posted on August 8, 2005 07:50:58 PM new
Let's see....how does Linda know?.....probably like every other INFORMED person in the USA.....from reading or listening to binladen's own tapes. He doing just as he said he would.....bombing these innocent people to make their countries withdraw their support from the coaliation and exit Iraq.
Where have you had your head buried lately? You've been out of touch with several subjects lately. Now YOU may not believe bin laden's promises and those of his right-hand men....but SMART people, who have their eyes and ears open do. They can SEE he's doing just as he said he'd do.....bombing those countries....and repeating his warning....
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
[ edited by Linda_K on Aug 8, 2005 07:54 PM ]
posted on August 8, 2005 07:59:52 PM newYou saying I'm lying about the link YOU provided from The World Socialist Web site?
No I am saying you are lying about my statements being Un-American.
I stand by my post.....your WSWS is anti-American.
Coming from you, that does not mean much. Everyone who does not like the Bush administration, everyone who does not fall in line and kiss the as* of Bush and his administration, everyone who does hold up their pom-poms and does the little happy dance to support Bush is Un-American.
You can take your right winged dictatorship propaganda and preach to another choir. THIS AMERICAN BELIEVES IN WHAT THE CONSTITUTION PROVIDES. THIS AMERICAN DOES NOT WANT HIS FREEDOMS TAKEN AWAY.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 8, 2005 08:08:16 PM newfrom reading or listening to binladen's own tapes. He doing just as he said he would.....bombing these innocent people to make their countries withdraw their support from the coaliation and exit Iraq.
So Linda show me where in the most recent tape did Bin Laden say he would attack the countries in the previous list. Show me if you can. You can't because Bin Laden did not even talk on the last tape like you claim he did. It was Al-Zawahiri.
Once again you are spreading mis-information.
Where have you had your head buried lately?
If you really want to know. I can tell you, but......
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 8, 2005 08:20:16 PM new
LOL....boy you are one mixed up person, logan.
FIRST of all The Socialist Party DOES NOT support our Constitution. That's just plain crazy. Your use of it has nothing to do with President Bush. You used a site to back up YOUR OWN statements....and it happens to be an anti-American site. Those are FACTS my dear.....
Second I said binladen and [B]HIS RIGHT HAND MEN[b]. Guess you missed that too.
And third and the last response you're going to get from me tonight....is I'm am PRO-AMERICA....and that's what bothers you the most. I am PRO-AMERICA no matter what party our President is with. Unlike you and others who are so busy bashing President Bush you can't even see the damage you are doing to our country....by your actions. sad, sad, sad.
Maybe one day you'll be in a position to experience a bomb being blown up around you or friends of yours....and THEN just maybe you'll be able to understand what THIS President and our CONGRESS is working to avoid.
Until then.....keep reading your World Socialist sites....be against your own Constitution and all it stands for. And shame, shame on you.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 09:56:56 PM new
KD - Obviously you can't seperate the difference between not liking a president....and not supporting a President when there's a threat to our Nation. There is a HUGE difference....and I've pointed out many, many times that I supported clinton's bombing of Iraq....for exactly the same reasons this President did.
I also have mentioned I felt he should have done MORE against the terrorists who had FIVE times declared war on our Nation by bombing our interests and KILLING our soldiers.
Clinton was a whimp. This President has a backbone...knows what needs to be done...and does it. Very much unlike clinton....who was more interested in being PC and 'talking this out' with these murderers. Needing more proof of their intentions....after we'd been attack FIVE times.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 10:00:57 PM new
And be clear....WHEN clinton bombed Iraq....in Dec.'98 HE didn't have the approval of our Congress....HE didn't have approval from the UN Security Council's vote that President Bush had 15-0 that saddam was going to play ball or there were going to be serious consequences. And he didn't have the agreement from our European or any other allies for that matter.
