005 05:01:22 PM new
piinthesky - They do this and they think that no one sees it.
They know the smart ones see it....it's too obvious NOT to be seen. But I believe they're hoping to convince the few that don't/won't take the time to read the other side and see most of what they said IS made up and untrue.
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kaira - you're just going to have to accept that people hold different opinions from yours and that they're free to state them here.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 8, 2005 05:05 PM ]
posted on August 8, 2005 05:02:29 PM new
Well you see kraftdinner, there are different degrees of discreditation. Here's an example, lets say that some of the preliminary findings on an issue tend to lean towards the original information or claims being wrong. The leftists will then come in and say things like AHA, this proves that it was ALL a lie in the first place. Even knowing that not all of the findings or that the investigation is incomplete.
posted on August 8, 2005 05:08:10 PM newkaira - you're just going to have to accept that people hold different opinions from yours and that they're free to state them here.
Exactly what I said, in a Democracy that should be allowed no matter what topic is discussed.
posted on August 8, 2005 05:08:36 PM new
"And that's exactly why they so dislike [to put it mildly] the Drudge report. They will NEVER forgive him for breaking the story that MSM wouldn't report because they were protecting clinton."
Who was protecting Clinton? I don't think any liberal here was protecting Clinton, and could care less that the Drudge report claims they were first to break the story. If it was a story, then it should have been reported. I want all of our leaders held accountable for their actions, whether they are Republicans or Democrats. Clinton shouldn't have lied under oath. I don't think anyone can argue that. He should have kept his cigar in his pocket. I don't think anyone can argue that either. Personally, I'm glad he was held accountable, but just as Linda and Caroline think Clinton should be held accountable for that, they should also hold this current President and his Administration accountable for all of the lives that have been lost because of lies, greed, and profiteering.
[ edited by rustygumbo on Aug 8, 2005 05:10 PM ]
posted on August 8, 2005 05:18:06 PM new
rusty - It was the old media....MSM...that had the goods on clinton but refused to report them. I'm sure you can find articles yourself that said which two MSM who protected clinton.
And it's nice to see you mention your thought's/position on clinton's lying. Most of our dems here won't go near it....they're always defending those actions in one way or another.
As far as you expecting others, me included, to blame this President for something I believe should have been done during the clinton administration....as he did drop a couple of bombs on Iraq....clinton did sign the bill Congress passed to make it our National Policy to remove saddam from governing Iraq.....he just didn't have the balls to take it any further. After 9-11 this President and our Congress decided it needed to happen.
You can defend saddam's lack of cooperation with the UN for 13 years all you want. But when this President had the same intelligence that the clinton admin. had...and we had just been attacked... he acted on this LONG PRECEIVED THREAT from saddam....
I would NEVER fault any president who was doing what he felt was the right thing to do to protect this Nation. NEVER.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 05:40:03 PM new
"I would NEVER fault any president who was doing what he felt was the right thing to do to protect this Nation. NEVER."
And that is exactly why you are anti-American. America isn't a President, particularly one you are a cheerleader for. America is the people, and when the President doesn't represent the people in a way that is honorable and just, lies to the American people, and even worse, makes jokes about his lies, then yes... I will always question the motives of such leaders. What Clinton did was wrong. He should have never lied. A lie is a lie, whether it is for a bj or to go to war, but when a lie causes the loss of even just one human life, then that person should be held accountable for not only lying, but for the loss of that life.
You have argued some very immature points like, "our guy won". I could care less if GW won an election if he was a decent human being, but he is NOT even close. He is a hypocrite, a liar, a thief, and a murderer.
How many soldiers have we loss since George went on his 50th vacation this past week? 50 vacations???? Who the hell takes 50 vacations in 4.5 years? I thought the President was supposed to actually work, not collect welfare for vacation time. He's zeroing in on almost a year of vacation in less than 5 years of being President. Now, if his job was so cushy and relaxing, can you explain why we are at war? Or maybe he just knows something we don't know. Perhaps there really is no threat, and he's got the likes of Linda shaking like leaf blowing in the wind.
As for Cindy... I wish her the best. I sympathize for her and every other family or friends of those in the military. When a President makes comments like, "bring it on", it really makes my feel for those who are so closely affected by an unnecessary death. If George Bush was half the man he thinks he is, he wouldn't have pulled strings for US duty in the ANG. If George Bush was half the man he thinks he is, he wouldn't have snorted all that coke back in the day, and if George Bush was half the man he thinks he is, he would have understood the value of human life. His claims as a Christian man are nothing but a front for his pro-corporate agenda. He has never lived one moment of honor in his life.
posted on August 8, 2005 05:47:13 PM new
UMMM - what are we doing in Iraq? Gosh, maybe we are fighting a war on terror? Maybe we are keeping the fight in another country, letting the suicide bombers and insurgents wreak havoc over there, not in the U.S.
And if you think Al Qaeda and Iraq aren't linked, think again. In the videotape released last week, Al Qaeda deputy leader Aymen al-Zawahri, warned London of more bloodshed. He linked the London attacks to the British troop presence in Iraq.
posted on August 8, 2005 05:55:13 PM new
No rusty....what you and others like you don't 'get' is that the WORLD thought saddam STILL had womb. He had it before and he used it. The UN wanted him to prove he had gotten rid of it. He wouldn't....for 13 years he wouldn't.
Another thing I believe you and those like you won't accept is the FACTS....that our country, by the intelligence we had....believed from the Bush1 administration....and throughout clinton's administration they too believed saddam had womd or was close to getting it.
Other world country's intelligence said the same thing. This wasn't something this President just made up.
