roadsmith
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posted on September 2, 2008 03:20:40 PM new
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWEDMLmjKk
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deur1
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posted on September 2, 2008 07:47:32 PM new
you can find anything on youtube ..... anytime of day
yesterday there were thousands of lil videos showing the bebe of Sarah was her daughters bebe
It was all over the internet, lies spread fast
youtube is not my news source
BTW - A great Democrat is giving a magnificent speech for McCain at this moment.
Lieberman is speaking from years of knowledge and experience.
The sooner folks get over that "political party loyalty" is more important that voting
for the better person --- THE BETTER!
[ edited by deur1 on Sep 2, 2008 08:04 PM ]
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coach81938
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posted on September 2, 2008 08:57:25 PM new
deur1--This video is one man's opinion. He was a classmate of McCain's at the Naval Academy. He was a highly decorated officer during Viet Nam. He was a POW with McCain. He has his opinion, based on what he knows about McCain, then and now, that he would not be a good president. It is his opinion--you can believe it or not.
You don't have to worry about where Roadsmith gets her news. She is a very well informed poster.
By the way, has anyone noticed that McCain is bringing up his POW days more and more often and at very inappropriate times. On Jay Leno show, Leno asked him how many houses he had and McCain answered by saying when he was a POW he didn't have a house or a kitchen table or a chair. Huh?
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deur1
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posted on September 2, 2008 09:37:31 PM new
I know roadsmith is sharp as a tack. I have always enjoyed roadsmiths post. Do not always agree but do enjoy.
I was more or less teasing about youtube
Of course,McCain is "milking" his POW experience. Then again,it was quite an experience.
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roadsmith
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posted on September 2, 2008 10:55:34 PM new
Aw, shuckins, deur (hanging my head in embarrassment), thanks for the kind words!
I think the salient point of the fellow-POW's observations about McCain is the short fuse, the quick temper. That can be worrisome at that "3 a.m. call."
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Helenjw
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posted on September 3, 2008 05:19:05 AM new
"I think the salient point of the fellow-POW's observations about McCain is the short fuse, the quick temper. That can be worrisome at that "3 a.m. call."
And with that ferocious rush of adrenalin his heart may blow a fuse leaving the soccer mom in charge...the one who learned all she knows on a basketball court.
Oh Lord, deliver us from Sarah and John for they know not what they do.
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desquirrel
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posted on September 3, 2008 08:29:35 AM new
This is akin to the Swift Boat organization where 3 guys said one thing and 250 said something else, but the 3 guys were "right". LOL.
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coach81938
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posted on September 3, 2008 09:28:12 AM new
"This is akin to the Swift Boat organization where 3 guys said one thing and 250 said something else, but the 3 guys were "right". LOL"
No one said he was "right". It is just his opinion, which is not too shabby. He was in the top 1/3(?) of his class at the Naval Academy, was highly decorated and was also a POW.
Not all military back McCain.
The Center for Responsive Politics, a nonpartisan group that tracks campaign money, reported today (Aug.14, 2008) that Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than McCain. Ron Paul, who like Obama opposes the Iraq war, has received four times McCain's amount though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination.
Not all military back McCain.
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Helenjw
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posted on September 3, 2008 09:55:58 AM new
Listen to the video and you will hear from Palin that her foreign policy is in the hands of the Lord.
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kiara
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posted on September 3, 2008 11:48:19 AM new
"Pray for our military men and women who are striving to do what is right. Also, for this country, that our leaders, our national leaders, are sending [U.S. soldiers] out on a task that is from God," she exhorted the congregants. "That's what we have to make sure that we're praying for, that there is a plan and that that plan is God's plan."
There is constant criticism that the so-called enemy also believes in being sent to war because of a higher power.
Helen, she'll probably have to tone down that 'cool' lingo tonight. 
"I'm like .......... okay ........
really really.......
.........cool
you know........
ya, ya....
.......that was awesome
......... freaks me out"
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desquirrel
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posted on September 3, 2008 07:31:53 PM new
"There is constant criticism that the so-called enemy also believes in being sent to war because of a higher power."
So you actually believe American Judeo-Christian beliefs are equivalent in any body's head to the perversion of religion by an 11th century murder cult?
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pixiamom
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posted on September 3, 2008 07:43:50 PM new
11th century murder cult - are you referring to to the Crusades? I detest all murder cults and unwonted killing - be it in the 11th century or the 21st. Killing in the name of religion is perverse.
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desquirrel
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posted on September 3, 2008 08:12:21 PM new
I try to live in the present, and the same crap you spew is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths over the millenniums. There IS good, there IS evil. Wishful thinking has never averted a crisis yet. Extending olive branches to Hitlers, Stalins, Husseins, et al, signs people's death warrants.
Guiliani gave a devastating speech tonight. Absolutely sickening that Obama could even be considered a candidate. That there were so many laughs at Obama's qualifications is sad, it wasn't a comedy routine.
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pixiamom
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posted on September 3, 2008 08:26:56 PM new
"I try to live in the present, and the same crap you spew is responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths over the millenniums. There IS good, there IS evil. Wishful thinking has never averted a crisis yet. Extending olive branches to Hitlers, Stalins, Husseins, et al, signs people's death warrants.
Guiliani gave a devastating speech tonight. Absolutely sickening that Obama could even be considered a candidate. That there were so many laughs at Obama's qualifications is sad, it wasn't a comedy routine."
