posted on July 21, 2004 12:50:16 PM new
Yes, I agree meadowlark. I didnt think I was railing on it. ? But you know people will. I've seen myself go from a 10 to a 12 to 14 and now inching out of that!! So I know. Just seems dishearting to see someone like Star who always looks beautiful despite the weight -- when I thought she did the stapling thing. There are alot of bigger women that are very attractive, they carry it well or something. I am prety compact so i've always hidden it well, but not now! lol!!
posted on July 21, 2004 01:06:35 PM new
neroter, my misconception! I thought from your posts that you were a guy, expecting all us females to fit his idea of desireable! LOL!
posted on July 21, 2004 03:45:50 PM new
meadowlark...lol, thats okay. I guess most people assume that with nero the post is male. (its my husbands and one of our animal's name!)
posted on July 21, 2004 04:57:06 PM new
mcjane~Do you live near Reading, Pa.?
I do and go up to Vanity Fair all the time.
I love the shoe outlet. That's where I get all my comfy Easy Spirit Shoes, they have a ton of them at really great prices!
posted on July 21, 2004 07:33:08 PM new
it is not healthy to be overweight,and in this country,it is getting out of hand.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 05:22:20 AM new
it is alright to eat red meat or drink beer or eat lagsagna or drink latte,it is the portion which is the problem-it is getting bigger and bigger.
when was the last time i ate at Mcdonald??
a big mac and fries is plenty for lunch,throw in milkshake and apple turnover,thats too much for a casual fare??
and where are we going afterwards??back into the car??back to the office or home and sit and sit??
I think the hormone in poultry and the hormone we take make us gain weight,some of the medication always make us hold on to too much water,Just my own observation.
Neuroter-from 10 to 14 and marching onward and outward,no wonder size availability on store racks goes from 10,then 16,missing 12 and 14.You have to be an earlybird to catch the 12 and 14.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 05:33:12 AM new
I think it's a matter of eating healthier. Eating healthy does not mean eating McDonald's or Burger King. I'm underweight and can sympathize with those who are overweight. Even on eBay it's hard for me to find clothes that fit properly. I'm constantly hounded about how skinny I am. Making weight comments to someone underweight is just as bad as making comments to someone who is overweight. I have some overweight friends who are beautiful just the way they are. If they're eating healthy and exercising the overweight part kind of takes care of itself.
My daughter struggles with her weight all the time. She used to take diet pills because as a young woman, she was made to feel ugly for being overweight. Thankfully, she has found that even the smallest of exercises (like walking) after a meal is very beneficial. She's also cut out the pop (diet pop is especially dangerous health-wise) and snacks she doesn't have to struggle so much.
Upon reading all of this, I guess I won't make such a big fuss when putting measurements in auctions anymore.
Cheryl
God grant that not only the love of liberty but a thorough knowledge of the rights of man may pervade all the nations of the earth, so that a philosopher may set his foot anywhere on its surface and say: This is my country. - Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 06:16:07 AM new
Sparkz, and you know that low carb eating is a scam because....? You give yourself away with your comment about "red meat" since the usual criticism by people who know nothing about the eating plan is that you can eat nothing but red meat and fat. That is also based on lack of information since the plan calls for reducing the amount of "simple carbohydrates" in your diet. Complex carbohydrates can be very tasty. As for a scam, I will be delighted to go along with a scam that took 60 pounds off my husband and 30 pounds off me. It also reduced his blood pressure and cholesterol so much that his doctor took him off the medications he had been on for years.
I also don't believe it is just a question of cutting calories because we were able to drop weight on a low fat, low calorie diet but were always hungry and would gain it back with a little extra within a short time after we hit our goal. This time we have kept it off for almost a year and are planning to eat "low carb for life".
Sorry if this keeps this thread "off topic" but it hit a "hot button" for me. Back on topic, I agree that measurements are more important on an online auction since you can't try things on and often have no recourse to return them.
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posted on July 22, 2004 06:28:07 AM new
i am not a big steak or red meat eater,but everytime i have a good steak,i feel full and i dont have the yearning to keep checking what is in the fridge??
my mother has the right idea when she said-when it is time to eat,eat till you are full.
she does not gain weight,but she wears a homemade girdle most of her married life!!
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 06:33:30 AM new
Stop, do you know the national average size is now a 14? Even Issac Mezarahie sp* - not looking it up)- is doing average sizes for Target! Thats where the money is in quanity.
On fast food: one big mac meal is almost three times the calories you're supposed to have for the whole day! We eat way too much fast food. Thats why this country is getting bigger and bigger. And stop those latte's are 300-400 calories a piece, and you think you're just having a coffee!
posted on July 22, 2004 06:46:42 AM new
My hubby has become borderline for diabetes, so we have to watch sugar and carbs. We were watching fat and calories. I have been cooking meats with fresh veggies and salads. We are both losing weight! I guess it is kind of a low carb thing, and not eating processed foods. We do have 'taters or rice or pasta, but only about once a week. And it's great right now, because he cooks all the meat on the barbie!
