CBlev65252
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posted on December 3, 2003 05:08:52 AM new
I think I'm looking at the right auctions. $5.00 to ship a bracelet First Class? He once said at $5.00 Priority Mail that I charge too much. Most of the time I sent First Class for under a $1 and right now I'm offering free First Class. From the stern tone in the auctions, I guessing that I'm looking at the right ones. I see a lot of auctions running with a lot of bids, but I don't see a lot of money from those bids. I would assume he takes a hit quite a lot. Still, I wish him success with his new website.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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neglus
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posted on December 3, 2003 05:19:59 AM new
Cheryl- that's the beauty of Fluffy's game plan! She's one smart kitty! She "only" paid $18,000 to eBay because for every sale (even the $.01 ones) the cash register ca-chings $5.00 and eBay can't collect fees on that! I am sure she catches a lot of ca-ca for her inflated shipping fees but they are disclosed and not all that uncommon in the jewelry category. And as far as I can see, she is still listing as of last night.
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stopwhining
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posted on December 3, 2003 06:39:23 AM new
this is a she,not a he.
i have bot from her a few months ago,the bracelet comes in a padded envelope with a small jewelry box and it is shipped usps priority mail with dc,so that comes to 3.85 plus 45 cents.
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stopwhining
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posted on December 3, 2003 06:43:51 AM new
why are we bragging about how cheap can we get??
chinese farmers drifting into city looking for work found work on day 1,paying them 1 dollar a day.
even for chinese farmers,1 dollar is not enough.
is your mortgage all paid off?is your mortgage 1 dollar per month??
do you do all your shopping at one dollar store??
or would you like to go to china and make 1 dollar a day??
is that what you want??
please do us a favor and emmigrate to china.
i am so sick of all that i can do it cheaper #*!@!!!!!!
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vvalhalla
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posted on December 3, 2003 07:01:36 AM new
"I can do it cheaper" is the new mantra at ebaY.
dd
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stopwhining
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posted on December 3, 2003 09:40:36 AM new
good,tell your credit card issuer you cant make minimum payment and it should do without your payment from now on,LESS IS BETTER!!
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auctionACE
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posted on December 3, 2003 09:58:33 AM new
Fluffy's feedback is well below the required 98% to be a PowerSeller. The reason is the high s/h and 'no combining' policy. If you read the negative feedbacks you'll see several ones that say stuff like 'paid $4 s/h and item came in small bubble mailer with 74 cents postage'. Fluffy also charges $1 extra for third party insurance. That has to rile some buyers.
Fluffy's big competitor that does ten times her volume has a combining of buys policy and still makes out well on multiple buys.
Fluff's s/h is not that bad when compared to Bidz.com $7 per tiny item with no combining of wins.
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NearTheSea
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posted on December 3, 2003 10:11:12 AM new
Oh is that why fluffy is not a PS. I thought he/she opted out of the PS logo thing
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stopwhining
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posted on December 3, 2003 10:43:00 AM new
sure,those buyers want to get the item at one penny plus 74 cents shipping,too bad they are not the only bidders.
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auctionACE
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posted on December 3, 2003 11:07:33 AM new
There are a lot of sellers that charge the actual postage and those sellers have an adverse effect on the sellers that charge triple the actual s/h.
Fluff does have a hard time with the truth in regards to her turning down the PowerSeller icon. It may have been offered at one time to her by ebay but it sure could not have been offered in the last year.
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CBlev65252
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posted on December 3, 2003 11:40:11 AM new
I've only offered free shipping during the holidays. The most may be 85 cents on a package. I do this because places like Amazon are offering free shipping. It's actually helped me a bit. It is conditional, however. I won't give free shipping to someone buying 5 pounds worth of jewelry. I'd be shooting myself in the foot. I knew the auctions I looked at were fluffy's when I read the Me page.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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ebayvet
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posted on December 3, 2003 01:36:39 PM new
I found fluffy - She uses eDC, there is no extra cost for priorty mail using eDC - $5.00 is very fair for shipping on this item, she does not combine shipping, but you can't have it both ways! It is a built in guarantee that there is some profit on an item that could sell for a penny. People can complain, but if it is stated up front, they have no ground to stand on. Ebay should remove negative feedback from stupid buyers who have the auction terms right up front, and leave a neg because they don't like it after you bid. After reading her terms of service, there is NO WAY you can have the impression that you can combine shipping, no way at at all...
