posted on June 28, 2003 05:39:59 PM new
fluffy, you are incorrect. I can even point to one of my husband's published books on criminal law and several of his papers, but you won't find mention of them on Google. For example, insert the term "momentum player" into Google and see if you can find mention of the actual term.
shop4shoes, I think you are confusing the term "welfare mama" with "welfare mother." Yes, a "welfare mama" is a single mother on welfare, but a single mother on welfare is not necessarily a welfare mama. The term has specific meaning, arising from the socio-economic climate of federally subsidized welfare housing.
grumpyebayer, taking offense is generally done out of ignorance. I walk in a different world than many of you. I have a different education than many of you. I have a different lifestyle than many of you. My peers are different than yours. Just because you think the term is offensive, and just because others don't realize the term has specific meaning within specific areas of study, does not mean that I am "lying through my teeth." I do NOT have a history on this board of engaging in name calling, of using foul language or creating fictions, so it is highly doubtful that all of a sudden I would seize the opportunity to degrade single women on welfare. I write with clarity, and will always say if I was mistaken. If you take offense, it is because you translate the term into a meaning that is not there.
buffalowoman, let me make myself more clear. An eBay seller has to put in their TOS exactly what they do and don't do. It is a valid assumption that sellers will keep a buyer informed throughout the transaction process, since that is what other online sites do. If a seller does not choose to answer customer emails, or emails generated through eBay's Ask A Seller A Question, or send the customers information as to the payment and shipping status, then the seller needs to state in their TOS that they don't do so. If your seller does not have this language in their TOS, then yes, it is reasonable for you to expect communication from your seller in the same timely fashion. Again, my advice is to file your Paypal Buyer Complaint Form on day 10 or 11 and proceed from there.
I think what others are saying is that your topic doesn't interest them. Rather than not posting to this thread, they make rude remarks to you. I find your topic has value, as have other posters, such as retrobargains and the strawberry lady.
posted on June 28, 2003 06:09:04 PM newI can even point to one of my husband's published books on criminal law and several of his papers, but you won't find mention of them on Google
Anyone can be published. It means nothing since there are plenty of pay-for-publishing houses out there. It was once published that the earth was flat, that does not mean it is correct.
shop4shoes, I think you are confusing the term "welfare mama" with "welfare mother." Yes, a "welfare mama" is a single mother on welfare, but a single mother on welfare is not necessarily a welfare mama. The term has specific meaning, arising from the socio-economic climate of federally subsidized welfare housing
I am not confusing anything. "welfare mama" is a derivative slang for welfare mother.
grumpyebayer, taking offense is generally done out of ignorance. I walk in a different world than many of you. I have a different education than many of you. I have a different lifestyle than many of you. My peers are different than yours.
Grupmy is many things, but I don't think ignorant is one of them.
You know nothing about anyone's peers or lifestyle on this board. All you really know about people is what you see on this board. Overall I see, some well educated articulate folks. We just don't see any need to bring up our education. Many of us have realized that education is only a part of what makes a knowledgeable person.
Your entire tone is condesending.
Lets take a Survey:
Who here is college educated?
Who here has a sibling, spouse or close relative that is published and considered knowledgeable in a specific field?
Who here is sucessful and well known in their particular field?
Who here lives in a "differnt world" than the rest of us?
posted on June 28, 2003 06:15:58 PM new
hotcupoftea
Thank you for you comments.
As for the transaction that started this thread, I did receive my widget,after 11 days. That is a reasonable amount of time-I just wish the seller had communicated with me.
The item was as described so I did leave a positive feedback, even though I felt the seller was lacking in Customer Service by not acknowledging in any form the end of the auction. (Package just showed up while I was trying to figure out what to do next)
My emails and the phone calls to seller were done within the guidelines of eBay, in that I try to resolve the issue before making a complaint or charge back.
I am still interested in the topic of this thread and continue to read it in spite of everything.
Hope you and the others that have acted in a responsible manner have a very safe and happy 4th of July
J. C.
posted on June 28, 2003 06:16:06 PM new
Let's back up the buffalo cart here!
posted on June 24, 2003 09:13:19 PM
buffalowoman says: I get an email saying the package had been shipped on June 16th-3 days after auction ended ( why didn't they let me know this before Package arrived today!
So why should she file a complaint with PayPal? She was happy with the goods, she kept them. The seller shipped within 3 days. She won the auction on a Friday and he shipped on the Monday.
From June 13 until today she has been wringing her hands over this. Get a grip!!
Sheesh! What if she ever had a serious problem like so many have that have posted here?
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I haven't published anything yet but I have partied with the rich and famous and also with the bad bikers and welfare scum. I could publish that.
posted on June 28, 2003 06:35:37 PM new
"From June 13 until today she has been wringing her hands over this."
That is only partialy correct. Once the package had arrived and I was sastisfied that it was in working order I left feedback and considered the transaction finished.
The topic of this thread really has nothing to do with the completed transaction.