My daughter was overweight all of her life, until she was 29, when she suddenly decided to diet. She lost 95 pounds! She swears that part of it was giving up diet soda and most processed foods. I will never forget going with her to the trendy young women's shops and watching her delight at buying new clothes. Just to keep this eBay related, she also bought a ton of new things on eBay!
posted on July 22, 2004 07:30:50 AM new
size 14 is not bad ,but i am afraid many are way over that.thick upper arms and thick thighs,ever heard of THUNDER THIGH??
I have a haagan daaz capuccino smoothie?? before i started walking in the mall,it gives me energy to keep going and going and going.
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 09:20:02 AM new
EVERY BODY IS NOT WRONG.
it is just many of us cant stick to our diet plan.
we are no expert,we speak from our own experice.
You want to call us expert,then you have a lot to learn!!
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 10:11:27 AM new
Dieting? You are fighting your own body. And some put up a hell of a fight. It gets more difficult to lose as you get older. My wife had bariatric surgery and has lost over a hundred pounds. She got depression, gas problems, threw up easily, started an ulcer, and still needs to stay close to a bathroom in cause of a 'sugar purge'. The loose skin is not very attractive either, her words. After the surgery, she would cook food just to SMELL it. I gained weight.
My nephew had his stomach stapled, also. He lost almost 200 pounds. His boyfriend says the loose skin gives him something to grab hold of. The nephew does not seem to be any happier. His brother is 35 and weighs 400-500 pounds and we speculate he is still a virgin, so at least one of them has a sex life.
I have a theory that the overall weight gain in the population is in response to a future calamity. Just as the incidence of boy birth increases after a war (documented), I suggest the world wide population is putting on weight for an upcoming calamity. I hope I am wrong.
BTW, I enjoy viewing the female form, especially the 'healthy' looking ones.
posted on July 22, 2004 10:46:11 AM new
parklane you are right about the consequences of that surgery. Eating can be one of the few pleasures right up there with sex that just about anybody can enjoy.
Why else do we break bread so much & many it surrounds most of all our holidays? But they rarely talk about that being gone after the gastric bypass.
iarea: Suzanne Sommers is an expert! lol...{smiles}
posted on July 22, 2004 03:01:25 PM new
For crying out loud SANMAR & Stopwhining --The gal just wanted to know why sellers who list clothes on ebay in plus sizes can be lazy & not measure the article adequately. No where did I see anyone asking for advice on losing weight.
Sanmar if your in your 70's as you claim, its quite apparent to me that cooth is one thing in all your years you've failed to learn.
posted on July 22, 2004 03:46:56 PM new
sanmar just made a friendly suggestion or rather alternative??
Just think if you just lose weight,you dont have to worry what X size measurement it is??
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 05:42:18 PM new
It doesn't make any difference what size you wear and has nothing to do with how much one weighs. I wear a 10 from some manufacturers and a 12 from others. I too would like to see the measurements listed especially for inseams. They all seem to have different lengths for what they consider petite lengths. What is a size 12 for Eddie Bauer may be a size 10 for Lands' End. I wish the garment industry would come up with a universal standard for sizes.
posted on July 22, 2004 05:49:04 PM new
Friendly? FRIENDLY?
Sanmar even knew what he was saying was offensive. Let's hit the Instant Replay button, shall we?
I know that I am really asking for it, but have any of you "large sized women" ever thought about losing weight?
That's like wandering into a forum for rape victims and saying, "I know that I am really asking for it, but why couldn't you have just laid back and enjoyed it?"
I cut you an eighth of an inch of slack, SW, because you are from a different culture (though surely you have lived here long enough to know better). Sanmar does not have that excuse.
Hatred of the obese is the last legally and socially acceptable bigotry in this country. People wouldn't utter the kind of garbage I quoted above if they thought they'd get jumped on with both feet.
I am hereby going to make it my life's work to do exactly that. After half-a-century of being fat and being reviled for it, I have had enough.
posted on July 22, 2004 06:12:06 PM new
sanmar is a man,he just know his girlfriend lost weight,he has no clue how women gain weight and keep the weight on??
like someone said,eating replaces sex,eating replaces entertainment,eating replaces social life.
EATING IS LIFE ITSELF!!
-sig file -------we eat to live,not live to eat.
Benjamin Franklin
posted on July 22, 2004 07:06:05 PM new
Oh, boy...here I go...
Losing weight is not about dieting; it's a life style change and it's a major one. Not one to do just overnight. It takes one to make a commitment to change the way you look and the way you increase your body's ability to burn calories faster than you acquire them. There's no diet, no pill, no magic bullet...it requires decision making, commitment and fortitude.
I'm easily 50 pounds overweight but I haven't tripped the switch in my mind to make that commitment. And it's all about decision making.