Anyone who has read clinton's iraq statements should have no doubt he too saw them as the same threat this President did. To deny clinton's public statements.....is to be an idiot...in full denial of the FACTS.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 10:03:42 PM new
The wife has made sure I am real busy. She is leaving to vacation in Hawaii soon....I might move while she is gone! You are not going to keep a good hillbilly down for long!
posted on August 8, 2005 10:10:13 PM new
Linda, just like you can't separate the difference between not liking a President's decision, but still supporting the people that have to carry out that decision.
Whether Clinton should have done this or that doesn't matter anymore. Bush has opened a hornet's nest that needs to be fixed.
posted on August 8, 2005 10:15:25 PM new
That was probably part of the problem, piinthesky. He was so busy with all the girls his Secret Service agents were shuffling in and out of the WH....he was more focused on making 'love, not war'.
But binladen didn't call him/our Nation a 'paper tiger' for no reason. That's how HE saw our country after clinton failed to take the previous 5 attacks seriously. Guess binladen showed him he was WRONG not to have taken him when he could have.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 10:23:04 PM new
KD - The hornet's nest has been there for generations and generations....it's been growing stronger and stronger. More and more militant....not getting one bit more friendly.
We are at WAR, KD. I know you bush-bashers can't handle that....but we are. And as long as THIS President is our CIC....we WILL fight the muslim radicals.
And as all can see, the more BS these murders pull, the more support this President has in the war on terror from other countries.
If we did as you and your side think we should....it would only be a matter of time before we'd be facing another 9-11. What you don't get is they see withdrawing as a weakness....retreat. THIS President will never run from terrorists. This is going to be a very long war....but at some point they're going to get the message we're serious....and we're not quitters....as the lefties are.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 10:45:44 PM new
'but at some point they're going to get the message we're serious....and we're not quitters....as the lefties are.'
This may sound crazy to some but here goes anyways.
I believe that in a sense it's good for the cause, (the cause being that we are fighting the terrorists over there rather than here), that the leftists do not support this war and that the terrorists see this through all the media sources. The reason being that they think that we are not serious beacuse of our devision and they believe that they can win and will still continue to travel to Iraq to fight us.
I fear that eventually they will see what is really going on, that we want to fight them there rather than here and they will begin to pull out of Iraq with the intentions of fighting us here and in other areas of the globe rather than in Iraq where we have more control over how the fight goes. As time goes on we are building more inteligence of how their networks operate in Iraq and eventually we will win in Iraq.
I only hope that before they really catch on that we can do alot of damage to their networks and capture or kill more of their commanders and disrupt their ability to make war to the point that it makes it impossible or next to impossible to fight us anywhere.
posted on August 8, 2005 11:19:22 PM new
piinthesky - I don't see your 'version' as being crazy. I can only hope that's what might happen. None of us know the future...or how many militant terrorists are already here, in America, just planning and waiting until they get the call.
Like with the UK....these bombers were UK citizens. Wouldn't expect them to start murdering their own countrymen/women/children....but they did.
My fear is more related to how the actions of the far lefties accomplished their goal of our retreat from Vietnam. They cause that loss to happen....and the terrorists have learned that they need to change the public's mind in order to beat us in this war. They're aware they can't out-fight us....and they are using their powers of persuasion to accomplish their goal. And the anti-war liberals are falling right into their hands. I'm afraid we're going to see a repeat of that terrible mistake.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 8, 2005 11:42:30 PM new
I agree that the leftists caused the pullout and loss of the VT war but this is a different time and a different war. A war where we were attacked on our own soil and thousands died. When 911 happened, for a breif time we were all united in the cause of fighting those that made war on us. It's mostly been since the reelection of Bush that the leftists have distanced themselves from the true and just cause of fighting terrorism. The only reason that i can see that they have distanced themselves is because of their childish jealosy that their candidate lost. They can't bring themselves to get behind a Republican President and support what is right and just.