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auctionACE
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posted on December 4, 2003 02:08:13 AM new
What many bidders do is bid on the one cent auctions start bid and think that they will never win. When they win and multiple auctions and get a large invoice for maybe three one cent items they balk and squalk. ( 3 cents for the items and $11.85 for the s/h )
I seriously doubt that Fluff uses Priority Mail. A VERY large part of her profit is in making a few bucks on every auction with the shipping amounts.
Something that is going to hurt many sellers with a lot of negative feedbacks is the new ebay feedback system coming soon. It will be very similar to Yahoo Auctions system in that you can click on a link and only negative feedbacks will appear. Some sellers with 97% ratings and volume sales currently have it so it is very difficult to view the bad feedbacks without spending a lot of time scrolling through numerous feedbacks. The new system will make it a snap to see just the negative fedbbacks and seeing page after a page of nasty complaints may scare off many potential bidders.
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CBlev65252
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posted on December 4, 2003 05:09:05 AM new
In fluffy's defense, the shipping costs are stated up front and in more than one place. I'd hardly bawk at paying $5.00 shipping if I got a piece of Sterling Silver jewelry for $.01 or under $1. However, I would have expected more from him photo-wise.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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neroter12
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posted on December 4, 2003 05:26:33 AM new
Is the Fluster dead? I bet fluffy is reading this thread and just shaking her head laughing. (I cant believe she would not take the bait from Ace though to post and answer him back! - Not like her!)
Fluffy if you are reading this, post to your admirers/detractors!! If not, I offer a pink rose to your Vendio / Virtual casket laid here! :-0
(ps: why do some still think she is a man?
Didnt she post she was a lesbian at one time? Lesbians are women right????..lol Maybe that is more 'persona' creativity??)
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neglus
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posted on December 4, 2003 05:27:38 AM new
I would be sooooooooooo disappointed if FTW really did ship priority! I can just see her licking all those stamps!! (remember the postage thread where she said she used real stamps as opposed to electronic postage?)
The seller I have been admiring ships first class and offers optional insurance. FTW is too smart to waste all that $ on actual shipping cost!!
EDITED TO ADD: AND SHE IS TOO SMART TO BE A MALE TOM-CAT!
What's the difference in starting an auction at 1 cent with shipping charge of $ 5.00 and starting an auction at 1 cent with a reserve of $4.00 and charging $1 for shipping?? In the reserve scenario, Ebay gets the reserve fee, eBay gets a higher FVF...the consumer gets the same product at the same cost. In the $5 shipping sceanario, the seller realizes more profit in the saved fees. EBay loses - seller wins - customer ties! As long as eBay allows it, WHY NOT??
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stopwhining
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posted on December 4, 2003 06:02:23 AM new
I BOT FROM HER AND SHE SHIPPED IN A PADDED ENVELOPE WITH A SMALL JEWLERY BOX,USPS PRIORITY MAIL WITH DC,SO ALL YOU DUMBSHIT OUT THERE,DO THE MATH OR SHUT UP!!
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CBlev65252
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posted on December 4, 2003 07:06:56 AM new
stopwhining
No need to be vicious. She sells under more than one name so unless you've bought from all names. . . . The auctions I have looked at state $5.00 FIRST CLASS shipping. That's fine. She states it up front and if someone doesn't like it, they don't have to buy. I think you've blown all of this way out of proportion. She has provided a subject (.01 auctions) for us to discuss and that's exactly what we are doing. You don't have to read to participate if you don't want to.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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stopwhining
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posted on December 4, 2003 08:11:28 AM new
i participate as much as you and the rest participate.
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CBlev65252
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posted on December 4, 2003 08:20:58 AM new
stopwhining
I know you do participate and I enjoy most of your posts. But, there's no need to call people dumb a**es.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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auctionACE
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posted on December 4, 2003 09:40:55 AM new
I'd almost say that stopwhinning and Fluffy are the same person. A couple of months go this same exact thread about Fluffy's s/h terms was here at Vendio. Stopwhining said the same thing about buying something from Fluffy and it being sent Priority Mail. Stopwhining tried to derail the thread and you'd swear it was Fluffy.
