posted on August 12, 2005 07:11:08 PM newSTFU and go home.
Only Cheney uses that type of language.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 13, 2005 07:02:25 AM new
The righties mantra...STFU is reflected in Laura Bush's sentiments about the war dead.
" But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that."
posted on August 13, 2005 09:12:08 AM new
"I wonder if she understands how she is disgracing her son's death and service?"
"But then again she has shown she really doesn't care about his death."
Those are such disappointing words from you Ron. How can you make such comments as if you are the judge, jury, and executioner of this woman? It is pretty pathetic that you would even make such accusations. Nobody, not me, not you, absolutely nobody can make those assumptions. You can make opinions, but that isn't how you presented it. You make it out as if your way is the only way to view it.
What sickens me even more is the hypocrisy of Republicans. They claim this woman is a pawn for the ultra-liberals, yet they are the same ones here and on television who use this woman for their own "agenda" of hatred and misperception.
posted on August 13, 2005 09:19:58 AM newNobody, not me, not you, absolutely nobody can make those assumptions.
But we can draw conclusions when we read that she did everything she could to keep her son from enlisting.....and he DID anyway. That alone proves HE did what HE wanted to do....as an adult....not a mama's boy.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 09:25:00 AM new
LOL....ONE outbrust Cheney makes at a back-stabbing democrat who's two faced and speaks out of both sides of his mouth...and the liberals here #*!@ on and on. Go read some of your ted kennedy's statements about President Bush.....
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But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that.
LAURA Bush, helen???? gosh...another edit is required.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 09:42:13 AM new
What about that do you not understand, Linda?
2. from the transcript of the March 18, 2003 Good Morning America show:
DIANE SAWYER, ABC NEWS: You said that, that Mrs. Bush at one point had said to the two of you, don't watch too much TV. You may be watching too much TV?
FORMER FIRST LADY BARBARA BUSH, UNITED STATES: No question.
DIANE SAWYER, ABC news: "You do watch?
FORMER FIRST LADY BARBARA BUSH, UNITED STATES: I watch none. He sits and listens and I read books, because I know perfectly well that, don't take offense, that 90 percent of what I hear on television is supposition, when we're talking about news. And he's not, not as understanding of my pettiness about that. "But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that.
You appear to agree with that kind of thinking, linda. As you've said many times, "That's war.
posted on August 13, 2005 09:42:56 AM new
You can draw all the conclusions you want Linda, but the fact remains is that a mother of a fallen soldier wants answers to questions that the President has continually avoided. Funny that as a mother, you have no respect for human life, especially human life of someone who was killed unnecessarily for war-profiteering. You support a person who dodged the war by hiding in the ANG and didn't even bother to fulfill his duty because he was too busy snorting white powder up his nose, yet you manage to support his decision to send others to their death. Bush is a murderer, and you support him. Very sad...
[ edited by rustygumbo on Aug 13, 2005 09:46 AM ]
posted on August 13, 2005 10:10:05 AM new
and helen....what part of the difference between LAURA and Barbara Bush don't you get? LAURA Bush did NOT make that statement, helen. Wake up!!!
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"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 10:31:24 AM new
rusty - There you go again....making up things rather than sticking to what you actually have knowledge of. Don't you ever get tired of stating lies about other posters here? I'd think by now you would have seen how it only DISCREDITS what you say.
You can draw all the conclusions you want Linda,
yes and the fact that his mother wanted him to run off to Canada rather than join the Armed Forces....and that he DIDN'T speaks VOLUMES to the FACT they disagreed on what HE should do with his OWN life.
but the fact remains is that a mother of a fallen soldier wants answers to questions that the President has continually avoided.
What you hard-core anti-war people refuse to hear....is that he HAS many, many times answered those questions, in PUBLIC, but you don't like his answers so you keep repeating the mantra ' he won't answer'. When, anybody who's based in REALITY knows he HAS.
Funny that as a mother, you have no respect for human life, especially human life of someone who was killed unnecessarily for war-profiteering.
More of your lies, rusty. I do very much respect human life. As the Mother of a recently ex-Marine I know the fear we Moms have of losing our own children at any time....but especially during times of war when they are more at risk that when on the freeways of our cities.
And as the Mother of a Marine, his father and I RESPECTED HIS DECISION to enlist. We recognized he was a grown man who we'd raised to make his OWN decisions.....whether we agreed with them or not.
We raised an independent man, self sufficient man who wasn't a mama's boy and couldn't make his own decisions. It appears to me this mother felt differently....she thought/believed that he still needed to do what SHE told him to do or not do.
And as millions in our country supported this war .....and as our Congress voted for this war.....I think you're making a false accusation towards ALL those to still support it.