I hope we don't see a repeat of that terrible mistake also but as your sig line says; 'And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES' this war i believe is a big part of the reason why he was reelected and even after Bush' term expires the American public will elect another Republican President that will carry on with the fight because we surely don't want a repeat of 911 either.
posted on August 9, 2005 10:41:05 AM newWhether Clinton should have done this or that doesn't matter anymore. Bush has opened a hornet's nest that needs to be fixed.
Why Blame it on Clinton when there were two Republican presidents before him - One that help to contribute to Saddam's chemical weapons program and one that could have removed him but deciced it was better not to.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 9, 2005 11:04:06 AM new
I guess Linda thinks the mom in the OP un-American because she does not support Bush's war.
I bet this mother would love to hear that from Linda - a mom that just lost her son to this war. Now we know the real Linda. Doesn't care about families that loose a child. All that matters is that people support the war and the Dictator In Chief.
But then Linda supports and constantly quotes a person who blames a disabled veteran for loosing the war. Nice Linda.
We know where your heart is
All your cheerleading Linda doesn't change the fact that OVER 60% OF THIS COUNTRY DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS WAR. YOU ARE IN THE MINORITY.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 9, 2005 11:19:10 AM newYour use of it has nothing to do with President Bush. You used a site to back up YOUR OWN statements....and it happens to be an anti-American site.
So what if I used it. The sites supported my views of the war, just because I used the site doesn't mean I am a socialist. But I guess you know what I think and feel.
Second I said binladen and [B]HIS RIGHT HAND MEN[b]. Guess you missed that too.
Here is your exact quote:
probably like every other INFORMED person in the USA.....from reading or listening to binladen's own tapes. He doing just as he said he would.....bombing these innocent people to make their countries withdraw their support from the coaliation and exit Iraq.
Bin laden did not make the last tape so how can he be doing exactly what he said when he didn't say it.
Maybe one day you'll be in a position to experience a bomb being blown up around you or friends of yours....and THEN just maybe you'll be able to understand what THIS President and our CONGRESS is working to avoid.
Like you have been in that position before. So please tell everyone here of your experience of having bombs dropped all around you and your freinds.
Maybe you will be in the position of having your home broken into in the middle of the night by forces ocuppying your land. Maybe they will go one step further and have your sons taken out of the house without any reason except that they suspect he is aiding the enemy. Perhaps then you will know what the mothers and fathers in Iraq feel.
Until then.....keep reading your World Socialist sites....be against your own Constitution and all it stands for. And shame, shame on you.
Another lie by Linda. By my own admission I can't be a socialist as she so claims. I guess she missed this point: THIS AMERICAN BELIEVES IN WHAT THE CONSTITUTION PROVIDES. THIS AMERICAN DOES NOT WANT HIS FREEDOMS TAKEN AWAY
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 9, 2005 12:20:49 PM new
Okay logan....now I can see that not only do you choose to use a socialist site to support your views.....you can't post my full quote...or maybe just can't comprehend it all at one time.
Then we can see how you go about making up statements about my feelings and opinions.
You don't need to converce with anyone....you do quite poorly all on your own.
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piinthesky - Thanks for your last response. I needed that.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 9, 2005 12:49:52 PM new
Logansdad - at what point did anyone, Linda, me or anyone, give any indication that they did not care about the families that lose a child? Never! Just the opposite - as you Dems jump up and down crying about the war, you are saying to these parents - your child died for no reason, they died in vain.
"Now we know the real Linda. Doesn't care about families that loose a child. All that matters is that people support the war and the Dictator In Chief."
I don't think that can or should be said about anyone here.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Caroline
posted on August 9, 2005 01:16:53 PM new
Miss Caroline, to hear you and other's talk, you'd think that everyone fighting the war in Iraq are Republicans..."the way you Dems jump up and down crying about the war" excuse me... those Dems are putting their lives on the line and fighting for our Country too...stop with the stupid generalizations will ya?
posted on August 9, 2005 01:34:47 PM new
I think it's quite easy to see that Caroline is talking about the constant 'jumping......' that goes on HERE....not in the battlefield, maggie.
