posted on April 3, 2001 09:12:31 PM new
Only once, my dear krs. OK, twice. Only at a certain place that encourages it's posters to grab a mask and go for it, and I lost those masks months ago.
kraftdinner - I'm not nearly the ogre they make me out to be. heh
Insomnia sucks and makes me unable to spell...what would I do without krs to point these things out to me??
[ edited by maddienicks on Apr 3, 2001 09:36 PM ]
posted on April 3, 2001 09:35:00 PM new
Two different troll ids at that same place. Long time since I used either one, and doubt I could get in since the passwords are long forgotten. heh
I HATE TYPOS! Grrrr...ok ok....ogre. Happy now? Dictionary.com has this definition: A person who is felt to be particularly cruel, brutish, or hideous. And I only fit that particular description for a few days a month....
posted on April 3, 2001 10:09:23 PM new
Spaz: I've got to disagree with your assesment of other forms. I personally resolved two personal 'problems' on boards such as the ones you mention.
Now, that doesn't mean I'm all kissy huggy with folks I've had problems with....but at least we both know where we stand. None of this, "Read between the lines and you will see the insult" CRAP. None of the, "Was that a shot?" CRAP. Just down and dirty, "What kind of dumb are you?" What I see as being formed was a truce of sorts.....a general sense that, sure XXX and YYY are probably flipping off their screens when they see my name on a thread (and vice versa), but neither party is going to derail a thread or cause a problem just for the sake of kicking the other one last time.
That kind of stuff won't happen here (sorry Kraft, it was a good idea) because of the nature and function of this form. However, that doesn't mean it never works. It does.
posted on April 3, 2001 10:32:35 PM new
Kraftdinner (Terry): A forum for all to hash it out will never work. Too many different personalites, with different agendas, or personal axes to grind.
But, as Jesse says, "Keep Hope Alive."
(where is net**what's his name when you need him?)
posted on April 3, 2001 10:46:04 PM new
Umm, fuzz, weren't you elsewhere recently warning someone you worked things out with not to bring up something that was supposedly resolved? Or was that not one of the two situations you referred to?
posted on April 3, 2001 10:52:03 PM new
Nope, wasn't one of the two situations I had in mind.
I'm not sure where you got the idea that the situation you are talking about was 'resolved'. Yeah, I've moved on but it isn't like it was edited from my memory. In case your memory doesn't go past yesterday, let me remind you I've got no problem defending myself if I feel the need to.
As for 'warning'.....I believe I said I didn't think either of us wanted to 'go there' again.
posted on April 4, 2001 12:17:00 AM newHepburn:"Borillar, I wouldnt mind having a Pina Colada with you, since I dont like the taste of beer. "
I don't know how pleasant company I'd be. I have very strong beliefs about religion and politics like most folks, although I am willing to listen to reason. Yet, I feel that the government has this set of responsibilities:
1) Provide for a National Defense
2) Promote Commerce and Fair Trade
3) Provide for the welfare of its citizens
and not necessarily in that order.
The State does not exist to serve itself, although any State is self-serving by nature. Corporations are not living, breathing things and the benefits afforded to Corporations should never outweigh those of the citizens. Therefore, I am angered by this President, his administration, and the members of Congress on both sides of the isle, for they have forgotten us. They exist only to serve themselves and the large corporations at the expense of the citizens of the United States of America. When a government no longer provides for the safety and benefit of its citizens, then it is time for the citizens to rise up and to change that government.
But we have tried. We have tried to get a third party into the fray, but the Corporate candidates will not participate in meaningful debates and the other party's voices are effectively snuffed out. We have seen that even should you go and vote, you may be illegally disqualified from voting or your vote is more likely thrown out for one reason or another than anyone ever believed could be possible. And now, if a political party wants to, they can use the force of courts to halt the counting of our votes. Clearly, we have tried Constitutional methods to make the necessary changes, but it too has been over-ridden by the corporate parties and their candidates.
And I do not think that third parties are the answer; as Ross Perot sold-out and backed up Bush on the Larry King Show. Remember that flap about how Gore also had large oil interests in his pocket? Ralph Nader has a large stake in oil as well! Ta Daa!
