jwwrs
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posted on March 7, 2004 06:28:24 AM new
I've been lurking here for about a year. I finally joined. I've learned a lot from the posts on this board.
Here's my question. Is it an infraction of ebay rules to conspire with other ebayer's to keep prices for an item up to a certain price?
I have received 2 emails from other sellers who have told me as much.
Before you look at a partial of an email I received, I must confess there are other issues(copyright infringement)that are in play. I am ready to end my auction because I did use other people's pics. I did not realize there was a prob. when I did it, but now that I have REALLY read the ebay rules, I realize I was wrong.
Here is what I have a problem with...partial email follows...
I can not speak for my friends but we have all also mutually agreed to keep our prices up in order to make selling this product profitable for all of us there is more than enogh bussiness to go around. We have all mutually agreed not to sell this product for less than $27.95 + shipping + handling for buy it now autions. You may also find that selling for less than that is not all that profitable once you add in your ebay fees.
Is price fixing OK?
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 06:34:51 AM new
price fixing is not okay in this country
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CBlev65252
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posted on March 7, 2004 06:35:57 AM new
I can't speak for the rules, but ethically, it's not right. By selling for what these sellers are you've increased your competition. Selling lower than them decreases your competition. Do the math. If I came across two identical items and one was 9.99 and the other 10.50, I'm bidding on the one for 9.99 (depending on the shipping costs, etc.). Which ever is lower is where my bid goes. If one is .99 with 5.00 shipping and the other 3.00 with 1.00 shipping. . .well, you get the gist.
Using other seller's pics without their permission can get your auctions yanked. I'd end the auctions and either use your own pics or email the sellers to see if you can use theirs. Personally, if my auctions were ended and I intended not to sell anymore of that item, I would probably tell you to go ahead and use the pics. But, that's not the norm.
My advise is to NOT play the price fixing game. It makes you no better than the oil companies that are keeping the gasoline prices high.
Cheryl
http://tinyurl.com/vm6u
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jwwrs
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:15:56 AM new
Thanks Yall,
Just waiting on the heavy hitters to chime in(fluffy,etc.)
jwwrs
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:23:33 AM new
Lurked here for a year and then has to wait on the "heavy" hitters? LOL
AIN'T LIFE GRAND... 
http://www.nogaymarriage.com/
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jwwrs
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:34:36 AM new
Believe me 12pole, I wasn't waiting on you.
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max40
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:41:41 AM new
Hey JW, your attitude won't bring you many friends or much help on this board.
Life is not a dress rehearsal
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:51:10 AM new
i beleive it is the dept of justice which investigates price fixing which is a federal offense.
dow chemicals spends 200 million dollars per year on freight,it has filed suit against 4 of its shippers on price fixing-2 norwegian,one dutch and one japanese.
will us govt come to ebay ??
i doubt it .
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Twelvepole
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:53:08 AM new
I hope not... LOL
AIN'T LIFE GRAND...
http://www.nogaymarriage.com/
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tomwiii
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posted on March 7, 2004 07:57:58 AM new
WELCOME to our sweet, wholesome, family-oriented, bizzarre-oo, whacktoid community!
Now crawl back unda yer bridge! 
Ralphie says ya donna pass his "SNIFF" test -- sumptun about FISH IN DENMARK?
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kiara
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:10:20 AM new
jwwrs, why didn't you name the topic "Newbie Needs Fluffy's Help" ?
Then you should have started out by saying that only Fluffy's opinion counts so any other posters need not respond as their opinions mean dick. That way you don't waste anyone's valuable time. 
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tomwiii
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:17:42 AM new
Oh! Kiara -- ye tickled Ralphie's belly severely!
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:25:53 AM new
JW makes Salga looks like a lamb.
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wgm
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:27:35 AM new
Then you should have started out by saying that only Fluffy's opinion counts so any other posters need not respond as their opinions mean dick. That way you don't waste anyone's valuable time.
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"I have neither the time nor the inclination to explain myself to the people who sleep under the very blanket of freedom I provide, and then question the manner in which I provide it." - A Few Good Men
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auctionACE
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:33:52 AM new
How can someone lurk here for a year and not know that ebay photo stealing is a big no-no?