And she's stated the truth....like it or not.
The dems here are NOT supportive of this war....that's a FACT.
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Caroline - The longer you are here the more of logansdad's 'speaking for the thoughts and opinions' of others, you will see and not just from him. Many lefties here use that as a form of communication....state falsehoods about righties and then expect the righties to deny what they've made up.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 9, 2005 01:52:46 PM new
It grates on my nerves to constantly hear the Republican's on the board talk about Democrats as being unpatriotic, unAmerican, unthinking etc. I am a Democrat, and I am none of the above. I love my country every bit as much as you do and because I do not support the reasons for entering into this war, does not mean that I do not support my country. I have mentioned that I too have nephews fighting at this time in Iraq. They proudly serve their country regardless of their political persuasion.
The entire attitude of pitting one party against the other, half the population against the other, sickens me. It has got to stop. United we stand..divided we will surely fall..We are Americans first and formost..
Sorry, but I've had a belly full of this back and forth bickering, our team is better than your's stuff.. it is just so damn Damaging and unproductive...I'm starting to believe that WE AMERICANS are our own worst enemy right now...
posted on August 9, 2005 02:09:55 PM new
"Sorry, but I've had a belly full of this back and forth bickering, our team is better than your's stuff.. it is just so damn Damaging and unproductive."
magster-read the posts from the lefties..it goes both ways.
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Golfer:Stop checking your watch all the time,its too much of a distraction.
Caddy:Its not a watch, its a compass
posted on August 9, 2005 02:24:00 PM new
Imo, this division is caused by the democratic party members who want American to loose this war. Who can't acknowledge the FACT that the terrorist are VERY serious about wanting to destroy.
Whether you agreed with going into this war or not...again....it's my opinion that you only can be on ONE side....you're either with us or against us. You either want US to win this war or THEM. And it appears from a lot of leftie statesment here....you want us to pull out, which would be admitting defeat. And NO, I don't see that as being on our side in any way, shape or form.
Sorry if it upsets you so much that other don't see things your way. Maybe you should follow your own advice to others....step back...take time off.
I believe that's why you have recommended to others. Does the same not apply to you when you don't like listening to those who disagree with you?
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 9, 2005 02:37:50 PM new
Linda, why do you take everything as confrontational? I said both sides are equally at fault with this splitting of our country.
I didn't say I want to pull out of Iraq. I don't think that at all. I said I don't agree with the reason for going to war with Iraq in the first place. I do believe that we need to stay and finish the job, now that we are there.
I am for the USA winning the war against terrorists. That goes without saying, I would think.
We are not your enemies, Linda.. we are your fellow Americans. Sheesh.. I don't need to step back, I'm calling for peace among us, is that so bad?
Are you thinking clearly? Maybe you have been defending the cause so long that you have lost the big picture...
America First, Linda.. not president Bush, not the Republicans not the Democrats, not the Religious Right or the ultra left Liberals... America whole..undivided..that's what the big picture should be..
posted on August 9, 2005 02:44:34 PM new
I AM for America first, maggie. But from what you've said here...you're a lot more moderate in your thinking than are MOST of the hard-core liberals here. THEY are for the things I've said....and they repeat it all the time.
But we are already IN Iraq....we are already AT war. And with the way the hard-core left act....I'm saying THEY are the cause of this division we both can see.
You're the one who said you're getting sick of the republican...doing this and that. But as classic pointed out very truthfully, it also comes from the left. In your posts I haven't seen you state what they're saying is causing all this division....I only read you blaming it on the right....and on those you're tired of listening to. WHich, of course, doesn't include any lefties. Least ways none you've mention.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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I'm afraid we're going to see a repeat of that terrible mistake.
Caroline