posted on July 17, 2004 04:05:08 PM new
Seriously, rozrr what do you say to the winners of the auctions? Do you mention to them that you expect them to respect these books because they belonged to your father? Do you give a history with the books? Maybe the bidder didn't want all the burden of taking care of them so decided to just get rid of them again real fast.
posted on July 17, 2004 09:37:56 PM new
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hi again rozzr::
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i knew i had seen another post by you RE: your father's items. i deal in railroad memor, and had followed your post back in may...this particular post was about a "flaky bidder," and had +40 posts.. NOW, we have a second post for a "baffling" bidder.
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i also came across this advice you gave another poster on communicating/dealing with buyers/bidders....
and, i quote you..
"So I would say if someone is long-term with eBay and overall the feedback is good, call first before you issue the NPB - if that's practical."
"eBay's advice to call the other party really isn't very practical if it's a low-ticket item, and you have per-minute charges."
"But, if you can, a phone call clarifies it - you'll know where you stand."
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THEN you just told meadowlark:
"What I've been grappling with is that it's also counterintuitive for me to block someone who bid well, bid high, paid promptly, and left wonderful feedback - just as its so seemingly counterintuitive for someone to buy high and immediately re-sell for pennies on the dollar."
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QQQ---counterintuitive you say? ...how about counterproductive?
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QQQ---hey, why not do what you said...CALL THE BIDDER...not block him?!!
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you started this thread by talking about a gift..you said "it was meant as a gift." then you talk about "freebies." how you perceive receiving a gift, is evidently not the same as someone receiving a freebie.
QQQ--so, did you explain to the bidder he should accept the item as a gift, and not sell it for profit? or did you take bidder for granted that they would adhere to your thoughts about a gift?
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i want to neutralize one thought in your threads - that is second guessing what a buyer has the right, and plan, to do with the merchandise bought on ebay...and how they run a subsequent auction should be no more than a casual cause of curiosity to a seller of that merchandise...
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i am gonna give you two examples of "low ball" starting auctions...
[1]--caseyandgram..very successful respected furniture dealers...they start every auction at 9.99--whether it is a $3000 set of berkey gay, or a $30broyhill table...casey came to this forum early this year asking for advice on negative f/back..and was successful in getting it removed.
at any rate, do you see that other people do start items at a low number...and remember, the no. 1 cd seller on ebay; starts cd's at .99 i think..
[2]--another seller, mercedan, bought a 1500 lot of bookcases, parts from me...drove to s.georgia from k.city to pick up...he ran most of the lot over a 6 month period at starting bid of .99...some parts brought astronomical amounts, others didnt...
my point is, what business was it of mine...NONE...
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mot
posted on July 18, 2004 01:46:21 AM new
Toy, you said:
QQQ---hey, why not do what you said...CALL THE BIDDER...not block him?!!
That was in a completely different context. Someone else was baffled by a group of bidders who were about to go NPB. They hadn't responded to multiple notices and emails, even though they were long-term on eBay with good feedback. I jumped in to say - try a phone call first. That's what eBay tells you to do anyway, and it's worked out for me in several, very similar situations with 100% positive bidders who were mysteriously AWOL.
But it's not like I can call this guy and say: Hi, there. Say, I notice you've been trying to re-sell the stuff you bought from me in May, and it hasn't been working out very well. In fact, it looks like one of those tech-wreck-dot.bomb-bubble-crashes. Would you mind explaining your motivation?
The people I've asked on the buy side think my neighbor, the frequent bidder on eBay, hit the nail on the head - I had some hot auctions, and I attracted someone who wanted to bid, just to bid - gambler's mentality.
The consensus on the buy side is that I should go with my gut and block this guy. They say that when they're involved in a bidding war, sometimes they're up against an avid collector who's gotten a bit caught up
in auction fever, and sometimes they get someone who wants to push an auction up and up - not because they want the item; they just love the "action" and want the "win." They can usually sense the difference - and if it's the latter, they stop bidding. To a seller, it would look good to have a hot new bidder banging out those bids, but to an experienced, savvy bidder, they say that generally, they can sense when it's no longer "real" or when something is "off." They're also concerned that since this is another seller in the same segment who sells much of the same stuff but for much less, if he jumps into my auctions and bids them up, it might look fishy - like he's a buddy of mine who's pumping up my auctions.
I've never been involved in a bidding war as a bidder, but it makes sense to me.
But one of my guys might have a way to find out more.
posted on July 18, 2004 05:41:42 AM new
rozrr:
your f/back is +117[since2002] and impressive--especially from the performance from the buying side...you have some of the best customers... your customers' feedback ranges from a low of +58[who by the way has been here since 1998], to a +979[since 1998]... not exactly newbies, and not a bad report in the lot...simply professionally oriented people collecting railroad memorabilia...
i think i can safely say: you have as impressive a customer list, just on page 1, as anybody selling on ebay...
again, i buy/sell this category...that is what keeps my energy sparked on your post...
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QQQQ---i am not gonna editorialize anymore, but which one of these customers have you blocked...and again, i referenced just your page 1 feedback for "feedback from buyers."
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mot
[ edited by myoldtoy on Jul 18, 2004 05:42 AM ]
posted on July 18, 2004 08:14:34 AM new
I just do not see a problem here with the buyer, just the seller. There are just too many "what if" lines here.
Buyer bids, buyer paid, end of story. What they do with this stuff is up to them and no one else.
If they lose money on a resell is something they have to live with.To block a bidder just because they are reselling the books is in my opinion just plain nuts.
No point in looking for problems where they do not exist.Since you do not know what this person is thinking about its a mistake to assume a motive on their part.
