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 Pocono
 
posted on February 27, 2001 09:39:59 AM new
firstover:

I DO understand your thinking, and please do not mistake my outlook on the "whole" for defending this persons ethics.

I am not!

I have been on ebay a long time...way too long, and have been a victim of "incorrect" net-copping. (to put it politely)

The problem I see is not this one particular person, or what they are selling, but the "idea" that interfering in anothers business is ok.

How are they to know that your remark to them was accurate? Perhaps they think you were trying to get a partial refund, and fudged a bit? They could still be uninformed, if not ignorant.

Can you email me the auction link, so I can take a look?

It make a world of difference...

It could be a "unique" item, where each is different such as a jewel, or a coin, or it could be a lawn mower...lol

We don't know.

It's kind of like asking "do you like italian food?"

Yes and no, I like the pasketties, but not the intestines... see?

[email protected]

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[ edited by Pocono on Feb 27, 2001 09:43 AM ]
 
 laum1
 
posted on February 27, 2001 09:50:58 AM new
I think an interesting survey would be to ask readers of this thread if they are now more incline, less incline or not influence at all about buying a collectible on ebay after reading this thread versus before reading this thread.

That is assumming all posters to this thread are representative views of sellers on ebay, which is of course a big assumption.



 
 amy
 
posted on February 27, 2001 09:56:05 AM new
Laum1..in answer to your survey...not influenced at all.

 
 NearTheSea
 
posted on February 27, 2001 10:21:52 AM new
Depends on what one considers 'collectible'.
Because of the dollar amount attached, or will be. The name. Or because 'I collect these because I really like them.'

Some people used to collect pet rocks (maybe they still do)

then there may be some people that collect Yugo's -just cuz
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 firstover
 
posted on February 27, 2001 10:32:01 AM new
Hi ksterni,

No offense was taken. I was just trying to point out that it's not a typical he said/she said situation. If I could disclose more fully I'm sure you and others would understand.

unknown,

Yes she DOES know. She agrees with me and sells it nontheless. She can very easily get her own expert to check it out. The person I contacted has been in the business many years (member of many different Socities relating to this subject, certifed etc.) and even has examples in his own collection.

Pocono,
I've gotta run out, but I'll think about emailing you later on. Don't know if I want to do that.

Just to reiterate to those reading this
thread (are we having fun yet? ), it is not really a subjective situation as to whether it is a rarity or not. I can't get more specific without identifying the seller. You (anyone) can choose to believe me or not. In many ways this is a repeat of the PS2 box thread, i.e., knowingly misleading the bidders. Really don't know if there much more to say on the subject but we'll see


 
 glenda
 
posted on February 27, 2001 11:37:08 AM new
Here's the rule about auction interference - it was revised a couple of months ago:

"Auction interference - Emailing bidders in an open or ended auction to warn them away from a seller or item."

http://pages.ebay.com/help/community/investigates.html#bidding

 
 unknown
 
posted on February 27, 2001 12:57:37 PM new
Inresponse to:
Yes she DOES know. She agrees with me and sells it nontheless. She can very easily get her own expert to check it out. The person I contacted has been in the business many years (member of many different Socities relating to this subject, certifed etc.) and even has examples in his own collection.

Collectables are worth whatever they sell for. Therefore your expert is WRONG. The PROOF is that it sold for $40 at auction. Therefore is IS worth that much.

The only thing that makes them worth something is that someone will pay something for them. And in this case several people offered ~$40, You, your running up bidder, and the BIN buyer.

My guess is that she simply agreed with you to de-fuse any potential problem. We all run into our share of nut cases from time to time.

 
 birdwatcher-07
 
posted on February 27, 2001 01:16:22 PM new
I like triplesnack's solution of putting it up for auction! You could say something like, "When I first saw this item, I thought it was a rarity. But after looking at it closely and taking it to an expert, I realized it was just a ....." You could do this without ever even hinting that you had bought it from another seller on eBay(although people could look at your bidder's list and find out).
 
 dave61bug
 
posted on February 27, 2001 01:46:57 PM new
Firstover, I have to agree with you, and not the others who say "well the seller didn't have an appraisal/information like you did so......she/he should keep selling". Nope. It's unethical to me. If a seller receives any type of feedback from a buyer or prospective buyer, that the item they are selling is not up to par, then that seller should try to remedy their auction. What do I mean by that? Do more research, FIND out if it's true or not. Ebay does not need a bad reputation.
 
 Pocono
 
posted on February 27, 2001 01:57:42 PM new
I collect squished pennies...REALLY!

I travel all over the US buying them, and have paid as much as $60. for one worthless squished penny.

Hell, it isn't even worth 1 penny anymore, since it's squished. Can't spend it.

But to ME, it is worth far more then the $60. I paid for it. Heck, I woulda went as high as $90.

So you see, I can take it to an expert numismatic (coin) shop for an "appraisal", and they will tell me it is worth 1 cent less then a penny.

BUT... another collector has offered me $75. for it.

So you see? the value is in the eye of the buyer, and is dictated by the demand, not the net narcs.

 
 mrpotatoheadd
 
posted on February 27, 2001 02:03:27 PM new
What kind of squished pennies?
 
 Meya
 
posted on February 27, 2001 02:14:01 PM new
Does it matter what they are squished with?

I'm off to find my hammer...
 
 laum1
 
posted on February 27, 2001 02:24:47 PM new
firstover

Squish a penny - sell it to Pocono and make up for your loss

I guess some readers would NOT object to sellers auctioning off empty Playstation 2 boxes (scans showing a sealed Playstation 2 Box) without disclosing that the boxes are empty and that they are selling only the box.

Seemed to remember a recent incident...

 
 Pocono
 
posted on February 27, 2001 03:12:54 PM new
The PlayStation is a different animal entirely, but STILL... I read a description for an empty box... that's another thread tho.

The pennies are "rolled" and have sayings, or logo's or such pressed into them.

Really a fun hobby. Here's some squished pennies...



Visit the Squished Penny Museum

http://www.squished.com



The biggest enemy of authentic squished pennies: the dreaded squashed penny. This demon has been the subject of many squished penny discrepancies.

Here's an example of a squashed (not squished) penny.



Please do not squash pennies Meya, as that is considered fraudulant squishing, and frowned upon in society...LMAO


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[ edited by Pocono on Feb 27, 2001 03:22 PM ]
 
 Meya
 
posted on February 27, 2001 03:36:41 PM new
I have one of those from the Cleveland Zoo. It has a gorilla on it. I just found it in the bottom of my purse. I'll sell it to you for $40.
 
 gc2
 
posted on February 27, 2001 04:05:37 PM new
Well, what I really don't understand is why the seller has not been invited to this thread. Whether she comes or not, at least we could be given the auction number and make some judgments based on the facts, instead of guesswork.

(...and by the way, my Alamo/Davy Crockett should bring a premium price, huh?)


 
 firstover
 
posted on February 27, 2001 06:20:17 PM new
dave61bug Thanks! Hmmm, I have a brother named Dave who was born in '61 and he used to bug me...no couldn't be

gc2, in an earlier message I mentioned she had been invited. Haven't heard from her yet.

pocono, LOL! At least you are making an informed decision when you buy squished pennies. Your sellers aren't saying they are otherwise.

unknown,Quick! Call Sony and tell them their empty boxes are worth $400! After all, that's what they are getting at auction. But buy some stock first!

glenda, thanks for the link. Maybe I'll just let safeharbor know what's going on and leave it at that.

birdwatcher, that is tempting!



 
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