What I CANNOT stand is to hear obese people whine and complain about their condition when they CAN do something about. My next door neighbor is married to an obese woman who pesters him to get a better job that pays more while she does NOTHING. You want to improve your situation? GET UP AND GET A JOB!! And don't tell me you can't because of health issues because all the health issues point right back to your weight. Make the commitment, lose the weight and you can make the effort. I know that's one specific case, but I see people fall on that excuse all the time.
posted on July 22, 2004 07:21:40 PM new
Hi everyone,
I have a comment that has to do with what Petpost said. IMHO, losing weight sorta kinda does involve a commitment or a decision but it's really more a change in mindset.
Probably 25 years ago I was about 40 pounds overweight (weighed 165) and I got tired of dieting. Just figured if I was gonna be a fatso that was it. No more dieting for me.
Now, I hope this doesn't sound flippant but I decided I was going to eat if I was hungry and not eat if I wasn't. The key word here is hungry. Not appetite, not, gosh that donut shop smells wonderful!
I discovered, for example, when my husband and I were having lunch, I didn't always want the whole sandwich or whatever I had ordered. So I asked the waitress to pack up what I didn't eat. Put it in my car. The kid that unloaded the car got the sandwich.
Worked like a charm - the car got unloaded and I didn't eat JUST BECAUSE IT WAS IN FRONT OF ME ON THE PLATE.
I started losing weight. After a couple of years I was down to 125, which is a good weight for me. I'm 5' 6 1/2" tall. Except for a few years ago, when my husband died and I went down to 119, that's what I've weighed ever since.
posted on July 22, 2004 08:37:50 PM new
My comment about low carb diets being a scam was meant to be exactly that. The numerous diet plans you see marketed today are merely marketing gimmicks for greedy companies that are more interested in their bottom line than their customer's health. It was the same with the grapefruit and popcorn diets, and the thousand other fad diets that make the rounds. The low carb diet has the most potential to cause long term damage to your health than any of the others that have been introduced since the advent of the infomecial on cable tv. If you are truly interested in losing weight and living longer, see a physician who can give you more accurate information in a 15 minute visit than you will gain in a lifetime of TV commercials and tabloid advertisements. It still amazes me that there are people who will take as gospel the word of a TV announcer and completely ignore the advice of their doctor (who by the way is the person who will eventually sign your death certificate). If the doctor says the Atkins diet is right for you, then go for it. Or go for whatever else he recommends. Don't try to do it yourself.
A $75.00 solid state device will always blow first to protect a 25 cent fuse ~ Murphy's Law
posted on July 22, 2004 09:17:07 PM new
I started the thread.
Yes, it went off topic to "Why don't fat people lose weight". Do I care?
Nah! I'm being entertainted! (I just saw that typo! I like it! Enter-tainted!)
However, The discussion going now is not helping anyone more insight into selling, or enlightening sellers what they can do to get more bids, which is usually what the majority of discussions here are about.
So below is my next pet peeve. Bear in mind I am not only an eBay buyer, I am also a seller. As an experienced eBayer who searches there nearly every day, bids and buys every week, I'm just saying what items/situations make my buying experience less than one would expect.
I bid on and purchased over $40.00 in buttons, you know, for sewing. There is one seller who has a great selection of colored buttons in bulk I had bought from before with no problem. I paid for the 7 auctions (about 1400 hundred buttons) with Paypal.
After the first 10 days and no buttons arriving, I began emailing the seller weekly, then every few days as it neared 30 days. After asking for a refund 3 times in the 4th week, I finally had to suggest I might have to ask Paypal for a refund before the 30 day cutoff, unless she personally refunded my money. She had no proof of delivery and I did actually not receive them.
She refunded, and all the while we remained on friendly terms, if slightly strained. This took 52 emails total, including the EOAs, etc.
I asked if I could I bid again & did, for only $19.00 worth of buttons. I paid with Paypal, she shipped. The package was returned to her by the Postal Service. She shipped it again. The entire re-sent package was in a new envelope and it was quite clear why it was returned earlier. The hand written address was so sloppy that the "U" in my street name had a long tail on it and looked like a "Y". No street named that.
She had emailed a few days before resending saying she could not figure out why it was returned. Get a clue, print the lables. I know you have a computer!
So I FINALLY got my buttons. I opened the package and immediately noticed that some of the buttons I ordered were smaller than the size posted in the auction.
Sloppy, sloppy, sloppy. Did she just guess at the size and not use a ruler?
I got an excellent deal on really nice contemporary metal ones at a steal of a price compared to what I would have paid in a sewing store. But darn it, the deal would have been a lot better if she delivered what was actually promised.
I have gone 'round and 'round with her so much, and she has been so irresponsible and can't see it, that I think she will end up giving me 4 negs if I pursue it further. She just can't seem to make things go right and can't seem to see she is causing her own problems. The second sale took 34 emails exchanged.
You would think it wouldn't take that to get serviced. Have I said I'm patient? I am. The buttons are nice and the deals were great. But not so great if you can't get what you pay for.