It's the anti-bush people who are making it sound much differently that our HISTORY PROVES it to be. saddam never did prove anything....and you off-the-wall liberal Bush haters....just won't accept those facts and put the blame at this President's feet when it fact it belongs at the feet of saddam.
Imo, you and your ilk are putting our country in GREAT jeopardy by not supporting this war. Our enemies see and hear what you say...when you do things like calling this President a liar....when all investigations have said he didn't lie at all. But it's become the Bush haters mantra....and no matter the facts....they keep repeating this falsehood.
I don't follow anyone blindly. It may appear that way to some hard-core liberals here....but this President was re-elected even AFTER all these lies where thrown at him by people like you.
And that's the problem....the left cannot see/cannot handle that they have continued to lose power. They cannot see that American's can see the truth and then read their lies. Voters are not stupid people. People polled aren't necessarily voters. And the dems have been oh-so-wrong in their predictions since 1998.
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 8, 2005 06:02 PM ]
posted on August 8, 2005 06:14:48 PM new
Oh I see caroline, you care so much about the Iraqis and their "freedom" !
""Gosh, maybe we are fighting a war on terror? Maybe we are keeping the fight in another country, letting the suicide bombers and insurgents wreak havoc over there, not in the U.S.""
Sorry , there is no logic whatsoever behind that(must be from listening to Hannity)
Ask the British, it didn't work for them , did it?
And just because Americans are being slaughtered in Iraq does NOT mean nothing will happen here....that's why we had all those red, orange, pink yellow alerts!!!!!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 06:34:11 PM new
The terrorists have been bombing many different countries....all the countrie that have acted as our allies.
But no, we haven't been attacked. In part, I believe because of the changes that have been made since 9-11. The Patriot Act has also helped capture/arrest potential terrorist BEFORE they've had a change to do their killing. Whereas in the UK....they allowed these murderers to go around preaching death to America.....we don't and wouldn't allow that to happen here. It's NOT happening here.
But people like you are, imo, are aiding and abetting our enemies.....who might just be saving their BEST WMD for our country.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 06:48:07 PM newwhat you and others like you don't 'get' is that the WORLD thought saddam STILL had womb. He had it before and he used it. The UN wanted him to prove he had gotten rid of it.
Then why not let the weapons inspectors do their job and find out for sure. They were in Iraq doing their job before Bush gave his ultimatium to Saddam.
Of course Bush would not let the weapons inspectors do their job. Because if they did not find anything it would not justify his main reason for going to war.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 8, 2005 06:53:01 PM new
"And if you think Al Qaeda and Iraq aren't linked, think again. In the videotape released last week, Al Qaeda deputy leader Aymen al-Zawahri, warned London of more bloodshed. He linked the London attacks to the British troop presence in Iraq."
Wow, are you really that thickheaded? Everybody knows that Al Qaida is NOW in Iraq. Nobody argues that. Al Qaida was NOT in Iraq before Bush decided to raid the oil fields.
posted on August 8, 2005 07:07:22 PM new
logan - What you are choosing to overlook....completely...is the fact saddam had 13 years to do so.
AND more importantly what you are choosing to overlook/excuse is the FACT that saddam WAS NOT COOPERATING UNTIL our ships where near his boarders. THEN he was willing to start the game playing all over again.
I can't tell you how happy I was that President Bush didn't buy into another 'last chance'. He gave his 48 hours to step down...or war would begin. saddam didn't.....THIS President showed him he means what he says.
But here you are posting a link to the "World Socialist Web Site. No wonder you make the comments you do..... god, how funny.
Should have know from your posts....and you complain because I've called your statements anti-american?
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 07:34:24 PM newWhat you are choosing to overlook....completely...is the fact saddam had 13 years to do so.
I guess going to war and having more than 3000+ people killed is more important than another month of letting the inspectors do their job to prove to the world that Saddam actually had WMD like everyone claimed he had.
I know where your priorities are. Kill first ask questions later.
So Linda where are all these WMD that Bush knew Saddam had. Three years later there is no proof that he had any. But that was not really the main reason for going to war with Iraq, now was it. The main reason was a regime change, but Bush knew he could not sell that idea to the American people.
Should have know from your posts....and you complain because I've called your statements anti-american?
Another lie from Linda coming from the queen dictator herself.
Still does not diminish the fact that Bush would not allow the weapons inspectors to do their job and back up ALL THE FACTS THAT BUSH HAD to prove to world THAT SADDAM HAD WMD IN 2002.
I guess your right winged newspapers that you love so dearly don't tell the reality of what really happened.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 8, 2005 07:44:38 PM newThe terrorists have been bombing many different countries....all the countrie that have acted as our allies.
All these countries (The Coalition of the Willing) better watch out, according to Linda they will be targeted.
Afghanistan
Albania
Australia
Azerbaijan
Bulgaria
Colombia
the Czech Republic
Denmark
El Salvador
Eritrea
Estonia
Ethiopia
Georgia
Hungary
Italy
Japan
South Korea
Latvia
Lithuania
Macedonia
the Netherlands
Nicaragua
the Philippines
Poland
Romania
Slovakia
Spain
Turkey
Uzbekistan.
So what news source did you get this tidbit of information from. Was it Al-jazzera or your magic 8 ball?
Since she knows which countries will be targeted next Linda must either be working with the terrorists or Nostradamos has been reincardnated as Linda. Only the terrorists know for sure where they will strike next.
Personally, I think Eritrea and Estonia are safe from being targeted. I doubt the terrorists can even find these countries on a map
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
Caroline 
It's what led to his impeachment....and all those other women coming forward.