Maybe you could give us a list of all our representatives both in our House and Senate who are saying we should withdraw now. Which of our reps. are claiming, as you are, the false idea that we're war mongers.
List's see the LONG list of our reps. who want to withdraw now. Even old hillary supports what this President is saying....we will stay until the Iraqi's can defend themselves.
You support a person who dodged the war by hiding in the ANG and didn't even bother to fulfill his duty because he was too busy snorting white powder up his nose,
ROFL at you rusty....what a fool you are. clinton ran off to England to avoid being drafted. But the wacko's here keep maintaining that Bush didn't serve. That's been their mantra for over a decade. The FACT that he was HONORABLY discharged....to YOU....means he didn't serve honorable. The fact that kerry STILL won't release all his military records....after all this time....nope...don't see that being a problem to those here who keep complaining about the President, who DID.
I think they call that hyprocrisy.
yet you manage to support his decision to send others to their death.
He sent them to WAR....just as clinton did when he felt it was necessary, during his administration. That's why our military is FOR....that's what they are trained for. That is their purpose. And I laugh at your stupity in saying 'send others to their death'. Presidents send soldiers to battle to win....and yes, some do die in the process. Can you name a war where a democratic president sent soldiers off to war and none died? No....because we're all rational, except you it appears, to know soldiers will die in wars....but that's not the reason they are sent. DUH
[i]Bush is a murderer, and you support him. Very sad[i]...
That's such a sick statement, even coming from you rusty. You dishonor your country and every US president who has sent our soldiers to war.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 10:44:36 AM new "and helen....what part of the difference between LAURA and Barbara Bush don't you get?"
Not much difference, linda. A bush is a bush is a bush....
Barbara Bush said, "But why should we hear about body bags, and deaths, and how many, what day it's gonna happen, and how many this or what do you suppose? Or, I mean, it's, it's not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that.
Like mother, like son, like linda... each and every one of them with the same identical UGLY MIND.
posted on August 13, 2005 10:49:06 AM newThat's such a sick statement, even coming from you rusty. You dishonor your country and every US president who has sent our soldiers to war.
More double standards from the #*!@ queen herself.
Let's see she doesn't like that statement but yet she is the one calling everyone Un-American because they don't support her views of the war.
Let's see she doesn't like that statement but you don't her Linda saying anything negative against her idol, Ann Coulter, for telling a disable veteran, "he is the reason why we lost the war".
Linda, you are knee deep in your own #*!@.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 13, 2005 10:54:48 AM new
yes, helen, I understand you don't appreciate the view that this President respects the wishes of our fallen soldiers families...in wanting privacy when the bodies of their loved ones are returned home. Too bad...your side only wants to use that for their agenda and doesn't respect the wishes of the families.
I'm glad they're honoring their wishes....they're much more important to me than yours.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 11:00:27 AM new
And yes, logansdad, it's easy for all to see how you don't understand that our CONGRESS supported this war. And they still continue to do so....each and everytime they approve another bill to fund the wars.
I realize you can only limit your vision to one man, our President, and not to who is current in control of the war 'purse strings'....which INCLUDES many democrats.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
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Maybe many of you are too young to remember how the VN war was ended. It was because CONGRESS stopped approving funding for it. Brought it to an immediate hault.
Still works that way....and even ol' kerry, your potential presidentical candidate APPROVED the recent war funding bills.
posted on August 13, 2005 11:03:45 AM newyour side only wants to use that for their agenda and doesn't respect the wishes of the families.
Can Linda make a post without using the words Un-American or agenda.
Perhaps we can buy Linda a dictionary so she can increase her vocabulary. She likes to use the same words over and over again.
I feel like someone just pulled the cord on the "Spin and Say"
Linda K says Un-American.
Linda K says agenda.
Bush says "Stay the Course"
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
----------------------------------
President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 13, 2005 11:11:27 AM new
might YOU want to explain why so many democrats voted to continue the war, logansdad.
And again...you can't grasp the difference between 'disagreeing with opinions' and actively supporting our enemies. There is a big difference....and those are the ones I call anti/un-American.....NOT those who oppose this war but aren't actively supporting our enemies causes.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 12:00:11 PM newThere is a big difference....and those are the ones I call anti/un-American.....NOT those who oppose this war but aren't actively supporting our enemies causes.
Spoken like a true Republican....keep changing your reasons for calling people Un-American. In another few months she will change her reasons once agian to justify her cause.
Absolute faith has been shown, consistently, to breed intolerance. And intolerance, history teaches us, again and again, begets violence.
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President George Bush: "Over time the truth will come out."