I asked for input on "Should a Seller be held to the same rules as they expect from their buyer's"
It is not necessary to have a transaction in progress to ask a question such as this. I am simply looking for information and other's opinions.
J. C.
posted on June 28, 2003 06:37:45 PM new
out of lurking for the entire weekend....
Hotcup of tea, I often find your posts well written and thought provoking.
The post about the welfare mama was not one of them.
I also agree with others that found your entire tone condescending. When shop4 pointed out the origin and definition of welfare mother, you responded by implying that your education and circle of peers were better than some of us here. Therefore you are more knowledgeable.
Welfare Mama is slang for "welfare mother". It has the same meaning in all areas of study of which the term would be of interest. Unless, something has changed in the past few years since I finished my education.
Who here is college educated?
Degrees in Sociology and Anthropology. Both with honors.
Who here has a sibling, spouse or close relative that is published and considered knowledgeable in a specific field?
All of my immediate family except me. I have an insane cousin that is published too, but we try to forget he exsists. Kiara, I have partied (among other things) with the rich and famous. We can do a book together.
Shop4, I would love to see your answers to your questions.
I think what others are saying is that your topic doesn't interest them
I found it more interesting before she started another thread on it.
[ edited by soshoeme on Jun 28, 2003 06:43 PM ]
posted on June 28, 2003 06:49:47 PM newThe item was as described so I did leave a positive feedback.
Truly, if you were so upset with him why didn't you mention bad communication in the feedback after ranting here for over a week? Perhaps you could warn other buyers?
I still think it was because you neglected to read his Me page.
posted on June 28, 2003 06:53:22 PM new
soshoeme
Just out of curiosity-what other thread are you talking about? If you are referring to the "Need Seller's Help", that was started before this one.
J. C.
posted on June 28, 2003 07:10:44 PM new
Seller delivered the goods as described and in a timley manner, so the transaction was completed. (That was never the problem-the problem was lack of communication-TOS states I must make contact within 3 days-I did not hear from seller for 7 days)
Unlike some other's I have never had a reason to leave a neg.
When I ask for advice I listen to the answers. I agree with the ones that posted -even though the seller was not the best in the world he did fulfill his end of the transaction so there was no reason to leave anything other than a positive.
My feedback was very simple "Item as described" and I left it at that.
Why didn't I warn other buyer's? Warn them of what? According to the ones that have taken over this thread it is none of the buyer's business when shipment is to be made so there is no reason for a seller to contact the buyer. so what is there to warn about?
J. C.
posted on June 28, 2003 07:19:03 PM new
just want to be the 100th posting-
the whole thread is BORING --------------------------------------------------------------
posted on June 28, 2003 08:34:39 PM new
shop4shoes, I don't know of a single law professor who paid to have their manuscripts published. What an absurb notion.
Also, I don't think I ever said anything about my level of education at any time. Again, you are choosing to put meanings to my words that are not there. I live in a different world than you because my husband is dying. It is that simple. That is why no one else on this Board can know my world. The fact of this matter will always take first priority in my life, shape my business decisions, shape the world around me, and shape the people with whom I associate. Rather than choose to be abrasive and argumentative with a person, accept what they say for what it is, nothing more and nothing less.
soshoeme, I don't believe I was condescending. At no time did I mention my level of education, level of income or any other fact other than I can point to my husband's published works which contain the term since one individual was rude enough to call me a liar. I perceive that many readers choose to place intent that is not there. That is your choice. However, you are wrong. Again, I will say that I live in a different world, I live differently than the rest of you, and it is really presumptious to put intent to my words when you do not know me.
Buffalowoman, the point of what I said is that you never know who the seller is. You have extremes at each end, and everybody in the middle. I suspect that eBay will eventually standardize sellers options in order to remain competetive in the online marketplace, thus forcing sellers to adhere to more buyer friendly policies.
Also, I never read any of your other threads, so this topic is new to me. I don't spend much time on my computer during the suumer months, so I don't read this Board as much. I am happy the situation resolved itself for you. I don't think you will get any more insightful comments from other readers.
posted on June 28, 2003 08:41:33 PM new
you buy a cake at the store.
you eat the cake, and the frosting, but you hate the taste of the frosting.
You tell the store next time your in, "the cake was baked very well.
thats it ?? you don't tell them that the frosting was nasty ??
You go in 6 months later and buy another cake, Hello, same thing, the frosting is nasty.
If you don't say anything, how will they know to improve the frosting of the cake ??
I know you just will not buy there any more.Leave it to someone else to complain.??
Not me, I would have complained.About the cake that is.
I am complaining every day about other sh*t and the word is getting out.Only took 20 yrs or longer, but hey, it is getting out there now.!!!!!!
Good night to all. This thread has me [shaking] my head, LOL.
posted on June 29, 2003 04:54:33 AM new
Let's back up this buffalo cart again.
I thought the buffalo already stated twice that he/she will NEVER post again
