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 enchanted
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:29:15 PM new
I'm sure Mark and Diana will be glad to know their site was "run by trolls". thanks for the info!

hepburn, he did say " ... I'm not here to kick back, relax and make a friend. " No kidding. I take you seriously on that statement. Quite true.



 
 Meya
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:31:57 PM new
Hepburn has only been here (with that ID) for a few weeks. They just don't remember The Wolfpack. There is no comparison to the group who posts here now.
 
 bunnicula
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:33:46 PM new
While I do not agree with Twinsoft's use of the word "trolls" he does have a point about "the bad old days."

Unfortunately, as usually happens, the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction and "moderation" here is becoming extremely draconian.

 
 bobbysoxer
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:37:44 PM new

hepburn

"pot, kettle, black.

he who is without sin cast the first stone.

glass houses, rocks , etc."



I likes that



 
 enchanted
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:38:13 PM new
ummm, by saying the site was "run by" trolls, that statement implies that the STAFF running the site were trolls, I am not discussing any prior set of posters here, either postively or negatively.

I am referring to twinsoft's statement that implied Mark, Diana and other AW staff at the time were trolls. Posters use a site but they don't run it, owners and staff run it.


 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:39:29 PM new
I am to please, bobbysoxer



 
 bobbysoxer
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:40:12 PM new

meya

The sign up date on the profile don't mean a person wasn't lurking or posting before that date.





 
 Meya
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:41:58 PM new
I realize that, that is why I put the notation in ()'s. There are many true newbies here however.
 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:43:36 PM new
I remember many things. It hasnt changed much here. Same attitude by some, extending to others.

I forgot another one:

splinter, eye, log

edited to change stick to log.




[ edited by Hepburn on Apr 1, 2001 12:44 PM ]
 
 Meya
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:44:30 PM new
pride, goeth, fall
 
 enchanted
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:45:16 PM new
LOL hepburn



 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:45:32 PM new
Meya

 
 bobbysoxer
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:47:45 PM new

Meya


Hepburn:

"pot, kettle, black.

he who is without sin cast the first stone.

glass houses, rocks

splinter, eye, stick, etc."





 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:50:58 PM new
Its almost poetic, isnt it?


"pot, kettle, black.

he who is without sin cast the first stone.

glass houses, rocks

splinter, eye, stick, etc.

Pride, goeth, fall"


[ edited by Hepburn on Apr 1, 2001 12:52 PM ]
 
 chococake
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:52:27 PM new
One of the worst offenders at that time was a moderator who is no longer here.

 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 12:54:37 PM new
Concerning "then" and "now". What is the difference, and why or why not?

 
 krs
 
posted on April 1, 2001 01:36:21 PM new
Actually the sign up date doesn't mean anything if it is as mine is, because AW upgraded the software and everyone was reverted to that date at that time.

I wonder how long twinsoft could have been here to have experienced a time when there were no moderators? I know that I remember his arrival, and so would Bob if anyone could ask him.

In any case twinsoft's postings of such phrased comments as:

"Despite Mark's growing antagonism towards AW members", and:

too seriously to cater to arrogant,haughty attitudes such as AW has displayed in the past few months", and:

"merely promoting fluff for the sake of fattening their site for sale", and:

"When I first came to AW, this site was run by trolls, aka The Wolfpack. There were no moderators",

each seem little different than those posts which recently brought about the revocation of Hellcat's AW membership.

I think that in the interest of the fairness promised in descriptions of moderating practices to come, a good new beginning is at hand.

fairnest?



[ edited by krs on Apr 1, 2001 01:44 PM ]
 
 pamlur
 
posted on April 1, 2001 01:41:10 PM new
I have a question that I don't think I have seen asked.

When a person is suspended for life (and I know of several who have been), do their names disappear automatically from the membership lists? If not, why not? It's not like their name being on a list does anybody except AW any good.



 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 01:42:59 PM new
Come to think of it, youre right, krs. Hellcats post was no different than the one twinsoft did. Only difference is she isnt here anymore, and he is.

 
 bobbysoxer
 
posted on April 1, 2001 01:55:00 PM new

Hepburn

Ah...the irony of it....





 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 01:57:40 PM new
As I said in another thread:

"It depends on who the author of the thread (or post) is".

 
 mivona
 
posted on April 1, 2001 02:04:46 PM new
Twinsoft,

Thanks for your words. It truly does feel like wilderness, and I'm getting rather tired of it. I have enjoyed the discussion here a great deal (on the whole), but utterly refuse to wear the AW "happy face".

With current policies, I reckon it will become rather insipid reading. I can't even post a "joke" website in the Round Table (dressing up Jesus) without it being deleted, and if I complain about not being able to discuss auctions I am told to clear off and stop moaning (without a murmur of "address the post" from the mod squad).

The line on what is acceptable now seems to be defined by how "happy" your face is, and although I will miss it (remember that fantastic thread on the "Van Gogh"? the AlienDistribution stuff?), I can do without the oppressive atmosphere.

There sure wouldn't be ANY discussion of those auctions under the current regime, and they (to me) were so much of the lifeblood of this board.

I am just weaning myself out of here.

p.s. Check your auction email...


typo
[ edited by mivona on Apr 1, 2001 02:41 PM ]
 
 femme
 
posted on April 1, 2001 03:19:40 PM new

Except for Donny's profound post ,
this is like 10 pages of deja vu all over again.

It's depressing...and, yes, I'm cranky.




 
 Meya
 
posted on April 1, 2001 03:26:16 PM new
I'm cranky too, but mostly because I seem to be the only member who can't keep track of all the comings and goings.

Yes, I notice at the time when a member is thrown off, but my brain doesn't hold onto details. It's quite distressing, and can make me seem "thick of brain" to some.

Ah well...that doesn't change the fact that I don't like the changes going on here at AW. Do I agree with everyone? Of course not...but that doesn't mean I don't get a chuckle out of many members posts. I don't have to agree with someone to be able to appreciate good writing or an intelligent point of view, even if that point of view happens to differ from mine.
 
 enchanted
 
posted on April 1, 2001 05:26:21 PM new
I'm referring to the suspension of a member for starting "another fluff thread".

nothing like making the few remaining posters, especially those who LIKE fluff threads (psst, like me) feel comfortable...

good night, Joice.

(sorry Hepburn I don't feel much like visiting right now. good luck.)


 
 joice
 
posted on April 1, 2001 05:27:30 PM new
Hello Everyone,

If you wish to make a complaint about my style of moderation, you may make those comments to [email protected]


You have email access to the Mod Squad and to Administration.

I have deleted the posts that complain about a moderation call that I made.




Joice
[email protected]
 
 bobbysoxer
 
posted on April 1, 2001 05:27:57 PM new





 
 bobbysoxer
 
posted on April 1, 2001 05:30:14 PM new

For the record I was not "complaining" I was simply expressing my opinion in a civil manner as to the reason the same-sex marriage was locked.





 
 Hepburn
 
posted on April 1, 2001 05:30:44 PM new
never mind. I will do it for you [ edited by Hepburn on Apr 1, 2001 05:31 PM ]
 
 enchanted
 
posted on April 1, 2001 05:35:00 PM new
it wasn't your post that was deleted, bobbysoxer, it was mine. sorry if you thought it was yours. Mine wasn't about that thread.



 
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