President George Bush: "Our people are going to find out the truth, and the truth will say that this intelligence was good intelligence. There's no doubt in my mind."
Bush was right. The truth did come out and the facts are he misled Congress and the American people about the reasons we should go to war in Iraq.
posted on August 13, 2005 12:44:14 PM new
Once again, logan, you are wrong. No surprise there.
I have never changed my mind. That's something you're making up. And helen's FBI wanna-be files would prove that to you. I've always held the same position.
I know many from both sides didn't support this war....but they're not aiding and abetting our enemies like some here do and like those wacko sites like moveon.org/kerry/kennedy/soro's/ and other groups do.
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helen...you continue to ask questions that have been answered over and over again. By now you should be VERY aware of whom I've used as an example....people like you...with your mind set. Never supporting our troops in their successful missions. Always calling the murderers of innocent Iraqi's. Always referring to them in negative ways...like you did when they were going into Iraqi homes/farms to find their weapons/terorists.
You're always on the side of our enemies.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
posted on August 13, 2005 01:33:10 PM new
Am I the only one here that has heard her commercial?
Rustygumbo, that is my opinion based on how she is treating this whole thing.
Victoria Taft had some pretty interesting things to say the other night.
She is disgracing his memory, he reenlisted to stay in the Marines, he made a choice, she doesn't agree that is fine, but obviously she cares nothing of how he felt.
posted on August 13, 2005 01:53:06 PM new "There is a big difference....and those are the ones I call anti/un-American.....NOT those who oppose this war but aren't actively supporting our enemies causes".
Linda, I asked you to explain that statement and you could not other than to tell me that it's been explained before.
I recognize in YOU those qualities that ENDANGER our American ideals. American ideals such as compassion for our neighbors, truth as our guiding light and tolerance. Unlike you and the lousy administration that you support, a true American values life and supports freedom of speech and religion. Unlike you, the good American holds their government to high standards of conduct and accountability.
Look at your ugly face in the mirror and you will see all that is anti/un-American, linda. I am thoroughly disgusted with you and your constant lies about good people here that you call anti American because they don't support Bush policy. You are nothing but a wacky hysterical old woman.
posted on August 14, 2005 09:12:08 AM new
Like I CARE what you think helen....or any other poster here who I deem to be anti-American.
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DRUDGE REPORT XXXXX AUG 14, 2005 08:02:39 ET XXXXX
BUSH PROTESTING MOM CALLS FOR 'ISRAEL OUT OF PALESTINE'; VOWS NOT TO PAY TAXES
Anti-war protestor Cindy Sheehan, whose soldier son Casey was killed in Iraq, is calling for Bush's "impeachment," and for Israel to get out of Palestine!
"You get America out of Iraq and Israel out of Palestine and you'll stop the terrorism," Sheehan declares.
Sheehan, who is asking for a second meeting with President Bush, says defiantly: "My son was killed in 2004. I am not paying my taxes for 2004. You killed my son, George Bush, and I don't owe you a penny...you give my son back and I'll pay my taxes. Come after me (for back taxes) and we'll put this war on trial."
"And now I'm going to use another 'I' word - impeachment - because we cannot have these people pardoned. They need to be tried on war crimes and go to jail."
The 48-year-old California mom remains tented up in a ditch along the one-lane road that leads to Bush's Texas ranch. As her protest entered its second week, hundreds of people with conflicting opinions about the war in Iraq descended on the area.
TIME mag reports in new editions on Monday: Sheehan gets support from her surviving son, Andy, in principle, but he recently sent her a long e-mail imploring her, "to come home because you need to support us at home."
Developing...
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
"Like I CARE what you think helen....or any other poster here who I deem to be anti-American.
Good Americans here "deem" your posts to be nothing but worthless gobbledegook with Fascist leanings. And the feeling is mutual, linda we don't CARE what you think.
posted on August 14, 2005 10:50:31 AM new
I think your analysis is incorrect, helen, AGAIN . You, and other liberals here, DO VERY MUCH care....or my posts would be ignored and they wouldn't get your panties in such a bunch like they do.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
Well, Linda... you are the only one who is always here with your dumb anti-American fascist posting. It's funny to see a fascist call someone anti-American because they don't agree with Fascist philosophy.
yes, helen, from the party that has been WINNING SEATS in both our House and our Senate....and electing a Republican president.....not ONCE, but TWICE.
every liberal here is ENVIOUS of THAT record too.
"Whenever the nation is under attack, from within or without, liberals side with the enemy. This is their essence." --Ann Coulter
And why the American Voters chose to RE-elect President Bush to four more years. YES!!!
Go read some of your ted kennedy's statements about President Bush.....
