"I will continue, however, to report the auctions that I know are illegal using my expertise, knowledge and my 16+ years of experience doing what I do."
So you mean to tell me that even after ebay suspended your account you are going to play "ebay detective" for them ???
GIVE ME A BREAK !!!
They suspended your account MAN !!!
Now you are going to work for them !!!!
AND FOR FREE !!!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
You would think that with 16+ years of experience you could do something better with your time.
posted on December 26, 2000 06:37:16 PM new
"We know that eBay is judge, jury and executioner."
Problem is they don't even know who the 'district attorney' is and he/she doesn't have to provide actual evidence!
Perhaps if ebay required the 'reporter of illegal auctions' to provide proof of the alleged illegality, this whole scenario could be avoided! Or is that too logical for ebay?
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I have a memory like a steel trap .. unfortunately it's rusted shut!
posted on December 26, 2000 07:20:24 PM new
No, that wasn't what I was implying. YOU suggested that a high feedback rating somehow exempts me from the rules.
You started a thread earlier about unfair VeRO cancellations I responded with what I thought was sincere and helpful advice. Since I posted in that thread, I have seen you confess - in your own words - to repeated violations of eBay policy, even going so far as to ask another AW how to circumvent eBay's rules.
I regret having taking your earlier thread seriously. I don't intend to do that again. There's no need for me to imply what you have so eloquently stated yourself. And I would personally appreciate it if you would stop dragging me into your head games.
posted on December 26, 2000 08:56:39 PM new
cix ... you have to learn how to read 'between the lines". It is NOT eBay that I am helping here my friend. The only thing you really need to worry about cix is how I will use my time when I see YOUR bootleg videos listed on eBay.
And, who says I'm doing this for free
tuition ... Spot On! What you are suggesting is ... an "investigation" (D'Oh! What a novel idea ...)
posted on December 26, 2000 09:00:52 PM new
Twinsoft, I was implying that they would think twice about beliving renegade auction reporters for your auctions since you had such a high rating, not that you didn't have to abide by the same rules. Sorry for the confusion. I don't try to drag you into anything. I got frustrated when you began to imply that my auctions were removed for listing violations and I should stop whining. This irriated me as the whole point of my thread was that it was ALLEGED listing violations from competitors, not actual violations.
posted on December 26, 2000 09:23:17 PM new
twinsoft ... "One poster here is proclaiming loudly that he didn't do anything wrong, that it was all a setup, but without seeing the auctions, it's hard to make any sort of judgement call."
I don't know if you're referring to me, but whoever you are referring to, you're right - the auction details cannot be posted here in order to conform to the AW Guidelines. The only other person who I could invite here before disclosing the facts (so that you could make an intelligent judgement call) is eBay. I have invited them to AW to discuss this issue several times, but of course, they will not show up here to defend their policies. They don't have the same 'you-know-whats' as that guy from PayPal did when he came here to answer to his customers.
Sorry, but I cannot give you any more details to assist you other than what I have already stated. I have made a few clever references to my auctions in some of my posts - if you can find them, please check them out (if they still exist in the eBay data base). If you are able to see them, and the ones I have been complaining to eBay about for the past 6 months, it will become very clear to you what I have been trying to get across here ...
I don't think ending your input in this discussion by simply stating that: "We know that eBay is judge, jury and executioner" is really what I am looking for. As a PowerSeller, I am hoping that I can convince you that perhaps you can help me make my point with eBay about getting their policies revised to protect sellers like I was.
posted on December 26, 2000 11:27:16 PM new
RB, I am aware of the problem you describe and also that of Ed123. I agree it is a problem. Do you have any solutions or suggestions?
I have already written this twice, but I'll say it again. You have a remedy. That is to provide the documentation that eBay requests. It is not realistic to expect eBay to be experts on every aspect of copyright law. You may not like it, but if it were me, that is what I would do.
This is not only a question of your particular auction, but also of your account status. You have repeatedly stated that you really don't care of you're allowed to sell on eBay or not. So what kind of input should I give?
SafeHarbor is not fair, okay?
This is a two-way street. Your suspension resulted not only from listing questionable items, but also from attempting to circumvent eBay's fees. I don't know the details of what happened so I can't even make a judgement call. I can tell you that I have plenty of gripes with various eBay policies, but copyright issues is not at the top of my list. And believe me, I don't have any special pull at eBay.
I have seen many people complain in this forum that they were unfairly suspended. And nine times out of ten their response is to threaten to get even with eBay by turning in all the other violators who are doing the same thing. Granted there is a problem and eBay's brand of "justice" is uneven. But that common knee-jerk reaction doesn't really accomplish anything.
Before listing a questionable item, if you think the auction MAY be cancelled, run it past SafeHarbor first. If they say no, then it's no. That way, you have some sort of safety net.