CBlev65252 is correct. Fluffy states her terms up front and does mention the 'no combining' in several places. New buyers may no realize that much of her profits come from the padded s/h terms and the fact that multiple buys can not be sent without the padded s/h for each item all added together. Any seller having this setup is bound to get at least a 3% negative feedback rate.
And again Bidz.com charges $6 ot $7 per jewelry item with no combining and Fluffy's rates look much lower when compared to Bidz's.
One ironic thing about Fluffy's SS items is that many of the negative feedback posters call her stuff cheap merchandise and damaged when recieved. I think the feedback respondents try to get their licks in by doing this and the new ebay feedback setup is going to be murder on Fluffy if any bidder chooses to view just the negative feedbacks. Basic human nature will scare them away even though there are only 3 bad feedbacks out of every 100 given. That is one drawback of the new feedback system.
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CBlev65252
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posted on December 4, 2003 10:25:36 AM new
auctionace
You are exactly right about the new feedback system. How many bidders (especially newbies) are going to bother to see that the negative feedback may have been a year ago or may have been retaliatory? It will be interesting to see, but could damage a lot of sellers.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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MAH645
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posted on December 4, 2003 08:07:49 PM new
It would really hurt Sellers who have been good at burying their feedback by buying a bunch of stuff from other sellers real fast.
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neglus
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posted on December 5, 2003 12:46:07 AM new
Nero - you must be right...looks like FTWC has found a new home.. 
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neroter12
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posted on December 5, 2003 05:22:40 AM new
Neglus, yeah. I am disappointed but I suppose I will get over it. 
(No more high intellectual cat fights to read here? drats!
Cheryl, she picked on you a few times but you came right back, too. I think she just may have wanted your attention or take you down a peg because you were giving so much good japanese advice. Cats are like that ya know... lol.
Add about the new FB:
Wouldn't ya think newbies, being new, will not be able to figure out the search the neg fb right away, will ebay make that part of the page easily recognizable? and even if so will they bother to do it? Its a double-edged sword, really. You can spot a bad seller right away; but then you got that whole unfair neg thing going on too.
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stopwhining
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posted on December 5, 2003 06:37:25 AM new
my apology,i should not call people bla bla bla.
no,i am not fluffy,but i did buy an item from her because i want to see the piece.
in all fairness,the bidders are getting a fair deal,yes,with 5 dollars shipping.
i have been selling on ebay a lot longer than most of you and i would say that much-when you start your item at one penny ,you are bound to have bidders who want something for nothing.
she is carping on OTWA on how hard she works and how little she makes and she wished ebay will suspend her and put her out of this misery of selling on ebay.
it is time for her to revise her business model,just my personal opinion.
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CBlev65252
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posted on December 5, 2003 02:18:50 PM new
stopwhining
I think you may be right on with your assessment of fluffy's eBay business. There's not a chance in he** that I would start an auction at a penny. I've tried the 99 cent thing and got burned both times I tried it. Naturally, we'd all like to get something for nothing from time-to-time, but it seems to be reaching epidemic proportions on eBay these days.
neroter12
You also may be right. Where fluffy has the experience I don't with jewelry and glass items, I have it with oriental items. However, I'm not vain enough to think I don't have a long way to go to get where I want to be. I've put aside my learning for now. I'm far too busy between eBay and my personal life. It seems everyone wants me to sell their stuff for them. At first I thought it would be a great idea and now I'm hating it!
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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glassgrl
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posted on December 5, 2003 03:05:42 PM new
What happens when you have
1) nothing to do
2) a sharp knife
3) a large lime
4) a patient cat
5) too much tequila
6) and it's football season?
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Japerton
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posted on December 5, 2003 04:21:39 PM new
LMAO!!!
I just like to check this thread for the photos people post.
Well, I guess ol' fluff didn't like Vendio's boards "Rules of Engagement."
Keep posting the cat photos, they are a hoot!
J
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All the monkeys aren't in the zoo,
Every day you meet quite a few,
So you see it's all up to you.
You can be better than you are,
You could be swingin' on a star
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wgm
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posted on December 5, 2003 04:37:23 PM new
ROFL, glassgirl - love the photo!!
I don't care what anyone says, I say she's on vacation....
chilling out...
working on her family tree...
getting a new wardrobe...
getting in touch with her spiritual side...
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