Please do not hold me responsible for hundreds of millions of deaths over the millenniums. Please hold George Bush and John McCain and all others who support the war (for what? 9/11? oil interests? ego?) for our recent losses. We have lost far too many sons and daughters. I can't figure out why. The war has to stop.
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coach81938
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posted on September 3, 2008 08:41:44 PM new
Giuliani's speech was sickening, as was Palin's. They were both typical (recent) Republican speeches--full of sarcasm, mockery, insults, lies,scare tactics, but little substance (much like desquirrel's posts.) McCain's POW history, along with Palin's Down syndrome son were paraded in front of the audience. It was a sorry display.
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profe51
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posted on September 4, 2008 06:06:10 AM new
Ms. Palin has compared herself to a pit bull. Hopefully this will signal the Obama campaign that the gloves are off and nothing about her is off limits. You don't handle an attack dog gently.
Her speech energized McCain's base. But he can't win with just the base. I seriously doubt it earned him any extra votes.
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pixiamom
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posted on September 4, 2008 06:53:57 AM new
Fox news just compared Palin's speech last night to 1952 Nixon's Checkers speech - LOL!
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coach81938
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posted on September 4, 2008 07:32:07 AM new
I am amazed that many of the talking heads are calling this a great speech, though not all. I don't know how you can call a speech filled with condescension, sarcasm, mockery, obfuscation, but no substance, great.
As far as the Checkers speech, it was good for Nixon because it showed a personal family side to him. Too bad we didn't see the profane, lying, sociopathic side of him.
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Helenjw
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posted on September 4, 2008 08:59:13 AM new
The Republican convention and the speech delivered by Palin has only managed to make it perfectly clear that four more years under a McCain presidency will be four more years of Bush policy.
Regardless of media bias, I believe that the American public recognizes and will reject Republican strategy to avoid discussion of critical problems such as foreign policy, health care, energy and the economy.
I agree with your assessment of the speech, Coach.
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mcjane
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posted on September 4, 2008 09:05:32 PM new
Not a man to lead....read on>
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1024927/The-wife-John-McCain-callously-left-behind.html
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roadsmith
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posted on September 4, 2008 09:56:20 PM new
McJane: Thanks for that link. I've been wondering about the first castoff wife.
What a jerk.
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pixiamom
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posted on September 4, 2008 11:15:45 PM new
Despicable, but my guess is that Carol is better off without McCain - according to another report, McCain was abusive to Cindy in front of 3 reporters and called her the C-Word. Not a good omen for a family-values type of man...
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deichen
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posted on September 5, 2008 06:15:05 AM new
Thank you McJane. This is what I thought all along about McCain. He makes me ill.
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mcjane
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posted on September 5, 2008 11:24:20 AM new
There is more about the man who wants to lead our country & it's just as bad. His wife is not the only one he coldly cast aside.
http://www.blackstarnews.com/?c=135&a=4823
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barparts
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posted on September 5, 2008 01:49:27 PM new
Wow,
Squirl is still here. Good for you. At least their is one person still here that has some common sense.
Now lets let the droan's have their day. The actions of the Democratic Thugs in St. Paul outside of the Xcel Energy Center show the typical Democratic response. Frankly they embarrassed themselves to the point where anyone voting Democratic should feel ashamed of themselves.
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desquirrel
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posted on September 5, 2008 02:32:17 PM new
That's the "freedom of speech" division". Problem is too many of the "bad" people try and say something.
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coach81938
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posted on September 5, 2008 03:13:23 PM new
"The actions of the Democratic Thugs"
Thugs? They were arrested for unlawful assembly! How thuggish of them. Sending 4,000 soldiers to their deaths beats unlawful assembly anytime.
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Helenjw
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posted on September 5, 2008 04:37:07 PM new
Now, with both feet in your mouth are you "still here", barparts?
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kiara
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posted on September 6, 2008 03:27:10 PM new
So you actually believe American Judeo-Christian beliefs are equivalent in any body's head to the perversion of religion by an 11th century murder cult?
desquirrel, I agree with Pixiamom that killing in the name of religion is perverse, no matter when it happens.
It's ridiculous to try to make all others believe that a war started by power hungry leaders is a plan by a god figure they happen to believe in. Sometimes they don't even really believe, it's used as a tool because the ignorant under them will actually believe it.
Perhaps instead of acknowledging that the leaders they supported have screwed up, or for the leaders having to admit the true reasons they go to war, it's easier for some to believe it's all the plan or will of a higher being - then no one has to take responsibility for wrong doing or for the deaths or injuries of the young men and women sent to war or any innocent civilians caught in the crossfire.
There are extremists at both ends from the leaders right down to the followers and it's always been that way.
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desquirrel
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posted on September 6, 2008 03:52:09 PM new
"Sometimes they don't even really believe, it's used as a tool because the ignorant under them will actually believe it. "
Immaterial. It is like saying you cannot harm a rabid raccoon because after all, the raccoon didn't want to be rabid.
You cannot "negotiate" with people that will wipe out huge numbers of their own people or with those would commit willing suicide over theology.
Wishful thinking will not prevent countries like Iraq and Iran from becoming havens for these animals. Neither will it prevent the funneling of money and providing other material support for these groups until they manage to acquire the funds and resources to obtain dirty or biological weapons. The only question is is a country a supporter or non-supporter. If it is a supporter then any means necessary must be used until it is clear that it is not in their best interests to be a supporter.
The lament that x soldiers die fighting these animals over the years is ridiculous in face of the loss of almost the same number of civilians killed in a single morning.
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