Short of the citizens of this country sticking their heads out the windows and shouting, "I'm mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore!" and getting up off their duffs and marching on Washington to place all the politicians under citizen's arrest and installing a new government of PATRIOTS who will straighten out our nation's laws into our favor once again, there is no hope.
And then, into this mind set comes Conservatives, who believe that being sold down the river by their own President is peachy-keen and that I ought to enjoy it all!
That then, Hepburn, is why I would be the most unpleasant company.
posted on April 4, 2001 12:22:47 AM new
Is anyone else noticing that the fonts on these pages are jumping back and forth between the normal AW font and pica type? Reloading the page seems to restore the original font, but why is it coming up pica in the first place?
posted on April 4, 2001 07:29:27 AM newmaddienicks - I'd never believe that about you. ogre. A person who is felt to be particularly cruel, brutish, or hideous. And I only fit that particular description for a few days a month In all the time I have read your posts, you have, not once, come across that way to me.
RM Probably a little of each. But it is hard to disagree privately when one wants to be anon here.
kraftdinner Wonderful concept, but it won't happen for many of the reasons others have shared.
posted on April 4, 2001 07:50:26 AM new
RM: That is the problem - posters who take on fantasty roles and have a difficulty in understanding that the sense of importance they derive from it is not real but rather pure fantasy as well. Putting down someone else and trying to make that person feel inferior doesn't make a poster important/superior - it just makes them a bully.
Linda: I don't see it either - only seems to make for a lot of unhappy posters.
posted on April 4, 2001 08:01:32 AM new
hi stockticker and Badu!
that was the one part about Gladiator I didn't enjoy, the constant brutal violence, it might be theatrical, but ....
maybe the 'bullying' makes up for a lack of power in their real offline lives. Also I think sometimes board bullies just enjoy being bullies 'cause it gives 'em a little rush.
posted on April 4, 2001 08:11:20 AM new
Gladiator (the movie) was of course just a movie. A fantasy acted out by professionals in front of a camera for entertainment purposes. No one actually got killed or anything. (I hope) BUT at one time, Gladiators DID actually exist in reality and they DID actually kill each other for the entertainment of an audiance.
These "hash it out" sessions in public forums could be considered a modern version. Although, I'm not sure how much "bloody pulp" is actually created as a consequence of all those exploding computer monitors and resulting high velocity glass fragments.
[ edited by RM on Apr 4, 2001 08:51 AM ]
posted on April 4, 2001 09:19:15 AM new
Borillar, having a pina colada together means just that. Sipping, enjoying the smooth jazz, watching the sunset and talking about calming things. Want me to put tape over your mouth and mine too? It can be arranged.
posted on April 4, 2001 11:07:12 AM newCyber blood may not drip on the carpet but it sure does seem to leave a lot of real emotional wounds.
Some people create online identies which are just as real to them, or in certain cases more real to them, than their real life persona. They do all their socializing here, create what they believe are genuine friendships here, share their happiness and grief in these forums ...
Yet some still insist that what happens here is a game. I think that's where a lot of the conflicts are born, and why they turn so mean. On one hand you have someone who thinks none of it matters and says anything he/she pleases, while on the other you have someone who feels publicly and personally attacked and lashes out in defense. The gameplayers keep taunting, the victims keep fighting back ... the allies of both sides get involved ...and the number of site hits takes off ...
Of course, there are other scenarios -- for example, in which two gameplayers have a go at each other out of boredom. These however are usually not as knock-down-drag-out as the latter type.
posted on April 4, 2001 11:30:42 AM new
Oh, it may not be my cup of tea, but I don't mind it when ONLY game players CHOOSE to bash it out. I don't understand though, when the two sides are obviously unequal in numbers, why some choose not to back away to make it a fair fight.
posted on April 4, 2001 11:38:04 AM newI don't understand though, when the two sides are obviously unequal in numbers, why some choose not to back away to make it a fair fight.
I sometimes forget that you live in a British country.
Dictionary.com has this definition: A person who is felt to be particularly cruel, brutish, or hideous. And I only fit that particular description for a few days a month....