Don't Saturn cars all cost the same with no price dickering? I wish more sellers would form cartels like OPEC to set prices on ebay. The idiot sellers are giving EVERYTHING away and they often are using the " It's the free advertizing I really want for my website " line.
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stonecold613
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:38:13 AM new
Here's my question. Is it an infraction of ebay rules to conspire with other ebayer's to keep prices for an item up to a certain price?
This technically is illegal. Price fixing is a very serious crime in this country and is often prosecuted with serious penalties.
But on the other hand, you do want to be careful not to undercut them by too much either. You then would also be cutting into your own profits. Personally I would get my own photos then post auctions at a price that I am comfortable with.
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trai
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:38:28 AM new
If you want a heavy hitter maybe you should post your question to Martha Stewart as she does have a lot of time on her hands now.
Is price fixing OK?
Sure, as long as you belong to a cartel. Just make sure you pay the proper percentage to the head of the clan.
Ed. because I can.
[ edited by trai on Mar 7, 2004 08:40 AM ]
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 08:48:25 AM new
JW can afford to undercut his competitors as he/she has stolen their pictures,time saved is money earned.
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neglus
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posted on March 7, 2004 09:06:43 AM new
Is she heavy enough for you?
PS: This is a stolen picture
[ edited by neglus on Mar 7, 2004 09:07 AM ]
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 09:33:17 AM new
neglus,
you are funny!
can i steal this picture,i love fat woman,THERE IS SO MUCH MORE TO LOVE-BIGGER PORTIONS.
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trai
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posted on March 7, 2004 09:55:23 AM new
i love fat woman
Well, in that case this should make your day.
There goes my lunch....
Time is up.
[ edited by trai on Mar 7, 2004 10:11 AM ]
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 09:59:12 AM new
thanks,i will add them to my HAREM.
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trai
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posted on March 7, 2004 10:02:37 AM new
LOL, you are one strange puppy...
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mcjane
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posted on March 7, 2004 10:20:38 AM new
I did use other people's pics. I did not realize there was a prob. when I did it
And you say you've been lurking here about a year.
Are you stupid or what.
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jwwrs
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posted on March 7, 2004 11:22:45 AM new
Yes, Jane, I WAS stupid. And I have pulled my auction.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 11:25:58 AM new
by the way,how do these women become so obese??
dont they have a life outside their bed??or their house or their fridge??
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auctionACE
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posted on March 7, 2004 12:25:07 PM new
There's the term 'price fixing' and there's the word ' collusion '. ( A secret agreement between two or more parties for a fraudulent, illegal, or deceitful purpose. )
You can bet there's a whole lot of collusion between sellers going on at ebay. Sometimes I think the gas station owners in an area get together and set the price.
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sanmar
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posted on March 7, 2004 12:32:01 PM new
Ace, I agree with you that there is collusion among ebay sellers in certain areas. As to the gas stations, the oil companies set the prices. The dealer is given a certain amount for operating. Thats why the price along a major hiways is usually higher than in the middle of town. In Santa Mariaprices are running from $2.15 to $2.33 for regular.
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stopwhining
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posted on March 7, 2004 12:43:16 PM new
1.67 is what i paid yesterday at local shell station for plus.
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auctionACE
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posted on March 7, 2004 01:29:33 PM new
Couldn't a gas station operator lower the price a penny over the local stations and then make up on volume and also extra stuff like smokes they sell in their stores? Almost none of the stations appear to be owned or operated by US born citizens and they sure appear to be a shifty lot.
A while ago I figured out why the gas is always sold an odd price like $2.05.9 cents with the decimal point. The gas pumps can not hope to be 100% accurate and the decimal point amount makes it tough to figure how much gas per gallon the buyer is due. If the price were $2 even a gallon, and the buyer paid $20 then the pump would have to say 10.0 gallons. But the pump can be off a fraction of a gallon and the decimal point added price must keep many patrons from complaining that they were shortchanged at the pump because they would need a calculator to know they were shorted and by how much.
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